Posted On: Friday - July 25th 2025 8:35PM MST
In Topics: Globalists Liberty/Libertarianism World Political Stupidity
I first read this or saw this meme at least 25 years ago. The wolves are the Totalitarians, and the sheep are the general population. The patriot Constitutionalist types on the internet would note this and add that our system must have the sheep dogs too. Those would be said patriots who still are guided by the Constitution of this Republic, bear arms, and would do our job to gather and protect the sheep to keep them safe from the wolves. Unfortunately at this point, we aren't too enamored with most of the sheep. We'd be glad for the wolves to eat some of our sheep, but then the wolves don't seem very discriminatory. The wolves here are so bold that think they will eat all the sheep and us sheep dogs too. We'll see...
OK, that's here, but this post is about Germany. How does that cartoon making fun of sacred Democracy work for that nation? We bring this up due to our continual reading of the screwage by the rest of the German government of the AfD (Alternative for Germany - It's nice that the initials hold up in translation.) The AfD is the only party that's serious about stopping the PRP (Population Replacement Progamme) and somehow working back towards a Germany for Germans.
I had an article in a tab somewhere that had gotten me started with this post, but I've lost it. It happens that Mr. Steve Sailer wrote something on this very subject a week ago, and he usually writes concisely with a very clear head and sums things up nicely. Alas, that post is paywalled. Since I'm pretty sure I got on this thought process due to a ZeroHedge article, I can refer the reader to this year-old post (from the web archive) Germany Moves Closer To AfD Ban, Green Claims Party Is "Security Risk For People & Democracy. The title alone describes the nonsense that a party may have to go through in this "Democratic" system. Why "may" they have to? They may if they go against the prevailing narrative and needs of the Government in general, one that is infested through and through by Globalist scum.
Most Western European countries have that same Parliamentary system, often cumbersome, but Germany's Constitution is more, as they say, problematic, due to 80 year ago history. Here's the official story:
Conditions for banning a political party:Some details follow. Somewhere, from what I've read, the Nazis, Commies, and Socialists are explicitly banned, though I'm not sure that's been followed at all regarding the latter.
A party may be banned only if it not only takes an anti-constitutional attitude but aims to act on that attitude in a militant and aggressive way. For a political party to be banned, it is therefore not sufficient that they challenge, refuse to recognise [sic[ or reject the supreme values of our constitution or try to replace them with other values. Instead, the political party concerned must be out to deliberately undermine the functioning of Germany’s free democratic basic order. This presupposes that there must be specific and valid evidence suggesting that there is at least a possibility of the party’s activities being successful.
Unlike the explicit limits on the Fed Gov power that were followed for most of America's history, who is ALLOWED to run for election in Germany is proscribed but open to interpretation. "Rejecting the supreme values of our Constitution... " Are these spelled out in there? Hey, I checked myself, and NO, they aren't. The damn thing is 138 pages long, and ctrl-f "human va.." or "values" gets no matches. I've skimmed just a bit, and I see how "rights" are specified but then limited afterwards in very vague language. Just an example:
Article 9 [Freedom of association]WTH is this "international understanding" baloney? There's too much of this weasel wording. Let's get to Article 20, on political parties.* (BTW, I did ctrl-f for "Nazi" and did not get to those explicit bans I've read about. I'll have to look into that more.)
(1) All Germans shall have the right to form societies and other associations.
(2) Associations whose aims or activities contravene the
criminal laws or that are directed against the constitutional order or the concept of international understanding shall be prohibited
Article 21 [Political parties](2) is the dooozy. (4) specifies who rules on whether some party, such as the AfD "seeks to undermine or abolish the free democratic basic order or to endanger the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany".
(1) Political parties shall participate in the formation of the political will of the people. They may be freely established. Their internal organisation must conform to democratic principles. They must publicly account for their assets and for the sources and use of their funds.
(2) Parties that, by reason of their aims or the behaviour [sic] of their adherents, seek to undermine or abolish the free democratic basic order or to endanger the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany shall be unconstitutional.
(3) Parties that, by reason of their aims or the behaviour [sic] of their adherents, are oriented towards an undermining or abolition of the free democratic basic order or an endangerment of the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany shall be excluded from state financing. If such exclusion is determined, any favourable [sic] fiscal treatment of these parties and of payments made to those parties shall cease.
(4) The Federal Constitutional Court shall rule on the question of unconstitutionality within the meaning of paragraph (2) of this Article and on exclusion from state financing within the meaning of paragraph (3).
(5) Details shall be regulated by federal laws.
Yeah, that's a neat trick. If the Government in place runs that Fed Constitutional Court, and it doesn't want any more Democracy than it's already got, it can rule, quite rightly, that this other party endangers the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany as it stands at the time. They've already got Democracy, see, and this new upstart party may change the whole country of Germany, hence endanger this Democracy.
Right now the German government is run by Globalists and for Globalists. They have no problem with the PRP. The AfD, with a quarter of Germans overtly supporting them, wants to stop the PRP and keep Germany for Germans. However, at this point, the Globalists in power in the other parties can gang up against the AfD and, if the AfD gets big enough to be a threat to them all as a bloc, they can get the Constitutional Court to rule on said threat under Article 21-(2). Quite clearly, the AfD is most definitely undermining their Globalist plans and endangering the existence of Germany as it stands now.
It's great! Everybody gets to start a political party, but if your party gets enough votes to endanger the other parties, it must be banned and you can no longer vote for them. Man, that's some catch, that Catch-21 ... section (2)!
Back to that saying and meme at the top, how would that go for Germany? The system is not personal direct democracy, so we see wolf packs rather than lone wolves. It's so very German, wulf packs! The wolf packs get to vote on exactly how to fleece the sheep and maybe eat them to avoid having to eat zee bugs. However, they also get to vote on which wolf packs are banned from the country, and sheepdogs, hell, they have no place in Germany. As an American, I say Focke Wulf packs!
* Our Founders didn't even like the IDEA of political parties, but they, even GW did, early on that they would come to pass. They didn't specify anything about them. The deal was that the people and the States could do whatever they wanted, minus the few exceptions for Federal power specified therein.
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Adam Smith
Sunday - July 27th 2025 8:37AM MST
PS: Well, this seems on topic...
SPD state parliament vice president resigns after swastika scandal...
https://tinyurl.com/bde37vtz
Happy Sunday! ☮️
SPD state parliament vice president resigns after swastika scandal...
https://tinyurl.com/bde37vtz
Happy Sunday! ☮️
Adam Smith
Saturday - July 26th 2025 9:54PM MST
PS: Greetings and salutations, everyone!
(Getting sleepy, so please excuse my paraphrasing...)
Something, something, Sheep dog...
As you know, I'm more of a cat person than I am a dog person. But that doesn't mean I'm 𝑛𝑜𝑡 a dog person. One of my favorite breeds it the Great Pyrenees...
https://i.ibb.co/MDZPmp5Y/Pyrenees.jpg
Great dogs, if you can get past the hair and the slobber...
Also... I don't believe in democracy.
(In a democracy, all you get is Kentucky lobster.)
Happy Sunday Morning! ☮️
(Getting sleepy, so please excuse my paraphrasing...)
Something, something, Sheep dog...
As you know, I'm more of a cat person than I am a dog person. But that doesn't mean I'm 𝑛𝑜𝑡 a dog person. One of my favorite breeds it the Great Pyrenees...
https://i.ibb.co/MDZPmp5Y/Pyrenees.jpg
Great dogs, if you can get past the hair and the slobber...
Also... I don't believe in democracy.
(In a democracy, all you get is Kentucky lobster.)
Happy Sunday Morning! ☮️
Moderator
Saturday - July 26th 2025 7:03PM MST
PS: Along with Mr. Hail's new post, I will read Euggyppias' post later on. I should link to it in this post, from what I read in the intro. Thanks, Alarmist.
I'll check your post out, Mr. Hail. Thank you for getting back to it!
"It's not the case that they're only trying to ban AfD because AfD got successful, although obviously that's worrying to them. It's rather just a kind of civic ritual for the righteous citizens of Germany to consider banning aright-wing political parties."
Yes, I didn't mean ANY successful party, as if they can all get along, divvy up the Socialist goodies, and keep on track for the Globalist's plan, sure, let 'em get some seats. However, since right-wing means patriotic in support of Germany for Germans, as I guess it always has, yeah, AfD has got to go, but it'd be fine if they'd been getting only 5-10% of the votes and NO seats. They've gotten uppity and want to actual have power. That's a big no-no.
I'll check your post out, Mr. Hail. Thank you for getting back to it!
"It's not the case that they're only trying to ban AfD because AfD got successful, although obviously that's worrying to them. It's rather just a kind of civic ritual for the righteous citizens of Germany to consider banning aright-wing political parties."
Yes, I didn't mean ANY successful party, as if they can all get along, divvy up the Socialist goodies, and keep on track for the Globalist's plan, sure, let 'em get some seats. However, since right-wing means patriotic in support of Germany for Germans, as I guess it always has, yeah, AfD has got to go, but it'd be fine if they'd been getting only 5-10% of the votes and NO seats. They've gotten uppity and want to actual have power. That's a big no-no.
Moderator
Saturday - July 26th 2025 6:57PM MST
PS: I too like geography, SafeNow. Yes, comparing that split in Germany to the US shows that instead of the western portion, we have slivers on the very northeast and the west, and then the same urban centers that the ctrl-left, well controls. That's somewhat similar, except the German map - and nice job with it, whomever! - shows that the East could split off again and make quite a few people happy. Imagine having to climb over some wall to get from your urban center to The East! We are more mixed up, it looks to me... but still that urban/rural divide, though not as strong in Germany. (That may be due to the multiple parties there, though, not just 2.)
Lawfare and rule of judges is one thing. What will the Big Beer be, SafeNow? In Germany, the Constitution says that if they have the votes, the other parties can ban the AfD via decisions of judges. Here, they can't do that, but they are trying all else, also rule via judges, but only one Trump edict at a time. Well, they nullify laws too. The most egregious of all time may have been the one California judge's nullification of the referendum voted on directly by the people regarding tolerance of illegal aliens back in the 90s. Talk about one wolf voting on what's for dinner!
Lawfare and rule of judges is one thing. What will the Big Beer be, SafeNow? In Germany, the Constitution says that if they have the votes, the other parties can ban the AfD via decisions of judges. Here, they can't do that, but they are trying all else, also rule via judges, but only one Trump edict at a time. Well, they nullify laws too. The most egregious of all time may have been the one California judge's nullification of the referendum voted on directly by the people regarding tolerance of illegal aliens back in the 90s. Talk about one wolf voting on what's for dinner!
Hail
Saturday - July 26th 2025 2:31PM MST
PS
There is nothing new about the move to try to ban the AfD party. These moves to ban right-wing parties are regular features of the German news-cycles, many examples in the 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s.
It's not the case that they're only trying to ban AfD because AfD got successful, although obviously that's worrying to them. It's rather just a kind of civic ritual for the righteous citizens of Germany to consider banning aright-wing political parties.
In one case, I think the attempted ban process was nullified by a judge because it came out that lots of the basis for the ban of a former party, the NPD, had come from agents-provocateur, intelligence agents inserted into the party; which was illegal, and immoral, and undermined the basis od the attempted ban. (It helps very much to have an independent judiciary in cases like that.)
There is nothing new about the move to try to ban the AfD party. These moves to ban right-wing parties are regular features of the German news-cycles, many examples in the 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s.
It's not the case that they're only trying to ban AfD because AfD got successful, although obviously that's worrying to them. It's rather just a kind of civic ritual for the righteous citizens of Germany to consider banning aright-wing political parties.
In one case, I think the attempted ban process was nullified by a judge because it came out that lots of the basis for the ban of a former party, the NPD, had come from agents-provocateur, intelligence agents inserted into the party; which was illegal, and immoral, and undermined the basis od the attempted ban. (It helps very much to have an independent judiciary in cases like that.)
Hail
Saturday - July 26th 2025 2:26PM MST
PS
Adapted from comments made here some days ago:
https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2025/07/26/evaluating-trump-ii-at-its-six-month-mark-do-they-really-believe-in-or-want-immigration-restrictionism/
Adapted from comments made here some days ago:
https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2025/07/26/evaluating-trump-ii-at-its-six-month-mark-do-they-really-believe-in-or-want-immigration-restrictionism/
The Alarmist
Saturday - July 26th 2025 5:45AM MST
PS
Demokratie in DL is one wolf sitting down with three sheep to decide what’s for dinner, finding some way to marginalize or compromise the franchise of one, and outright disqualifying the stronger sheep, and then having all three for dinner.
I think Eugyppius is on to this:
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/the-social-democrats-are-plotting
☯️
Demokratie in DL is one wolf sitting down with three sheep to decide what’s for dinner, finding some way to marginalize or compromise the franchise of one, and outright disqualifying the stronger sheep, and then having all three for dinner.
I think Eugyppius is on to this:
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/the-social-democrats-are-plotting
☯️
SafeNow
Friday - July 25th 2025 10:01PM MST
PS
I will try to build upon this fine essay, which deals largely with political maneuvering. As a geography nerd, I am interested in studying a map showing WHERE the AfD’s support lies. This focus illustrates the fact that there exist two Germanies, and the split boils down to …geography!…metropolitan areas vs rural areas. And, eastern Germany vs. western Germany. Thus, the split mirrors the geographic split existing in the two Americas. Thus, look for lessons to be learned by America. Here is a map:
https://images.theconversation.com/files/645040/original/file-20250127-15-bunfhf.png?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1000&fit=clip
A lesson: Just as the geography-defined liberals in Germany deployed extreme legalese chicanery to block the opposition, watch for the geography-defined liberals in the U.S. to do the same. You ain’t seen nothing yet …lawfare is small beer compared to what is coming.
I will try to build upon this fine essay, which deals largely with political maneuvering. As a geography nerd, I am interested in studying a map showing WHERE the AfD’s support lies. This focus illustrates the fact that there exist two Germanies, and the split boils down to …geography!…metropolitan areas vs rural areas. And, eastern Germany vs. western Germany. Thus, the split mirrors the geographic split existing in the two Americas. Thus, look for lessons to be learned by America. Here is a map:
https://images.theconversation.com/files/645040/original/file-20250127-15-bunfhf.png?ixlib=rb-4.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1000&fit=clip
A lesson: Just as the geography-defined liberals in Germany deployed extreme legalese chicanery to block the opposition, watch for the geography-defined liberals in the U.S. to do the same. You ain’t seen nothing yet …lawfare is small beer compared to what is coming.
OK, in English, it's a technical problem. I'll try later.