Trump and Zelensky press conference


Posted On: Saturday - March 1st 2025 6:24PM MST
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  The Russians  TV, aka Gov't Media  Trump  The Neocons  World Political Stupidity

Peak Stupidity has been very surprised and mostly impressed by the actions of President Trump-47 so far. I add that "-47" to contrast his current ways with the mostly ineffective, distracted, and miserable efforts of Trump-45. We can have arguments about the Existential Issue, of course, but that can't be every post here. (VDare should be covering that, dammit! Can someone please put that fat-ass Black! political whore Leticia James out of business... anyone... anyone ... Bueller Donald?)

I haven't had so much respect for Donald Trump, because I don't care for the TV showman crap, the bragging, and the Caudillo style behavior. He's what we got, however, which will apply to another post coming. What you may want to watch below has given me quite a bit more respect for the man.

Due to all the hype about it, along with the suggestion by a commenter on ZeroHedge to watch the whole thing, I have embedded below the full 50 minute press conference by President Trump and V.* Zelensky regarding a deal to end the Ukraine/Russia war. Peak Stupidity has stated from the very beginning that we will not follow what we saw as a distraction (for Americans, that is) but more importantly something that should not be America's business. (See also this post from even earlier on.)

That was 3 years back. As usual, America, for some reason, has to act as the world's policeman, something the ctrl-left told us was very bad during the "police actions" and such of the Cold War. (They just wanted the Commies to win, without our interference.) Granted, the reason this time could be chalked up to the Potomac Regime having, if not started the whole thing, surely exacerbated the tensions and egged on the Russians 11 years ago, their already having being boxed in by NATO step by step for 2 1/2 decades prior. I suppose diplomacy is being more like the world's Judge Judy rather than the policeman, the former a lot cheaper.

If there is to be diplomacy, President Trump has impressed me with his ability to do it. He is that "Art of the Deal" guy, something I derided when he sucked at it last term (thinking more domestically then). Besides that the whole video gives us a view of Trump as a negotiator and diplomat, the first 40 minutes explains the latter part that is causing all the hype, as the peace deal probably has been cancelled. The latter is a big story involving and explaining a divide growing between America and Europe. (I would write "Western ..", but then I will mention a Polish reporter down below.) Comments below the video.



I don't see the same campaign-rally-Trump, the guy that talks round and round in circles, or the Joe Rogan 3-hour interview (catching OCD was the only way to get through it!) rambling and blabbing about TV Trump. What a difference there is, not just between Trump and senile old Brandon, but even between him and your Bushes, Øb☭mas, and Clintons. Obviously more lucid than Brandon, Trump was in his element and came across much more honest and straightforward than those others did in their day. (Granted, that may not be intelligence so much as they had Regime lies to support.)

There were just a couple of digressions. Early on, Trump spun off the subject to tout his first 30-35 day's worth of action. That was only a minute or two, kind of like an embedded commercial break. After the big blow up (48 min. in), while discussing Putin, he got into that Hunter, Joe, laptop, and Lyin' Press Russia! Russia! Russia!** travesty. He's completely right on this, and it's not actually that off-topic. Trump's point in bringing up the BS story of Russia's having influenced the '16 election is that it used Putin as one of the bad guys (Trump being the other, of course). What kind of foreign relations is that, the Lyin' Press ginning up a 3-year-long story and great distraction for Trump (the point of it, IMO), making an important foreign leader the evil protagonist? That's not at all helpful to the cause of world peace.

A true classic Trump literal-LOL gem occurred after a CNN reporter's questions starting at ~ 37 min in. Trump had a good answer, but then added that CNN "oughta focus right now on survival." ;-} I am still highly amused thinking of this right now!

Some Polish reporter asked a question, but it was one of those that was really a big statement. The man mentioned the horrible time (40 years) of being under the control of the Soviet Union and Communism. He seems very worried about Russia coming across Europe, as if this were 1985 at the Fulda Gap. This is the reason the Europeans in general seem to (or use in pretense) to support the Ukraine. It's Domino Theory 2.0. To me, Trump missed a great opportunity then to retort that "Yeah, that country was the USSR, see? We're talking about Russia now."

The idea for the press conference was to show progress, and that everyone was going to be happy, and peace will break out, not to air grievances and hash it out in front of the press. Besides that Zelensky interrupted Trump, while Trump did not interrupt him, at points, this thing looked like a Sunday morning talking heads TV show. That would have been OK in private. Guess who else was watching besides Peak Stupidity.

Finally, as to the last 10 minutes that has been The Big Story. You don't do diplomacy the way V. Zelensky acted throughout the first 40 minutes. The last straw was at that 40 minute mark or so. Zelensky kept inserting his animosity and Putin-is-monster opinions and anecdotes throughout, as Trump did as a diplomat should, not trying to favor either side. Whatever the 2 (or with Rubio and Vance too) talked about before, Zelensky obviously went off script much of the press conference due to his hopes in changing things to a deal in which America supports the Ukraine. He couldn't help himself, but he screwed the pooch. His idea would be the same-old-same-old wartime, except with some minerals changing hands.***

I imagine Trump didn't like much of this talk all along, but he looked down and kept his cool. He may have been thinking "This may not work out if this keeps up." Still, Trump's ability to keep a stance of fairness may have worked out until Zelensky went way overboard, interrupting Trump again with an anti-Putin rant. Hey, maybe he was even speaking the truth there, but that's how you ruin a deal. He did. Trump can't go agreeing with this, and then, what, tell Putin that was just for show?

After this, well, things got real, real quickly, out in front of everyone. I think that's why this is a big story - it's some actual Reality TV.**** One can see the last part elsewhere, but please watch the whole thing to get a feel of: a) What really happened, and how you DON'T do diplomacy, no fault of Trump's whatsoever and b) How impressive Trump can be as a diplomat, were he not to get blindsided by the airing of grievances inappropriately.


PS: I had 3 other posts, some of which should be up here today, but they'll have to wait until next blog-week. America v Europe is one, then a couple of short ones I'd spoil by mentioning, and I have been thinking about the topic of deflation.



* I just plain don't feel like spelling it - not my problem - how about Americanize (?) it to Vlad.

** Trump said it this way. I had no idea this was the terminology in broad use. I'd thought Peak Stupidity started this first. Does the President read here?

*** Trump LUVS him some Raw Earth, haha! Does he not mean Rare Earth metals? That's a chemical term, but then what does the Art of the Deal guy need to know about no periodic table? Still, someone's got to correct him at some point, right?

**** Trump made some remark along these lines too.

Comments:
Adam Smith
Monday - March 3rd 2025 9:38PM MST
PS: Good evening, Mr. Moderator,

I haven't watched this yet, but...
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6qnyzf

Probably not any harder than learning the cube.(?) ☮️

Moderator
Monday - March 3rd 2025 9:10PM MST
PS: Adam, I cannot figure out most of the very simplest of card tricks, never mind that one.
Moderator
Monday - March 3rd 2025 9:09PM MST
PS: Alarmist: "There were a couple points where I thought Zelenskiy might take a swing at or shove Trump."

There's an AI thing with a little bit of grabbing but no swinging. Why didn't the requester of the AI video ask for a little more, with blood coming out of noses and some 5'2" secret service "gal" jumping on top of the fray and getting beat up by Zelensky? They coulda' done better with this.

I had to look up Ursula von der Leyen, the head of the EU. I suppose she'd be chagrined at hearing nobody cares! (Around here.) I agree - bring her in and tell her "we're out!" ... of everything, NATO, the UN, the whole Globalist project.
Adam Smith
Monday - March 3rd 2025 4:23PM MST
PS: How to unshuffle a deck of cards the right way...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkNHbXPbetA

Happy Monday! ☮️

Adam Smith
Sunday - March 2nd 2025 11:45AM MST
PS: Greetings, y'all!

https://i.ibb.co/9kN8R8G1/Dressed-Up-Award.jpg

Happy Sunday! ☮️
The Alarmist
Sunday - March 2nd 2025 9:36AM MST
PS

The only thing missing was Mr. Trump doing “The Cobra” and saying, “You’re fired !”

There were a couple points where I thought Zelenskiy might take a swing at or shove Trump. I wished he had. Doing a Diem in the Oval Office on live TV might have been cool and shown the EuroTards the times they could eff with the US are behind us.

Time for Messers Trump, Vance, and Rubio to bring Ursala bin Lyin to the Oval. They were too nice with Macron and Starmer, but they can make up for that by spanking that unelected witch.

☯️
Moderator
Sunday - March 2nd 2025 7:50AM MST
PS: M, once the Communists took over, the average Russian people didn't have much say in anything. We've been close to that with the Potomac Regime's behavior over the last 4 years. However, the SYSTEM has to change. I hope ours is changing, with Trump and MAGA.

Since the USSR collapsed at the end of the 1980s, the Russian people have been under a different system, and no, of course it's no Constitutional Republic as we imagine it. However, Putin's wishes notwithstanding*, I don't think the ambition of Russians or the Russian "system" is to take over the world - it had been with the USSR to spread Communism. Communists understood that unless they spread it all over the world, the free(er) people would "be a bad influence" or "set a bad example" to those living under Communism.

Was it in the Russians' nature to be Totalitarians or only the Russians and inner-party Muscovites? Look at the Germans now as compared to those of 90 years ago - or go back before The Great War. Those wars killed many of the best of the Germans, the French, the British, etc. Are the Germans of today of the same nature? I don't know about that.

From what I see, the Germans are so left as to be turning hard-Totalitarian for quite different reasons than the Nazis. These people can't take over the world though, and as a ZeroHedge commenter just wrote, they'd form a Caliphate before an empire, that way things are going. The Brits, those who bequeathed America and the rights understood by the Founders are now going Orwellian left-wing. Rather than reform an Empire in which the sun never sets, they'd be lucky also they won't end up as part of a Caliphate.

In both cases, it's not the people so much as the governments, but yet they still have enough people there who will vote in these governments. I can't say much for us either, as we came pretty close to a D.I.E. administration of Kameltoe Harris.

Well, that was long-winded and all over the place, but I don't agree with the worries of the Europeans that think the Russians are up to the same thing as the Comrades of the USSR were 40 years ago. Their system isn't the same either.

Instead, I think there are people who WANT the Europeans to think like that, as if this is 1985. Russia is somewhat independent of the Globohomo and also is going away from the US $. Globalists don't like a strong Russia, I guess because they don't have much control of the place.

Just speculation here - I've never been to the place. (We were going to go there 8-10 years ago, before the NeoCons completely wrecked relations with the US.)


* And I don't know so much about him, but I don't think his goal is an empire that runs the world.
Moderator
Sunday - March 2nd 2025 7:30AM MST
PS: I agree, Jim. No matter what the people wanted, it was the same-old-same-old out of the President, because he's been a member of the UniParty until this guy Trump. That's why they all HATE Trump so much - he is not of the UniParty.

We haven't seen any new words and action as out of Trump since, when... maybe when Reagan dealt with the Soviets?
M
Sunday - March 2nd 2025 5:53AM MST
PS
The Polish reporter was quite correct to be worried about the Russians. The USSR was mostly run by Russians, for the benefit of Russians, specifically Muscovites.
Rather like the US regime (and I think it's fair to call it that) was being run for the benefit of those "based in" DC, come to think of it.

The Russians haven't changed their nature; some of the commissars are still alive after all. Look at the Germans; they underwent a much more thorough pogrom and their basic nature hasn't changed.

Yes, Zelenskyy did screw the pooch on this. This wasn't really supposed to be a negotiating conference; who does those in front of reporters?
J1234
Saturday - March 1st 2025 10:27PM MST
PS-

Yeah, I also was pleased by Trump's take down of Zelenskyy. I actually kind of cheered when I saw the clip because I'm tired of contrite American presidents dealing with self-righteous leaders from struggling countries who lecture us while accepting billions of dollars in US aid. Such ingratitude. The Zelenskyy exchange should be a template for Trump when dealing with such leaders...and a warning for such leaders when dealing with Trump. It's not a one-size-fits-all strategy, of course. Should be reserved for the worst offenders, but I'm glad it was televised for everyone to see.



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