Posted On: Wednesday - September 17th 2025 6:47PM MST
In Topics: History Liberty/Libertarianism Guns
Again, accepting policy advice from some old suspense/horror novel writer is... unsound. We just put this graphic up because we did a quick search in a hurry.
There have been attempts to blame the guns for mass shootings of all sorts since I've been paying attention and the shooting have apparently* been on the rise. The gun controllers haven't gotten very far though. Trending: Constitutional Carry, bitchez! We're up to I believe over half the States having this common sense gun policy as of recently (S. Carolina). Will the gun controllers try to push it hard after this assassination?
Steve Sailer has done a nice job with his "point of use" vs. "point of sale" gun control comparison.** ( His point is, principles aside because he's like that, if we could frisk and confiscate guns from inner city "youts"***, we'd do a lot more good keeping people from being shot than doing all the gun control on White people (because the youts often have stolen guns) at the stores and gun shows. That's true. I just told my wife - she's NEVER heard this one! - if guns are outlawed, only outlaws would have guns.
As far as the details of gun control efforts and those efforts by supporters of liberty, it may take a whole month, counting bathroom breaks but not much else, but one couldn't go wrong by going through all the videos Unz Review commenter Joe Stalin has embedded in the iSteve threads. (That link will get you to them.)
We can go back to the 1930s when auto-fire machine guns were regulated. That was a very early effort, I assume boosted by mob violence, said mobs having gotten their monetary support from people getting trying to get around Constitutional Amendment XVIII. Let's move to more recent history...
There were 3 assassinations of very famous people in Government and race-mongering within 5 years**** in the 1960s. There were efforts to introduce gun control bills right after the 1st Kennedy got shot, but they didn't make it far. That was the America of the early 60s. They kept on pushing, and the Martin King and Bobby Kennedy assassinations were a big help for these anti-freedom folks. One can see a timeline of gun laws here on the ThoughCo site, and it's easy to see that the 1968 gun control act was THE BIGGIE (from wiki):
On June 11, 1968, a tie vote in the House Judiciary Committee halted the bill's passage. On reconsideration nine days later, the bill was passed by the committee. The Senate Judiciary Committee similarly brought the bill to a temporary halt, but as in the House, it was passed on reconsideration. House Resolution 17735, known as the Gun Control Act, was signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson on October 22, 1968.There was a lot to this Act, including:
... banning mail-order sales of rifles and shotguns and prohibiting most felons, drug users, and people found mentally incompetent from buying guns. This act also included provisions that redefined the definitions of firearms within the United States and provided more rules for weapons manufacturers and licensed sellers on interstate commerce of ammunition and other firearm accessories.The next big step was the creation of the ATF, now BATF for Bureau, sometimes BATFE or ATFE, with an added Explosives department. (It DOES sound like a big box store.) That happened in 1972.
We all might remember the "assault weapons" ban of '94 signed by President Clinton. The D's controlled 53% of the Senate and just under 60% of the House at the time. Someone was able to stick in a 10 year "sunset" provision, and it sure enough went out into the sunset to die in '04.
There were a number of Federal Gun Control laws were passed right on through the mid-'90s. That period was a true turning point though. It's been 3 decades since then with gun control being such a "Boomer" thing that, well, anyone under 35 would not have heard very much, unless he watches tweets of your old hardcore Pelosis and such.
Will this be cranked up again after this most-widely-followed assassination of Charlie Kirk? I mean, just before this, some lady got killed on a train too!... oh, wait, with a pocket knife. (Even going all you-kay with that knife control stupidity, I don't think pocket knives count, do they?)
You will see some efforts, but I think they will get nowhere this time around. Why?
Even though gun ownership was much easier, relaxed, freer - I mean mail order! - back before the 1968 law, gun ownership has kept on climbing for decades now. Part of it is that Conservatives got organized and slowly pushed back in the way the ctrl-left does on other issues. There's also the black violence angle. it may be lower than during the crack era - Mr. Sailer has all the stats - but it's always too damn high! More people are buying and more people are carrying for self-defense reasons. Then the prepper movement has got lots of errr, us, stocking up. We've mostly got enough. (No, never! MOAR .223, MOAR 9mm! - Ed.)
In the case of the killing of Charlie Kirk, the whole feeling is different than in that old more united America of 60 years back. Rather than all Americans thinking we've got to stop the violence from those guns, both sides of the big cultural war divide are thinking there may be violence, so we really might need them for more than defense against thugs. We need more guns, not fewer, on our side, at least.
Let's hope Conservatives have so much firepower and political power that the ctrl-left won't push it to more violence. Attempts to disarm us will, I think and hope, get nowhere this time around.
* There are stats, I'm sure, and the Regime Media would push this narrative. However, my gut feeling tells me there have been more school shootings as of the last few years... hey, at least by trannies... They didn't used to do that, because they didn't used to BE.
** I happen to have Mr. Sailer's book Noticing right next to me as I write. In his chapter The Geography of Homocide, I figured he might have this line in there. Nope, but he did write about gun control for on paragraph on p. 377. I liked this: "There's much discussion in the respectable [sic] press about legal gun purchases as being the cause (rather than, more likely, the effect) of the historic increase in shootings." I like that one.
*** Anybody else enjoy My Cousin Vinny? They say that the movie does such a good job with the courtroom procedures that law schools like students to watch it. "They" are people on the internet.
**** I remembered that JFK got shot in late November of '63 and MLK, April 4th of '68 (from the song), and then I knew Robert Kennedy (Sr.) got shot during the midst of the D-party primary campaign of '68 - it was June 5th.
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Moderator
Thursday - September 18th 2025 11:02AM MST
PS: I appreciate the fun stuff this morning, Adam. I haven't read all the grenade news yet, but I am glad that Thomas the Train knife sets can still be bought without ID.
Adam Smith
Thursday - September 18th 2025 10:44AM MST
PS: Soldiers plead guilty in explosives case
Three sentenced to probation as first offenders
https://www.dawsonnews.com/local/crimecourts/soldiers-plead-guilty-in-explosives-case/
Boys will be boys... ☮️
Three sentenced to probation as first offenders
https://www.dawsonnews.com/local/crimecourts/soldiers-plead-guilty-in-explosives-case/
Boys will be boys... ☮️
Adam Smith
Thursday - September 18th 2025 10:37AM MST
PS: When hand grenades are outlawed only outlaws will have hand grenades...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MwplKjk_O0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MwplKjk_O0
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Adam Smith
Thursday - September 18th 2025 10:33AM MST
PS: Good afternoon, gentlemen...
𝐸𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑦𝑜𝑢-𝑘𝑎𝑦 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑘𝑛𝑖𝑓𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑝𝑖𝑑𝑖𝑡𝑦, 𝐼 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝑝𝑜𝑐𝑘𝑒𝑡 𝑘𝑛𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡, 𝑑𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦?
https://i.ibb.co/4Zr4bfYQ/No-ID.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/N6BFwMZ7/gps.jpg
𝐿𝑒𝑡’𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑣𝑖𝑜𝑙𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑆𝑤𝑒𝑑𝑒𝑛...
(Reminded me of this...)
https://archive.is/cj0ff
https://www.dawsonnews.com/local/crimecourts/soldiers-arrested-after-attack-on-crowd/
https://www.audacy.com/connectingvets/articles/soldier-assigned-to-ranger-school-arrested-with-explosives
Boys will be boys... ☮️
𝐸𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑔𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑦𝑜𝑢-𝑘𝑎𝑦 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑘𝑛𝑖𝑓𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙 𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑝𝑖𝑑𝑖𝑡𝑦, 𝐼 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 𝑝𝑜𝑐𝑘𝑒𝑡 𝑘𝑛𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑠 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡, 𝑑𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦?
https://i.ibb.co/4Zr4bfYQ/No-ID.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/N6BFwMZ7/gps.jpg
𝐿𝑒𝑡’𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑡𝑎𝑙𝑘 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑛𝑎𝑑𝑒 𝑣𝑖𝑜𝑙𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑆𝑤𝑒𝑑𝑒𝑛...
(Reminded me of this...)
https://archive.is/cj0ff
https://www.dawsonnews.com/local/crimecourts/soldiers-arrested-after-attack-on-crowd/
https://www.audacy.com/connectingvets/articles/soldier-assigned-to-ranger-school-arrested-with-explosives
Boys will be boys... ☮️
The Daily Stupid
Thursday - September 18th 2025 10:26AM MST
PS: Jimmy Kimmel Fired. Gays Hit Hardest!
https://www.out.com/voices/jimmy-kimmel-charlie-kirk-queer-roar
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https://www.out.com/voices/jimmy-kimmel-charlie-kirk-queer-roar
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Moderator
Thursday - September 18th 2025 9:12AM MST
PS: Hello, Alarmist. Old Blighty, huh? I was thinking about getting into estimating the crowd size from some picture embedded in TUR thread (Sailer, #11) by one YetAnotherAnon. He lives there. The trick would be to get a good enough resolution picture to count heads in a square. (The ones he showed weren't good enough - you'd have to match up others that were taken closer up from the same location.) Then see how many of those squares there are, going up all the different boulevards, squares, whatever. I think one can assume the the density is fairly consistent.
That was A LOT of people.
"BTW, let’s not talk about grenade violence in Sweden (yeah, it’s a thing)." Yes, I've written about it on one occassion. But... if they would just pass a law about grenades - could probably be done in a few days, were those pesky far-right people cooperative - and then it would all stop. Right? I mean, right?
"When grenades are outlawed, only violent Moslem immigrants will have grenades."
That was A LOT of people.
"BTW, let’s not talk about grenade violence in Sweden (yeah, it’s a thing)." Yes, I've written about it on one occassion. But... if they would just pass a law about grenades - could probably be done in a few days, were those pesky far-right people cooperative - and then it would all stop. Right? I mean, right?
"When grenades are outlawed, only violent Moslem immigrants will have grenades."
The Alarmist
Thursday - September 18th 2025 3:04AM MST
PS
I spoke too soon ... it just crossed the tape that two people were shot in a London Park. I’m stunned and shocked to hear that gun bans don’t actually stop gun violence even outside the violent USA. BTW, let’s not talk about grenade violence in Sweden (yeah, it’s a thing).
BTW, I had a colleague who went to HS with Marissa Tomei ... couldn’t get the introduction though.
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I spoke too soon ... it just crossed the tape that two people were shot in a London Park. I’m stunned and shocked to hear that gun bans don’t actually stop gun violence even outside the violent USA. BTW, let’s not talk about grenade violence in Sweden (yeah, it’s a thing).
BTW, I had a colleague who went to HS with Marissa Tomei ... couldn’t get the introduction though.
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The Alarmist
Thursday - September 18th 2025 2:35AM MST
PS
Fun to be in “gun free” London the past couple of days, with all thirty or so Limeys flying their tiny Trump-baby ballons to protest the OBM and complaining about how we are abusing the “special relationship.”
The good thing about the coverage of the tens-strong protests is that it keeps the stabby & machete fight stories out of the headlines.
Meanwhile, the Brit MSM keeps trying to hold the line that the two or three million person march last saturday was really only 110k strong.
After TPTB take all the guns, then they need to take all the knives... then bottles ..l then glassware,.. then mean online posts, all of which have been used as offensive weapons in Blighty.
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Fun to be in “gun free” London the past couple of days, with all thirty or so Limeys flying their tiny Trump-baby ballons to protest the OBM and complaining about how we are abusing the “special relationship.”
The good thing about the coverage of the tens-strong protests is that it keeps the stabby & machete fight stories out of the headlines.
Meanwhile, the Brit MSM keeps trying to hold the line that the two or three million person march last saturday was really only 110k strong.
After TPTB take all the guns, then they need to take all the knives... then bottles ..l then glassware,.. then mean online posts, all of which have been used as offensive weapons in Blighty.
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Marisa Tomei’s character, on the stand, in the fantastic courtroom scene of My Cousin Vinny:
“There’s Maw!!”
“They…wuh!!”
What a girlfriend she would be. Well, maybe not, as I would not be so fond of the big picture. But I would sure be fond of bits like these.