Steve Sailer on Scott Greer's Critical Pedo Theory - Anti-Gnostic begs to differ


Posted On: Thursday - July 17th 2025 11:55AM MST
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I've been perusing some of the Steve Sailer substack posts lately. He hit a real home run, IMO, in the lingo of his beloved baseball, with his latest TakiMag* column, The Continental Divide. I think he spent a lot of time on this due to its having come from a nice talk he made in Germany somewhere - you still got a watch the verboten subjects there, so exact location unknown.

This favorite article/talk of mine in a long while from Mr. Sailer discussed the existential issue of the immigration invasion of America, with a decent amount of credit given to President Trump. Additionally, he has some of his favorite ideas, like "leapfrogging loyalties", the bad actors (get it?) of Malibu, and more.

However, after getting a home run there, a couple of posts later, I see a post that includes an idea from Mr. Sailer that I don't agree with, and it's a real strike out. That'd be a post that was mostly an excerpt of a post Critical Pedo Theory from that high-IQ fellow named Scott Greer above. Peak Stupidity has noticed that Mr. Sailer, as with his comments under Mr. Greer's writing at the bottom of the former's post with the same title, likes to draw parallels between the the ctrl-left and the alt-right. As for the latter, it's not ALL of the right - it can't include him, of course, but the "low-brow" MAGA folks. I'm kinda' tired of this, and not just because I think the analogies suck. Maybe it's because I'm partially one of the people he derides as "conspiracy theorists"

Well, Mr. Greer is not stupid, and he makes a good effort in drawing these parallels between the CRT (Critical Race Theory) of the left and his supposed CPT (Critical Pedo Theory) of the right. I'll deconstruct (hopefully that word will up my IQ!) this in another post, because I want to paste in an excellent comment by our familiar Anti-Gnostic**. This one is in criticism of Mr. Sailer on the same thing we do not appreciate. It addresses Mr. Sailer's mindset that seems to feel there is no real evil in this world, nor evil people, just a lot of stupidity (yeah, I know!). If people would only read and listen to Mr. Sailer's and others' common sense, they'd GET IT! We'd all be good.

Mr. Sailer goads us "conspiracy theorists" thusly:
Popular conspiracy theories tend to assume that shadowy elite individuals are pulling the strings, although they canโ€™t be bothered to figure out their names.
He wrote this as his commenters discussed the lack of cognition of President Bai Dien and wondered who was REALLY running things. To be fair to Mr. Sailer, he claimed it would just be family/friends/advisors. Nobody, but nobody else, such as the REAL Deep State, was running the show - no, nothing to see here... move along.

OK, here's Mr. Anti-Gnostic:

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Critical Pedo Theory! MAGATS suRe R StUpiD!#*@!

Did you hear the one about that cockamamie lab-leak theory for the Wuflu? Or that wild-eyed tale about Joe Biden being at Stage 4/5 dementia and practically non-agentic beyond what was for breakfast? Or (get this), that whopper about the Clinton campaign conspiring with elements of British intelligence to fabricate a dossier on Trump and disseminate it to national media. Or the one about 50 former national security officials with active clearances solemnly lying through their teeth that Hunter's laptop was a Russian plant. As if!

Next you'll tell me the NY Times won a Pulitzer for cooking up Russiagate with the assistance of senior members of the Executive branch. Who also bugged Trump Tower hoping to dig up dirt and influence the election of who would be their next Boss. Like Nixon wasn't nailed to the wall for Watergate?

Do I look like I just fell off the turnip truck?!!!!!

Seriously Steve, a multimillionaire pederast tossing around way more money than his investment footprint would indicate, a private island complete with synagogue, unperson Robert Maxwell's daughter as his madam, a harem of teenaged girls, a jet with flight manifests, Manhattan townhome with surveillance everywhere, a wrist slap after he's caught dead to rights in Miami, and ... NOTHING. Just him and good ol' Ghis arranging dates for Prince Andrew with teenaged females. Well la di da. And then, the most anticipated suicide in human history happens under the watchful eye of Warden Mo'esha. Whattaya whattaya?

It could certainly be nothing. Or it could be something. What's the harm in letting Matt Taibbi loose on it and see what we can find out? Speaking of Matt, remember when he determined through old fashioned, plodding document review that the "Biden" administration conspired with social media companies to suppress certain viewpoints, and he got defamed and summoned to a hearing and raked across the coals for it? Just kidding I made that one up.

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Nice job! Thank you very much, Anti-Gnostic. I couldn't have said that better myself. That's not just because I can't comment there. As for this Scott Greer:




Damn, the guy lost 60 IQ points just writing all that! No, OK, upon learning of Adam Smith's experimentation with WritingToIQ.com, we've had some fun with the AI IQ evaluations under our 2nd-to-previous post. (See, I wrote "evaluations" specifically to raise my estimated IQ and that of our readers.)

When I pasted in a different part into the Writing to IQ AI routine, I got a very respectable 146. Then a combination got me back to 127. Hmmm, it's certain wording that brings scores down.



* Remember that on Takimag, you may start off with a page that says you must eventually subsribe, or whatever. Nah, you don't. You never have to. Just reload or click around a bit.

** Besides being a great regular commenter on The Unz Review before he went on to comment under Mr. Sailer's substack posts, he used to chime in here in our comments - that is until we thought we were done.

Comments:
Moderator
Saturday - July 19th 2025 8:03AM MST
PS: "the Sailer of the 2000s and most of the 2010s would have attacked, attacked, attacked on the Israel/Mossad connections and related angles here. Not as much as some are willing to do, but also not taking a detached view and criticizing the criticizers. There is a man writing at stevesailer.net these-a-days; but I say: "Bring Back Steve Sailer!""

Unfortunately, I didn't have the pleasure to read that Steve Sailer except for the tail end - 2nd half of the '10s. However, his book covers this period. Did he pick out only his less-firebrandy stuff, Mr. Hail? If not a firebrand, maybe Mr. Sailer was more interested in noticing those connections and at least pointing out the contradictions and hypocrisy in his sardonic, snarky, but friendly manner.
Moderator
Saturday - July 19th 2025 7:37AM MST
PS: I read this yesterday, Mr. Hail. I probably don't keep up as much as you do with the Yuge MAGA reaction. I'm sure the left hopes that this is Trump's downfall. I really hate seeing the guy lie obviously and directly like he did here. MAGA also sees this as the end of any effort to root out the Deep State, I guess. To me, that latter is the crux of the matter.

We could put up with another lying politician if he's still doing Job 1 because he really does care about the future of White America. (Though I guess it's still not as much as he cares about himself and his feelings - as per SafeNow in the next post.)

I'll have a post coming on this. I could paste in yours too, before that, if you're OK with it. Today I'll just have something short and not so important, and there's plenty more stupidity around.

Nothing is new on your site, BTW. Do you have anything coming?
Hail
Friday - July 18th 2025 9:23AM MST
PS

Re: "CPT" and "CRT," Epstein, Epstein-outrage, Left turns against Epstein, Trump presidency possibly destroyed by Epstein scandal, and the role of Sailer

CPT is a red herring. The real outrage is not that girls (of any age) were being exploited, manipulated, and apparently trafficked. (Ghislaine is in prison for those things; they are certainly real.) Nor is the outrage that some of the girls were below a certain age.

The above are assuredly bad things. They are small moral outrages in their own right --- and, yes, they are large outrages if one is related to the exploited girls. But they're also common stories all across the world and history. If this is the extent of the story -- girls exploited in x number by multi-national cosmopolitan con-man billionaire -- we wouldn't care anywhere near as much as this story has mushroomed into.

It's now looking a lot like it COULD destroy the Trump-II presidency. Is it too far to imagine even a successful impeachment over the Epstein scandal, with enough Republicans defecting this time? Trump removed from office over it? It would take 20 of the 53 Republican Senators to vote to remove, which seems far-fetched but at some point it could be a question of numbers, especially if Trump tries lashing out (he is getting more and more erratic; attacking cruelly his own core-supporters is a foolish mistake he wouldn't have made in the sleeker, leaner years of 2015-17).

At the least, the Trump-Epstein scandal may cause a huge wipe-out in the November 2026 Congressional elections. It would be a huge D-supermajority as the Trump-MAGA coalition may abandon the Donald "Epstein Guy" Trump. Then the threshold to impeach and remove (a big wipe-out could reduce the number of R-Senators needed to remove a president down to under 15; a good cushion below the current 20). This impeachment could come promptly in January 2027. That means Trump could have only 17.5 months left.

If the story ended with "trafficking of girls," it wouldn't have this long staying power.

The real outrage is not the trafficking girls. It's that Epstein was "intelligence" (to quote the one guy who was forbidden from prosecuting Epstein). Epstein was for many years involved with Israeli and other inter- or multi-national intelligence- and influence-operations.

Any text-to-IQ-poor-performing, third-rate circus clown with at least an eighth-grade education, if he reads a book or two on espionage and intelligence-agency activities, knows that Epstein's kinds of blackmail operations are common in that world; at some scale, at least. The scale of the Epstein activities, the mass violation of sovereignty and the dignity of the American state and people, by Israel and those connected to it, are the reason the scandal caused such a commotion and has the potential to finally get rid of Trump.

It's possible the Left is now on board not only to get Trump, but because Israel has dropped like a rock in popularity ever since they killed 5% of the Gaza population, gravely injured another 10%, and are inducing the earth deaths of a good portion of the rest, with active Trump-endorsed plans for full expulsion.

As for Steve Sailer. I've said it before and I'll say it again: the Sailer of the 2000s and most of the 2010s would have attacked, attacked, attacked on the Israel/Mossad connections and related angles here. Not as much as some are willing to do, but also not taking a detached view and criticizing the criticizers. There is a man writing at stevesailer.net these-a-days; but I say: "Bring Back Steve Sailer!"
Adam Smith
Friday - July 18th 2025 8:18AM MST
PS: Hello, Mr. Moderator,

๐‘ƒ๐‘™๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘ ๐‘’ ๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘ ๐‘ก๐‘’ ๐‘Ž ๐‘ ๐‘Ž๐‘š๐‘๐‘™๐‘’ ๐‘ก๐‘’๐‘ฅ๐‘ก ๐‘๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘ก๐‘Ž๐‘–๐‘›๐‘–๐‘›๐‘” ๐‘Ž๐‘ก ๐‘™๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘ ๐‘ก 50 ๐‘ค๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ๐‘‘๐‘ , ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’๐‘› ๐‘๐‘™๐‘–๐‘๐‘˜ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘๐‘ข๐‘ก๐‘ก๐‘œ๐‘› ๐‘๐‘’๐‘™๐‘œ๐‘ค ๐‘ก๐‘œ ๐‘™๐‘’๐‘ก ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘”๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘š ๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘ฆ๐‘ง๐‘’ ๐‘–๐‘ก.

But...

๐‘š๐‘’๐‘ก๐‘Ž๐‘โ„Ž๐‘ฆ๐‘ ๐‘–๐‘๐‘  ๐‘“๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘ข๐‘‘ ๐‘’๐‘ฅ๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘ก๐‘’๐‘›๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘š ๐‘™๐‘ข๐‘ฅ๐‘’๐‘š๐‘๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘” ๐‘›๐‘–โ„Ž๐‘–๐‘™๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘š ๐‘˜๐‘–๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘˜๐‘’๐‘”๐‘Ž๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘‘ ๐‘“๐‘Ž๐‘ก๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘š ๐‘๐‘ข๐‘ก๐‘™๐‘’๐‘Ÿ ๐‘‘๐‘’ ๐‘๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘ข๐‘ฃ๐‘–๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘š๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฅ ๐‘’๐‘š๐‘๐‘–๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘š ๐‘š๐‘Ž๐‘ก๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘š ๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘ข๐‘ ๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘–๐‘ก๐‘ฆ ๐‘๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘ž๐‘ข๐‘’ ๐‘™๐‘–๐‘›๐‘”๐‘ข๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘๐‘  ๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘ฆ๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘›๐‘’๐‘›๐‘ก๐‘Ž๐‘™ ๐‘Ž ๐‘๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ๐‘– ๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘–๐‘’๐‘›๐‘Ž๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘œ๐‘› ๐‘™๐‘Ž๐‘๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฆ ๐‘œ๐‘“ ๐‘ฃ๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘ข๐‘’ ๐‘๐‘œ๐‘š๐‘š๐‘œ๐‘‘๐‘–๐‘ก๐‘ฆ ๐‘“๐‘’๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘ โ„Ž๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘š ๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘๐‘–๐‘ก๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘ก ๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘š

๐ต๐‘–๐‘ฅ ๐‘๐‘œ๐‘œ๐‘‘! ๐‘๐‘ค๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ๐‘‘!

is only 32 words. ๐Ÿค”

It's not a Math to IQ estimator. So there's that, I guess.(?) But it does seem like it is programmed to place a high value on certain fifty four dollar words and (apparently) certain names. As the ๐‘š๐‘’๐‘ก๐‘Ž๐‘โ„Ž๐‘ฆ๐‘ ๐‘–๐‘๐‘  ๐‘“๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘ข๐‘‘ etc. example shows it evidently does not care about capitalization, punctuation, nor sentence structure. Which, frankly, makes it seem pretty retarded. I would think a writing to IQ estimator algorithm would take those kinds of things in to consideration when tabulating a score. I certainly think it should.

But it is kinda fun to tinker with.
(As if I need another thing to waste time.)

Oh well... Cheers! โ˜ฎ๏ธ
Moderator
Friday - July 18th 2025 7:52AM MST
PS: LOL, Adam! It tells me the minimum number of words required. When I get back on this later on I will see if that number varies, for some odd reason. (I don't know why it would.) Did those extra couple of words put you just over the limit? I'll count words next time.

It's possibly my apple version of ctrl-c missed a letter or word. Anyway, it's kind of fun to figure out what this Artificial Stupidity routine is really using to attempt to estimate IQ.

Adam Smith
Friday - July 18th 2025 7:16AM MST
PS: Good morning, Achmed!

I still get 198 when I paste it in to the IQ bot. (Just tried a few minutes ago.) When I changed Nword to Nigger it brought it down to 194. It's interesting to me that it returns different scores from different computers/locations or whatever is going on here. I tried it in three different web browsers and they all received the same score (198) so I don't think it is that but I really don't know why the discrepancy, however slight it may be.

Last night I pasted Mr. Hail's example texts in to it (two posts back) and it told me it was too short. When I added Bix Nood! it returned a 198. So I guess from now on whenever it tells me the text is too short I'll add a Bix Nood or Nigger and see what happens.

Happy Friday! โ˜ฎ๏ธ



Moderator
Friday - July 18th 2025 7:02AM MST
PS: Adam, I pasted the very same in, but WritingToIQ said it was too short. I pasted it in again, and it gave me a 185. Does it not see exact duplication of writing as a sign of stupidity? This may be some sort of Biden waiver. Anyway, then I put "nigger" at the end of each of the blurbs, and it brought me down 3 IQ points.

I added "Hey, what the hell, man?" to each, and it brought me down into the 160s. Interesting.
Moderator
Friday - July 18th 2025 6:59AM MST
PS: I don't mind at all your pasting in the WSJ article here, Mr. Hail. It saves me trouble as the old TV-station (the worst!) and lots of legacy media sites have just too much underlying scripts and ads to make it worth waiting for it all to settle down so I can read.

Not to mention, if Trump is in a suing mood, he should probably think about suing both Peak Stupidity and this vague entity called "Hail" (haha). Any publicity is good publicity, at least that's exactly what Donald Trump, TV-lover thinks. He'd be a better man today if he'd never gotten into the TV business.
Adam Smith
Thursday - July 17th 2025 8:08PM MST
PS: Good evening, Achmed and Friends!

metaphysics freud existentialism luxemberg nihilism kierkegaard fatalism butler de beauvior marx empiricism materialism causality critique linguistics analytic continental a priori alienation labor theory of value commodity fetishism capitalist realism

Bix Nood! Nword!

Estimated IQ: 198 (exceptionally gifted)
https://i.ibb.co/nsxDbWr7/Writing-to-IQ-Estimator.jpg

โ˜ฎ๏ธ

Hail
Thursday - July 17th 2025 7:25PM MST
PS

-- "May every day be another wonderful secret!" -Blempf to Epstein on the latter's 50th birthday, 2003

.

Forgive me for re-posting the entirety of this story published earlier today for the benefit of PS community (which has elicited Trump threatening the WSJ and making moves to sue):

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(quote)

Exclusive | Jeffrey Epsteinโ€™s Friends Sent Him Bawdy Letters for a 50th Birthday Album. One Was From Donald Trump.

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL / July 17, 2025

The leather-bound book was compiled by Ghislaine Maxwell. The president says the letter โ€˜is a fake thing.โ€™

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It was Jeffrey Epsteinโ€™s 50th birthday, and Ghislaine Maxwell was preparing a special gift to mark the occasion. She turned to Epsteinโ€™s family and friends. One of them was Donald Trump.

Maxwell collected letters from Trump and dozens of Epsteinโ€™s other associates for a 2003 birthday album, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Pages from the leather-bound albumโ€”assembled before Epstein was first arrested in 2006โ€”are among the documents examined by Justice Department officials who investigated Epstein and Maxwell years ago, according to people who have reviewed the pages. Itโ€™s unclear if any of the pages are part of the Trump administrationโ€™s recent review.

The presidentโ€™s past relationship with Epstein is at a sensitive moment. The Justice Department documents, the so-called Epstein files, and who or what is in them are at the center of a storm consuming the Trump administration. On Wednesday, after angry comments about how the files are a hoax created by Democrats, President Trump lashed out at his own supporters for refusing to let the matter go.

The letter bearing Trumpโ€™s name, which was reviewed by the Journal, is bawdyโ€”like others in the album. It contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker. A pair of small arcs denotes the womanโ€™s breasts, and the future presidentโ€™s signature is a squiggly โ€œDonaldโ€ below her waist, mimicking pubic hair.

The letter concludes: โ€œHappy Birthday โ€” and may every day be another wonderful secret.โ€

In an interview with the Journal on Tuesday evening, Trump denied writing the letter or drawing the picture. โ€œThis is not me. This is a fake thing. Itโ€™s a fake Wall Street Journal story,โ€ he said.

โ€œI never wrote a picture in my life. I donโ€™t draw pictures of women,โ€ he said. โ€œItโ€™s not my language. Itโ€™s not my words.โ€

He told the Journal he was preparing to file a lawsuit if it published an article. โ€œIโ€™m gonna sue The Wall Street Journal just like I sued everyone else,โ€ he said.

Allegations that Epstein had been sexually abusing girls became public in 2006 and he was arrested that year. Epstein died in 2019 in jail after he was arrested a second time and charged with sex trafficking conspiracy.

Justice Department officials didnโ€™t respond to requests for comment or address questions about whether the Trump page and other pages of the birthday album were part of the agencyโ€™s recent documents review. The FBI declined to comment.

The existence of the album and the contents of the birthday letters havenโ€™t previously been reported.

The album had poems, photos and greetings from businesspeople, academics, Epsteinโ€™s former girlfriends and childhood pals, according to the documents reviewed by the Journal and people familiar with them.

Among those who submitted letters were billionaire Leslie Wexner and attorney Alan Dershowitz. The album also contained a letter from a now-deceased Harvard economist, one of Epsteinโ€™s report cards from Mark Twain junior high school in Brooklyn and a note from a former assistant that included an acrostic with Epsteinโ€™s name: โ€œJeffrey, oh Jeffrey!/ Everyone loves you!/ Fun in the sun!/ Fun just for fun!/ Rememberโ€ฆdonโ€™t forget me soon!/ Epsteinโ€ฆyou rock!/ You are the best!โ€

Epstein was Wexnerโ€™s money manager at the time. The longtime leader of Victoriaโ€™s Secret wrote a short message that said: โ€œI wanted to get you what you wantโ€ฆ so here it isโ€ฆ.โ€

After the text was a line drawing of what appeared to be a womanโ€™s breasts.

Wexner declined to comment through a spokesman. Wexnerโ€™s spokesman previously told the Journal that the retail mogul โ€œsevered all ties with Epstein in 2007 and never spoke with him again.โ€

Dershowitzโ€™s letter included a mock-up of a โ€œVanity Unfairโ€ magazine cover with mock headlines such as โ€œWho was Jack the Ripper? Was it Jeffrey Epstein?โ€ He joked that he had convinced the magazine to change the focus of an article from Epstein to Bill Clinton.

Dershowitz, who represented Epstein after his first arrest, said, โ€œItโ€™s been a long time and I donโ€™t recall the content of what I may have written.โ€

The book was put together by a New York City bookbinder, Herbert Weitz, according to people who were involved in the process. Weitz, who died in 2020, listed Epstein as a client on his website in 2003.

It isnโ€™t clear how the letter with Trumpโ€™s signature was prepared. Inside the outline of the naked woman was a typewritten note styled as an imaginary conversation between Trump and Epstein, written in the third person.

โ€œVoice Over: There must be more to life than having everything,โ€ the note began.

Donald: Yes, there is, but I wonโ€™t tell you what it is.

Jeffrey: Nor will I, since I also know what it is.

Donald: We have certain things in common, Jeffrey.

Jeffrey: Yes, we do, come to think of it.

Donald: Enigmas never age, have you noticed that?

Jeffrey: As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.

Trump: A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday โ€” and may every day be another wonderful secret.

โ€˜Jeffrey enjoys his social lifeโ€™

When he turned 50, Epstein was already wealthy from managing Wexnerโ€™s fortune and was socializing with Trump, Clinton and other powerful people at his Manhattan townhouse, Palm Beach, Fla., home and private Caribbean island.

A spokesman for Clinton referred to a 2019 statement that former President Clinton had cut off ties more than a decade before Epsteinโ€™s second arrest and didnโ€™t know about Epsteinโ€™s alleged crimes.

Epstein and Trump spent time together in the 1990s and early 2000s and were photographed at social events, including with Maxwell and Melania Trump. A 1992 tape from the NBC archives shows Trump partying with Epstein at his Mar-a-Lago estate; Trump is seen pulling a woman toward him and patting her behind.

Trump, along with others including Clinton, also appeared several times on flight logs for Epsteinโ€™s private jet.
A 2002 New York magazine profile of Epstein quoted Trump. โ€œIโ€™ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,โ€ Trump said. โ€œHeโ€™s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about itโ€”Jeffrey enjoys his social life.โ€

Both men said that they subsequently had a falling-out. Trump has said their friendship ended before Epstein pleaded guilty to procuring a minor for prostitution in 2008, served time in a Florida jail and registered as a sex offender.

When Epstein was arrested again in 2019, Trump said he hadnโ€™t talked to Epstein for about 15 years. โ€œI knew him like everybody in Palm Beach knew him,โ€ Trump said in the Oval Office at that time. โ€œI was not a fan of his, that I can tell you.โ€

Trumpโ€™s spokeswoman told the Journal in 2023 that Trump had banned Epstein from his Mar-a-Lago club at some point in the past, without elaborating.

Maxwell, a British socialite, was convicted in 2021 of helping Epsteinโ€™s sex-trafficking and sentenced to 20 years in prison. Maxwell didnโ€™t respond to a letter requesting an interview sent to her in prison. Arthur Aidala, an attorney representing Maxwell in her appeal, said, โ€œAt this point, she is focused on her case before the Supreme Court of the United States.โ€

The FBIโ€™s Epstein files

Epsteinโ€™s associations with Trump and many powerful people have been well documented. There remain questions about what the FBI possesses about Epstein and his well-connected friends. In 2019, the FBI confiscated evidence from Epsteinโ€™s properties in the U.S. Virgin Islands and New York.

Earlier Tuesday, after the Journal sought comment from the president about the letter, Trump told reporters at the White House that he believed some Epstein files were โ€œmade upโ€ by former Presidents Barack Obama and Joe Biden and former FBI Director James Comey.

He said that releasing any more Epstein files would be up to Attorney General Pam Bondi. โ€œWhatever she thinks is credible, she should release,โ€ Trump said.

Allegations that bureaucrats covered up Epsteinโ€™s connections with participants in his trafficking scheme were fanned by people now in top roles in the Trump administration, including FBI Director Kash Patel and his deputy, Dan Bongino.

In June 2024, Trump was asked in a Fox News interview whether he would release the Epstein case files. The Republican presidential candidate initially responded, โ€œYeah, I would.โ€ But he also expressed some reservations. โ€œYou donโ€™t want to affect peopleโ€™s lives if itโ€™s phony stuff in there, because itโ€™s a lot of phony stuff with that whole world. But I think I would.โ€

Soon after she was confirmed as attorney general, Bondi said she was preparing to release new Epstein files. In late February, Bondi announced the release of โ€œPhase 1โ€ of the documents. But the material contained few new revelations, drawing criticism from right-wing influencers.

Bondi initially blamed the FBIโ€™s New York office for withholding information and promised to release the remaining documents after redacting the victimโ€™s names. Patel also said, โ€œThere will be no coverups, no missing documents and no stone left unturned.โ€ They tasked hundreds of FBI employees to review the materials and prepare them for release.

The issue took on new life in June when Elon Musk, amid a public feud with Trump, alleged that the FBI was withholding documents from the Epstein case because Trump was in the files.

โ€œThe truth will come out,โ€ Musk wrote on X on June 5. He later deleted the message and said he regretted some of his comments.

On July 7, the Justice Department backtracked on Bondiโ€™s pledge to release more Epstein files. The Justice Department said that after an โ€œexhaustive reviewโ€ it had found no โ€œincriminating client listโ€ or additional documents that warrant public disclosure.

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee demanded this week that Republican Chairman Jim Jordan hold hearings on the Trump administrationโ€™s handling of the Epstein files and, if necessary, subpoena Bondi, Patel and Bongino.

At a cabinet meeting on July 8, Trump criticized a reporter for asking about Epstein. โ€œAre people still talking about this guy, this creep?โ€ Trump said. โ€œThat is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time?โ€

That same day, Musk wrote on X: โ€œHow can people be expected to have faith in Trump if he wonโ€™t release the Epstein files?โ€

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