Posted On: Tuesday - November 18th 2025 8:46PM MST
In Topics: Immigration Stupidity US Feral Government So-called Pope Francis
These A v B themes and titles of our posts started early on in the post Nat-Geo and the once great Royal Scientific Societies - Part 2. This set of books my young boy was into at the time used this theme, such as with "Octopus vs. Spiny Dogfish Shark" to teach fun facts about various wild and crazy animals. There were even brackets for these imagined contests, as if it were the NCAA basketball playoffs.
That's what we've been thinking of with these type post titles over they years, but I think I'll change the theme to be more of a legal court case thing. We'll use italics then, so this post is Hogan v Vatican et al. (Both lawyers and doctors like Latin - sets them apart from the peons - though they have their legitimate reasons, errr sine qua non, on occasion to use them.)
Along with Trump's Staff General Steven Miller (there back during -45 too), Peak Stupidity has been pleased with the choice of Tom Hogan as the Field General. The recent ZeroHedge* post "Catholic Church Is Wrong" On Illegal Immigration, Homan Says has done nothing to disabuse me of this feeling. Entered into the court record: Tom Hogan is Catholic himself.
Though we are no big fans of cops in general ourselves, we do appreciate Tom Hogan's having been one and doing his job in the Deportation Nation effort as one. I like this:
“Secure border saves lives. I wish the Catholic Church would understand that. We have the right to secure our borders like they have the right to secure their facility,” Homan said.[ZH's bolding, which I appreciate.] It's that use of "facility" that struck me. Some might call it the Holy City or Holy something-or-other, but to this cop it's just a facility. (I don't know if they allow early release.) Facility is just cop talk, like "The individual was traveling southbound at a high rate of speed, your Honor."**
“You can’t enter their facility without getting arrested. Matter of fact, the penalties for entering their facilities are much worse than ours,” he said.
It's kinda like how Alcatraz is called The Rock, or something...
Of course, Mr. Homan was making the analogy of breaking into a country being like breaking into The Vatican. I imagine there are some guards there. We didn't bother visiting that facility (heh!) when in Rome*** in Summer '19, cause... Commie Pope. (That attitude has not changed one bit since.) I doubt they'd have let us just saunter on into The Vatican either without some ticket or pass. They'd have flat-out deported us. That term's not really facetious here either, as it IS a separate country.
“So the Catholic Church is wrong. I’m sorry. I’m a lifelong Catholic. I’m saying it as not only a border czar. I'll say it as a Catholic. I think they need to spend time fixing the Catholic Church.”Very good. The Catholic Church supported Christianity in the West a whole lot more during the Middle Ages, even with the indulgences and Borgia Pope orgies. They didn't select Liberation Theology style Commies as so-called Popes, and TWO IN A ROW, even!
Homan’s remarks were in response to a “special message” issued on Nov. 12 by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) saying the group was “disturbed” by the climate of fear and anxiety regarding questions of profiling and immigration enforcement among the church’s followers.The message was, per ZeroHedge:
USCCB said it opposes the “indiscriminate mass deportation” of people and prays for ending the “dehumanizing rhetoric and violence” aimed at illegal immigrants and law enforcement personnel.I am very sure that, by"law enforcement personel", they don't mean ICE, here They mean the cops that are committing crimes by harboring illegal aliens from The Law.
The article said that the last time the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops issued a Special Message was a dozen years ago. This was not a Papal Bull - it was some Bishop Bull, agreed on by 216 of the 221 Bishops voting to send it. The Bishops are saddened.
“We are saddened by the state of contemporary debate and the vilification of immigrants. We are concerned about the conditions in detention centers and the lack of access to pastoral care. We lament that some immigrants in the United States have arbitrarily lost their legal status,” it said.I know. I hate that! I know there are plenty of guys wanted for armed robbery who have to worry every single day about being detained when they are just bringing their kids to school. Families have been split apart based on felonies like that! It's egregious, oh, and while I'm at it, it's "aggrieved", not "grieved", dumbass Bishops. What IS it with the Catholic Church and its complicity in the Population Replacement Programme? It was so much better when its Popes just had big orgies and threatened Kings.
“We are troubled by threats against the sanctity of houses of worship and the special nature of hospitals and schools. We are grieved when we meet parents who fear being detained when taking their children to school and when we try to console family members who have already been separated from their loved ones.”
I can't excerpt all of Homan's great arguments to these "grieved" Bishops. He's pretty good. He's not perfect though. His arguments go on about how many thousands of invaders have died on the way in. I get that this is to throw the Bishop's accusations back at them, but, hey, honestly I don't care a lick how many invaders of the US die.. Don't invade, and you won't die.
I mean, I don't guarantee immortality... anyway, to continue, Mr. Homan then brought up the 100's of thousands of American deaths due to Fentanyl. We've written this before on this blog, screw the Fentanyl! That's not what this Job #1 is about. I'm sorry for the drug addicts, really, and they ARE Americans, but this argument is not any better than the UK/Irish Patriots' arguments regarding their millions of foreign invaders that consist of MOAR vetting!".
I'd like to see Tom Homan be just a tad more honest, but perhaps that would be going away from his being a high-level cop. "How'd you like it if all you Catholics in the Vatican City were swamped with violent Moslems, and OUR Conference of US Peons sent you a message that we were disturbed by the climate of fear and anxiety among the Bishops all in there?****" is what I'd have LIKED to hear.
If you read on in that article, you'll get to a section entitled USCCB Lawsuit. Under there, we read:
In February, USCCB filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration for halting the funding of its refugee resettlement program.Ahhaaaaa! [My bolding] The Bishops are making big money by trafficking, yes, trafficking in "refugees"! They have a big vested interest in seeing big numbers of non-White foreigners come into the US. "Don't like your daughters getting raped? Fuck you, pay me!" "Your nice leafy neighborhood just went to hell? Fuck you, pay me!" "Got Haitians and Somalians eating the cats and dogs? Fuck you, pay me!" These guys are Italian, right? They're gonna make the Mafia look like pikers.
Under the program, USCCB facilitated the integration of refugees into the United States. The refugees were entitled to receive federal funds as transitional support for up to 90 days, which the complaint said was essential to helping them set up a new home.
When the Trump administration suspended the program in January, there were more than 6,700 refugees assigned to USSCB by the government who were still within their 90-day transition period, the lawsuit said.
The suspension resulted in USCCB having “millions of dollars in pending, unpaid reimbursements for services already rendered to refugees and is accruing millions more each week—with no indication that any future reimbursements will be paid or that the program will ever resume,” it said.
I get it now. The US Conference of Bishops are running a trafficking scam for money to support their facility there in Rome. They no longer even try to get the band back together or anything like that in order to be able to pay the Cook County Assessor. These people are not (only) stupid. They are greedy, and hence they are evil.
Thank you, Tom Homan, for calling out this greedy, evil Conference of Bishops! In Hogan v Vatican et al, the Peak Stupidity Superior Court rules in favor of Mr. Hogan with extreme prejudice.
* It came from The Epoch Times, written by one Naveen Athrappully.
** There's a scene in Idiocracy in which director Mike Judge makes fun of cops in this manner. My problem is the use of terms erroneously. No, speed is already a rate, and he doesn't mean acceleration. Southbound is the term for the general directionality of the lane, not the actual direction. How about "He was headed south and speeding", or "He was speeding in the southbound lane."
*** "When in Rome, do as the Romans do.", they say, but yeah, Roman residents likely don't visit unless their relatives come to town, from, like, Greece, just as people who live in big cities don't go to the museums until their friends visit.
**** Peak Stupidity told an anecdote of a Chicago preacher haranguing Americans in this manner - Dr. Kevin Vanhoozer, Globalist Pro-Invasion Pastor.
Comments:
Moderator
Thursday - November 20th 2025 7:14AM MST
PS: "That is, the actual subject matter is not used, and so is forgotten, but wait…the brain’s general-purpose wiring has been improved." Agreed.
SafeNow
Wednesday - November 19th 2025 2:49PM MST
PS
You know, SafeNow, I took 2 full years of Latin. That was a long time ago, and "Use it or lose it" - Mr. Moderator
I will be optimistic and argue that what they say about algebra and geometry also applies to studying Latin. That is, the actual subject matter is not used, and so is forgotten, but wait…the brain’s general-purpose wiring has been improved.
You know, SafeNow, I took 2 full years of Latin. That was a long time ago, and "Use it or lose it" - Mr. Moderator
I will be optimistic and argue that what they say about algebra and geometry also applies to studying Latin. That is, the actual subject matter is not used, and so is forgotten, but wait…the brain’s general-purpose wiring has been improved.
Moderator
Wednesday - November 19th 2025 5:36AM MST
PS: Good morning, Alarmist.
Yeah, Chicago, Illinois or Chiclayo, Peru, to-may-tow, to-mah-tow, let's call the whole thing off. Yes, seriously, let's call the whole thing off.
Leo spend 1/3 to 1/2 of his adult life getting steeped in that Liberation Theology down in Peru. Anti-pope is right.
Yeah, Chicago, Illinois or Chiclayo, Peru, to-may-tow, to-mah-tow, let's call the whole thing off. Yes, seriously, let's call the whole thing off.
Leo spend 1/3 to 1/2 of his adult life getting steeped in that Liberation Theology down in Peru. Anti-pope is right.
Moderator
Wednesday - November 19th 2025 5:34AM MST
PS: You know, SafeNow, I took 2 full years of Latin. That was a long time ago, and "Use it or lose it", they say, with languages. I should hang out with MOAR Latin Americans.. or something.
William Buckley had a good command of languages, that's for sure. Too bad he didn't have a good command of Conservative principles.
William Buckley had a good command of languages, that's for sure. Too bad he didn't have a good command of Conservative principles.
The Alarmist
Wednesday - November 19th 2025 4:29AM MST
PS
The Catholic Church has been wrong on many things since Vatican 2.
And that anti-Pope from Chicago is about as fallible as one can be.
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The Catholic Church has been wrong on many things since Vatican 2.
And that anti-Pope from Chicago is about as fallible as one can be.
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SafeNow
Tuesday - November 18th 2025 10:03PM MST
PS
“I doubt they'd have let us just saunter on into The Vatican either without some ticket”
Sorry, Mr. Moderator, but….
Quod licit Jovi non licet bovi.
(That which is permitted for Jove to do is not permitted for a cow to do )
(Back in the day, William Buckley used to go around smirkily saying that phrase when he simply wanted to say that a double standard was in effect. This was condescending, because he was bragging ... Latin sets them apart, as Mr. Moderator says. But on the plus side, he was doing a parody of Latin, showing that Latin phrases can be ridiculous.)
“I doubt they'd have let us just saunter on into The Vatican either without some ticket”
Sorry, Mr. Moderator, but….
Quod licit Jovi non licet bovi.
(That which is permitted for Jove to do is not permitted for a cow to do )
(Back in the day, William Buckley used to go around smirkily saying that phrase when he simply wanted to say that a double standard was in effect. This was condescending, because he was bragging ... Latin sets them apart, as Mr. Moderator says. But on the plus side, he was doing a parody of Latin, showing that Latin phrases can be ridiculous.)