Unburdened by what might have been...


Posted On: Thursday - November 7th 2024 8:11AM MST
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... and what should never be. Isn't that a Led Zeppelin song? Well, almost - my chronic lyricosis is flaring up again.

What a relief that was yesterday morning! The last time I felt unburdened like this I had to make a quick run to the hardware store for a bigger plunger.



I have another map saved from 4 AM on Wednesday morning, as screenshotted from the bing page. Why they wouldn't give up and call Wisconsin especially is a subject for another post - - Do the math" or "#TooBigToRig?".


I look back to Tuesday and see that I was pretty dang black-pilled, even for me. I can't say I will walk back much of that, though, as the same black pills I take twice daily* really ought to be prescribed for most Americans, by Doctors of Finance, that is. However, that'll have to be another post - Peak Stupidity wrote about the situation nearly 8 years back in our 8-Part Primer on the state of Global Financial Stupidity (look under Global Financial Stupidity) back when our reading of great articles on ZeroHedge was still fresh, but we've kept this up occasionally over the years.

I am a lot more hopeful today though, a state that used to be more the norm for me, until 4 years of mostly ineffective efforts to set American right in '17-'21 and then 4 more years that were nothing but very effective efforts in the cause of pure destruction. It's not just financially that we are in a deep hole. The immigration invasion has become nearly hopeless, but then that depends. If President Trump, with his MUCH BETTER help he's got lined up, can get things done - who knows? The existential issue of the Population Replacement Programme (we're against it!) must be completely reversed, not just stopped. We must be at 40-50 million illegal aliens in our land now, and the proportion of violent criminals and uber-foreigners is higher due to the last 4 years of evil action.

I will know that Trump is truly serious about any of this ONLY if he releases the J-6 Political Prisoners, first thing. That's action that does not lend itself to excuses, such as ctrl-left judges, entrenched bureaucracy, etc. Pardon them. Let them out!

Can serious control of the border, mass deportations (resulting in self-deportation too), mass firings of Feral Dept. heads** until the whole orgs swing around, elimination of entire orgs***, and elimination of the anti-White Wokeness throughout the whole Government happen? It can't be like last time, that's for sure. Last time, President Trump had a slim GOP majority in the Senate, but also in the House for the 1st 2 years. He mostly got nowhere with the Congress, hence the temporary success of his under-the-radar actions on the immigration invasion.

Now, granted, GOP is not MAGA. Trump's job will also be to keep building the MAGA party. That includes something he is really great at, rallying people to vote for "his" candidates. To get the Congress to help MAGA, you've got to have a strategy. That means this: "Hello, Congressmen X. I see you are planning to vote against our proposal. I'll tell you right now, if you don't support us on these top 10 items, I will be in your district supporting your primary opponent, multiple times. I mean it. Don't make me come down there, asshole!" Rinse and repeat, as they say.

It's a lot of work, but Trump has a lot of energy. Elon Musk does, JFK, Jr. is good for a few things, Tulsi is young, and even 90 y/o Ron Paul is raring to help. It won't be like this:



Commenter Hail, of the (in?)famous Hail To You blog sent us (me, at least) to a Steve Sailer substack post that had a very encouraging series of points written by "a reader"****. I very much like that the guy wrote "The threat of anarchotyranny and communism recedes for now." Mr. Sailer would have never have used those very appropriate terms. The rest of the points are very good too and have changed my hopes to a degree. However, it's this "for now" part that jives with my Doomer writing on Tuesday and explains why Steve Sailer wouldn't write this one bit (though agreeing in general with the hopefulness, I think).

The people against Trump are not all stupid. Some in control of things are evil instead. They won't just back off because Americans are coming around to see our problems, with this Presidential Dream Team and hopefully a Congress that is not against us on paper, at least, to fix it all. They will work hard to continue the push toward the destruction of America. Can all of us stop them at this very late stage of it?

They will not just skulk off and scurry away. Here's one thing I meant to write on Tuesday, but the post was long enough... and, I forgot. This election mattered in that, were this vapid, Communist-inspired, D.I.E. broad to have taken the Presidency, I'd have had real disgust for the people of those who supported and voted for her. Cheating could have been a bigger factor, but, well, it's disgust for how far Banana Republican we've become too.

She lost though. The numbers this morning are 50.9% to 49.6% Trump:Harris. Should I be any less disgusted at the people than if it were 49.9% to 50.1%? There are a lot of them.

It's time to be hopeful again though! Morning in America, 2.0? No. Still, I haven't given up hope before, and now's surely not the time for that.


PS: Also, the violence from the ctrl-left has not started and maybe won't. We'll see. The '17 inauguration brought lots of violence from the ctrl-left right into Washington. Alas, lots of people have forgotten...

PPS: Since I started reading the UR comment thread****, I have to answer this from commenter Arclight. I always agree with this guy, but...
Self-reflection does not seem to be a quality most of the professional left possesses these days โ€“ on immigration, DIE, and trans stuff the public is clearly on the other side and yet the Dems just kept pushing forward on all of it like they didnโ€™t think there was going to be any penalty for it.
There's an assumption here that this professional left wants to please the public. No. They want destruction, knowing full well that half of the public does not.



* Try the 0.5 kg dose first, to see if Endthefederin is right for you. Peak Stupidity takes no responsibility for any side effects or anything else happening in the world. [/Disclaimer: PS Legal Dept.]

** Trump and his people MUST realize by now that they can't play by the rules of the 1980s. "Oh, the Senate is blocking a confirmation? Really? Well, my hand-picked deputy, now acting director, will do the job until you let one of OUR guys take the job. His acting status is time-limited, you say? We got another guy to be acting director.", i.e. F.U.!

*** It's not just about money. I give Trump credit for understanding that it's the massive regulation, not just the taxes, that burden, if I may use that word now, the economy. Take out OSHA entirely. The beneficial effects will be more than just that Americans have that extra money to use more productively.

**** The quotes are just because I have no idea who he is. I thought it was possibly an Unz Review commenter, but I looked in the latest thread there and couldn't find it.

Comments:
Moderator
Saturday - November 9th 2024 7:45AM MST
PS: Oh, and then there's China. You may need a big group of agents to work in the many Chinatowns for years to sort it out. Still, send them back - it's a bit more pricey, but you make China pay for it. Yes, that CAN be done. Trump is right about that. Why did he not do what was suggested by (of course) VDare writers, which was to tax Western Union (etc.) wired remittances, say 25% or so.

Or, the machine, or blank-faced Millenial broad at the counter, says "There will be a foreign exchange fee of 25%, exchange fee, see? Yeah that's the ticket."
Moderator
Saturday - November 9th 2024 7:41AM MST
PS: I like back-of-the-envelope math like that. Thanks, for the both of you.*

In 1863 (didn't look at Mr. Smith's link yet), the bounties could have been on cattle rustlers. Yes, that was big money, for some major amount of work. Now? You just put detainers or whatever legal term it is to make sure they get taken in. The program (not evil, so normal spelling) would involve some big temporary pens like the ones in Louisiana.

From there, sometimes via Miami, narrow-body planes can take 150 per shot down to Haiti, Salvador, Honduras, etc. For the Africans, you need widebodies, 300 or so per shot.

The numbers are not at all overwhelming. If you take 10,000 daily total illegal aliens, that's 3.6 million a year, meaning 2 things:

1) Within a decade, you've gotten rid of a majority. (This assumes you have a REAL border, of course, so they don't come back in significant numbers.)

2) After just a few months of this serious flow, you're gonna have lots of people sell what they've got, send the money home, and buy their own tickets.

For Africa, 3 widebody flights per day would take care of those illegal aliens in a year or so. It's the legal ones, bringing that famous 13% higher, that will stay.

If Trump does not (get convinced to) do something about the huge LEGAL influx, he hasn't solve the real problem. Of course, the criminal element is a problem of its own and will be taken care of, but it's not really THE problem, which is Population Replacement. I don't even know if those 10's of thousands of Haitian just in the one town, Springfield, Ohio, were legal - all they need is those parolee pieces of paper to make them - Trump is on to this scam, but there's a lot more to it.

Bring back VDare for all the details!

* I'll update with the name field next time in the dBase.
Hail
Saturday - November 9th 2024 6:22AM MST
PS

(The $16,500 (2024-adjusted) "bounty" calculation, unsigned, is mine.)
Hail
Saturday - November 9th 2024 6:21AM MST
PS

Re: Adam Smith's question on an 1863 $200 bounty (cash, no deductions, taxes, fees).

Maybe the best practical way to translate the value to the 2020s would be this this:

In the 1860s, a $60/month salary would be near the market average for a typical U.S. salaried employee. (Though most people being farmers, their income depended on selling their goods and therefore dependent on market-prices; no one hands a 'salary' to an independent farmer. Hired farmhands make low salaries which cannot be used for comparison because most or even all of their expenses are covered by the farmer, so they pocket it all.)

A $200 bounty-sum on that $60 salary-baseline would be equivalent to 3.33 months of salary. In 2024, a socioeconomic-equivalent monthly after-tax salary might be $5000/month. 3.33 x $5000 = $16,500. A 2024-equivalent estimate for the $200 bounty in 1863 could be $16,500.

Amazingly, that is near the sum ($15,000) being quoted by those who oppose the Trump Deportation Program.
Adam Smith
Friday - November 8th 2024 10:40PM MST
PS: Good evening, everyone,

https://i.ibb.co/WPsm9fP/Peanut.jpg

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Thank you for your sympathy, Mr. Alarmist.
(It's been a while. I hope you and Mrs. Alarmist are doing well.)

Mrs. Smith is a bit sad, but otherwise doing alright. She also says it doesn't seem real yet. (Her brother was only a year and a half older than her so it's hitting her kinda hard. She's sad to see him go, but didn't want him to suffer. Sad but relieved.) Thanks again. ๐Ÿ™‚

Oh, on a different note, the only two okra plants still alive, (and the ones I decided to let go to seed), are the two that the deer ate down to the nubbins this summer. They took a little while to recover, but when they did they came back strong. And they're about 14' tall. (crazy.)

Cheers!
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In other news...

Government increases surveillance after Mpox outbreak traced to White Dudes for Harris Campaign Event in Michigan.

(Or something like that.)(/sarc)
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In other, other news...

Does anyone know what $200 in 1863 would be worth today adjusted for inflation?

https://www.usdakotawar.org/history/aftermath/bounties

I'm wondering if the tax cattle could save a few billion dollar bucks by reinstating a scalp bounty in lieu of mass deportation.

I hope you all have a great evening!
Happy Saturday! ๐Ÿ™‚ โ˜ฎ๏ธ

Hail
Friday - November 8th 2024 10:15PM MST
PS

Re: VDare and its future in 2025?

I got/get the sense that VDare's dramatic act of closing itself down, in July 2024, with many harsh words for the New York attorney general, "Leticia James," was a long-game gambit betting on a decisive Trump-2024 win.

After such a Trump-2024 win, VDare's legal troubles would be over, was the gambit. And it would roar back to life in early 2025. A parade, featuring a giant float of a Steve Sailer, would be donated from leftover Peak Stupidity operating funds. A "VDare is Back" parade would triumphantly parade down the town streets of that town in West Virginia. Trump would then invite VDare to re-create the parade along Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington on July 4, 2025, as the early wave of deportations had come in under-budget.

If you do see VDare miraculously start up again, at about 12:01pm Eastern Standard Time, January 20th, 2025, then remember these little words of mine.
Moderator
Friday - November 8th 2024 10:07PM MST
PS: This Rebecca Solnit is a real piece of work, Mr. Hail, and that's putting a good light on her. I had to LOL at "for a supremely qualified Black woman".

This is what Revelation has a lot to say about, lies, and liars like this. I've kept up with Trump for over 9 years now, and Kamela for just the last few months. I may be annoyed by a lot of Trump's antics, but it's obvious he's a decent person. It's obvious that Kamela is not a decent person. What does it take NOT to see this? How do you get like that, to where you can't?

Moderator
Friday - November 8th 2024 9:52PM MST
PS: Just looked over this thread. Important typo of sorts in my comment of 6:48 this morning. Rather than "...as it's a big issue.", it should be "as *IF* it's a big issue."
Moderator
Friday - November 8th 2024 9:50PM MST
PS: I was just about to write about the D primary after your writing before that. Yes, that winnowed her out, but then who was the "best" out of that deal? Zhou Bai Dien. The D squad is not sending their best either, but then that's a good thing, IMO. I don't want a competent destroyer of the country, like, say, Gavin Newscum*.

I understand Mr. Smith's point about the system. We'll see if this election ends up mattering - I think it will.

Some news I just read is that one prospective US Attorney General, one Mike Davis said that if that Leticia James (NY A/G) keeps up the lawfare, he will put her fat ass in prison. Those were his words. I thing this could be very good news for VDare. Can they just crank it all back up? (I would still work on getting all affairs out of New York anyway, in the meantime.) I'm gonna try to find out about this.


* Trump called him that name a handful of times during the Joe Rogan interview. I know that's kind of juvenile, but I like that.
Hail
Friday - November 8th 2024 9:44PM MST
PS

-- Why did U.S. voters re-elect a monster? --

An interesting reaction from writer Rebecca Solnit.

TLDR bullet-pointed summary:
- Whites are bad people and morally deficient;

- males writ large tend to be bad people and morally deficient;

- there is now a pernicious influence of Big Tech to manipulate these morally deficient groups to push them towards Fascism;

- the media's guardrails, to prevent Fascist takeover, have failed and it is uncertain how to strengthen them to prevent more gains by Fascism;

- A long winter of death and despair is coming: the 2020s are destined to be the worst decade since Auschwitz.

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OUR MISTAKE WAS TO THINK WE LIVED IN A BETTER COUNTRY THAN WE DO

by Rebecca Solnit
The Guardian

"Americans will be stuck cleaning up after Magaโ€™s destructive streak because men like this never clean up after themselves"

Our mistake was to think we lived in a better country than we do. Our mistake was to see the joy, the extraordinary balance between idealism and pragmatism, the energy, the generosity, the coalition-building of the Kamala Harris campaign and think that it must triumph over the politics of lies and resentment. Our mistake was to think that racism and misogyny were not as bad as they are, whether it applied to who was willing to vote for a supremely qualified Black woman or who was willing to vote for an adjudicated rapist and convicted criminal who admires Hitler. Our mistake was to think we could row this boat across the acid lake before the acid dissolved it.

We knew what the problems were, and we wanted to fix them. The principal problems that got us to this bleakest moment in American history are intertwined. They are the crisis of masculinity, the failure of the mainstream news media and the rise of Silicon Valley, and in a way they are all the same problem....

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/07/us-progressive-election-trump-maga

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(Rebecca Solnit, b.1961, a Jewish feminist writer whose formative years were mostly in the California San Francisco Bay Area. She has been an 'activist' since the late 1980s. An exemplar of one wing of the Blue-Elite coalition.)
Moderator
Friday - November 8th 2024 9:40PM MST
PS: "It's being reported that the effeminate left-wing leader of Canada, Justin Trudeau, has ordered preparations for the possibility of anti-Trump refugees flowing north into Canada."

We're not sending our best!

Had to get that out there... back to your most recent comment.
Hail
Friday - November 8th 2024 9:35PM MST
PS

-- How did Kamala get 48% of the total vote? --

"The mass media has had an influence on (even) me on this, as I tend to think of the "half the country" who supports this broad. It is indeed a lot more sane situation than that."

The U.S. party system is stable enough, and well-managed enough, and people are socialized into the system from birth, such as to give any bozo or bozoette an absolute rock-solid 40% and likely more like 45%. The same for the other side's candidate. The 10% or 15% in the middle, and 'turnout' for the two more-or-less stable coalitions, then "decide" the election. And as the D-party is the System-party, really the inner-Regime party (the R-party a loyal opposition), their default may be to have the advantage, say, 45%-40% these days (with the White share of vote down to 71%?). If an R candidate wins by 50%+, therefore, it must be considered a major win.

That is how the managed U.S. system works. The estimable and honorable Adam Smith, of Peak Stupidity, is the most anti-election of the regular commenters. His views reflect an awareness of the largely-managed nature of the U.S. system (but not entirely managed; the System-party and 'Regime' would have preferred Trump losses in 2016 and 2024, naturally).

If in a different system, a competitive multi-party system, a Kamala-like kandidate would just crash out, to zero, and be laughed off the stage. The U.S. has an imperfect version of a competitive multiparty-like system in the "primaries" (which themselves are still largely managed, as with the selection of Biden in early 2020 by internal party machinations). And when Kamala was in the field in those "primaries" in 2019, she flailed and faltered and failed fast, ending her campaign in shambles and shame by mid-late November 2019 (official drop-out, early December 2019).

The selection of Kamala, the worst major-party candidate in U.S history, and her 48% of the vote, is not a judgement against voters, or White voters (most of whom, in voting, are merely participating in a civic ritual akin to church attendance or watching the town Fourth of July parade, say). The real target of blame, or scorn, is the system that could allow for such a person to 'nearly' be elected U.S. president.
Hail
Friday - November 8th 2024 9:24PM MST
PS

-- U.S. refugees to Canada --

It's being reported that the effeminate left-wing leader of Canada, Justin Trudeau, has ordered preparations for the possibility of anti-Trump refugees flowing north into Canada.

"NDTV: Trump Tracker: Canada On 'High Alert', Braces For Migrants Fleeing US After Trump Win."
Hail
Friday - November 8th 2024 9:21PM MST
PS

-- White Dudes For Harris down in flames; lessons? --

Sorry for subjecting you, Mr. Moderator, to the "White Dudes For Harris" supporter Mr. Boogie's instant reaction-moment, twelve seconds though it was.

The Internet of the 2020s is chock-full of stupid short 'reaction' clips like that, often via TikTok now, which are usually mental-psychological versions of sugar-filled, chemical-laced snacks of the lowest order. But this one, the 12-second snippet of Mr. Boogie's election night 2024, feels to me like it encapsulates something important. There is a lot that is aesthetically perfect in the shot, that informs us something about our times, our politics, the state of the White Man (as it were), especially when contrasted with Mr. Boogie's own Kamala komments that were not at all favorable to Kamala.

Some among us could write hundreds of words on the matter. But as for me, now some days after the smoke has begun to clear, I remain in the mood to write to capture and highlight such little-noticed things: the dramatic squirrel appearance during the Kamala "defeat" speech feels like an even more-perfect symbol of 2024, somehow. It's hard to believe that a single pro-Trump squirrel, like Peanut, could have had this level of influence.
Moderator
Friday - November 8th 2024 7:39AM MST
PS: Hello, Al Corrupt! That'd be killing 2 squirrels, OK, how about birds, with 1 stone. I like it.

Your ode to Mr. Peanut is touching, Mr. Hail. Your video of the crazy Boogie-Man, even for 12 seconds was much too much, in the words of MAGA-man. That guy is insane, which might explain why he was still in "White Dudes for Harris" when he knew she had nothing going for her (as he stated in your excerpt).

This Mr. Krauss, OTOH, doesn't sound insane but just so unaware. I gather... ooops, I was about to look him up and then noticed you'd written "Theoretical Physicist" AFTER I was going to remark... "he's a scientist of some sort". There you go. So, he's aware of all the stupidity within his field but totally unaware of the rest of it going on in the culture, economy, other areas of endeavor, whatever. It's like that Gell-Mann thing, but a very intense example.

I should also add that Alarmist's point on the financial cost-benefit of illegal aliens, not taking into account the more important factor of the Population Replacement goal, is another good one. People have tried to account for the cost, but I think they miss many things - they usually just look at welfare, emergency room usage, massive increases in school budgets, etc. Even financially, there is more to the net drain than that. In comparison, $15,000 is Peanuts. (Ooops, sorry, guys.)

Mr. Smith, no, people have just dropped all this Constitutional requirement "nonsense". I would not be surprised if an illegal alien himself who's been one of those Valedictorians and been a big shot would run next time. (We should deport him first, of course!) Trump didn't bring up the situation with Kameltoe probably because of the 12-year ago deal with his bringing up the problems with Obama. It shouldn't have, because I still don't know, but being called a "Birther" was something he perhaps wisely decided to avoid. We're pretty far gone when you can't invoke the obvious easy-to-read Law of the Land.
Moderator
Friday - November 8th 2024 7:20AM MST
PS: I don't know about the "dumbing down", Mr. Hail. Maybe we don't have the George Will and Bill Buckley erudite types who sound great on TV. We have your MTG's and Matt Gaetz's though, who sometimes come off wacky when they go a bit too far on the conspiracy theory stuff (they may very well be right on almost all of it, but they get off-track sometimes). However, rather that the Buckley's who can argue very well but want to stay in the system, MTG calls out the uniParty - on the floor of the Congress.

Perhaps you and Mr. Sailer mean on the level of the average voter. I too, can't stand the infotainment of things like that RNC convention, of which I may have watched 2 minutes at the most from youtube clips.) That's not a great look. I think the MAGA base is much more aware of how bad and quickly we are being screwed, demographically, economically, and in other ways.

There are indeed grifters, errr, influencers(?), on youtube who are only in it for the clicks and LIKES, and $$ that comes with that.

Anyway, I wasn't trying to make a point about the White-Christian Left's self-reflection or lack thereof. I don't care if they don't self-reflect at all about what happened on Tuesday - that's good for us, unless said self-reflection was going to change their stance. I meant that there are those who push all the destruction on the country because they WANT it. That they lost because they went too far with the D.I.E. stuff and Commie tax-unrealized-gains* stuff, so they should... back off on that policy? Oh, maybe for just a while to get the heat off, but they WANT IT. They'll wait out another 4-years until the UniParty is ready for it. The hope is that MAGA is not like the UniParty and will stop things cold and even reverse it.

(I'll get into Trump's wild and crazy talk about substitution tariffs for the income tax in that financial doom post. Hey, I wrote myself in a post that the US Gov't worked that way damn well for 1/2 its lifetime. The numbers, based on current spending, don't work out at all, though - something I'll also written.

"OK, well Musk, Paul, and Co. will make the cuts to make it work", you say. Ahhh, now that's the rub - most of the spending goes into our economy, much directly to individuals, and backing out of Socialism is difficult - a bug or a feature? In other words, there HAS to be much financial pain to get out of the whole toward a very nice and AMERICAN way, with small government paid for by tariffs and such. Is Trump ready to be called the next Herbert Hoover? (Not really for the same reasons, as Hoover, from what I've read, was closer to an FDR-lite.)

That was way off my point, which is that there are people of the ctrl-left that don't want to ask "what policies of ours do the people hate?". What they hate doesn't matter to these Commies.


* That's just pure confiscation. It explains too how the Income Tax was a really bad idea, in just one more way. You get into people's complicated finances rather than just those W-2 and 1099 forms, and then "well, they're just cheating us by never selling the property. Loopholes! We should be able to get that money that they're gonna make later RIGHT NOW. We need it to help the poor."
Moderator
Friday - November 8th 2024 6:56AM MST
PS: I appreciate your run-down on the 4 categories of voters and non-voters, Mr. Hail. I know you went over this before, and I didn't comment than. Yeah, that only 67 million of all American adults (what, ~ 300 million of our now over 350 million people here) sounds a lot better, less than 25% of them voted for this waste of a human. "Oh, but some couldn't vote, cause illegal..." haha, doesn't mean too much to most of us, knowing what goes on.

Your taking the White adults, bringing it down to the mid teens in percentage, also makes a good point.

The mass media has had an influence on (even) me on this, as I tend to think of the "half the country" who supports this broad. It is indeed.a lot more sane situation than that.
Moderator
Friday - November 8th 2024 6:48AM MST
PS: I got very busy yesterday, so where to start? Firstly, thanks for all the comments under the last 3 posts guys!

Regarding the $15,000 deportations. Just as with the (what could easily have been only) $5 Billion dollar ballpark-figure serious 1,900 mile border barrier, the ctrl-left will bring up the money, as it's a big issue. Then they, well both sides, will talk about another Trillion $ here and there like it's nothing. Balderdash! That's just one tactic of the opposition, BSing people who can't do estimations and even more people who can't, nay, won't! do arithmetic.

Adam Smith kindly did the quick arithmetic - the quickest says simply $15 Billion deports a million, so go from there. Yes, your Ukraine example is a good one, Mr. Hail. Let's see, we could spend the money to help prop up a war 5,000 miles away that does NOTHING to help Americans or we could make a real dent, 1/2 to 1/3, say in sending home those who have broken into the country over the last few decades. (Personally, and unfortunately, I think the Trump admin. will go for the hard-core criminals, but then slack off as opposition builds.)

That said, well, written, I'm sure the $15,000 is highly inflated. Only 10% of that or less could cover the transportation. I imagine they are accounting for the cost to find and apprehend these people. Sure, on a one-off basis, with time spend by a couple of agents over days to do this, it's expensive. They'll be a major economy of scale to where the system can process these people for 25%, maybe even 10%, of that number.

Then, if the program gets serious - get as much as pulled over by the Highway Patrol for 10 mph over, and, no US citizenship, you're headed to jail to wait for the process - people will leave on their own. There'll be people ACTUALLY living in the shadows, but nobody wants to live under worrisome conditions like that. As the song say (though written with a different meaning from what I read) "I'm gonna walk before they make me run."
Hail
Friday - November 8th 2024 5:35AM MST
PS

Some good news for fans and sympathizers of Peanut the pro-Trump squirrel (r.i.p.):

During the Kamala concession speech (coming almost 24 hours after the close of voting), a curious scene unfolded. During a climactic moment, there it was. Seen darting across the stage. In all its miniature grace and dignity --- a squirrel. Pausing, as if for the cameras. A squirrel.

"Yes, you people can kill me. But the spirit, it lives on. The spirit of Peanut The Squirrel will triumph over the Kamalas of the world, by the Grace of the God of men and squirrels alike, brothers, we shall defeat them."

Kamala killed Peanut the Squirrel. The squirrel's mischievous and conspicuous presence at the defeated Kamala's speech is a classic "laughs-best-who-laughs-last moment."

Rumor has it that some among those present at the Kamala Koncession were able to hear, rustling in the wind, a few more words, faintly, and in a chip-chirpy voice, from somewhere out of the ether. Just after Kamala konceded, the initiated were able to hear it: "I am Peanut, and I approve this message."
Corrupt
Thursday - November 7th 2024 3:28PM MST
PS

Mr. Smith, I suggest combining the two thingsโ€ฆ deport illegals to Ukraine!
The Alarmist
Thursday - November 7th 2024 3:17PM MST
PS

To paraphrase Conan the Warrior, driving the invaders before us and hearing the lamentations of their women would be worth $15k a head... not to mention, $15k a pop is a lot cheaper than the recurring costs (direct and externalities) of keeping them in the USA.

Trump needs to be liked, so it is unlikely he really has the resolve, but it made good boob bait for us bubbas who cling to our hope of a better America. I donโ€™t need great, better, cleaner, safer, politer, and nicer would be just fine.

My condolences to your Mrs. and you, Mr. Smith.

โœ๏ธ
Adam Smith
Thursday - November 7th 2024 2:54PM MST
PS: Greetings, Mr. Hail!

https://i.ibb.co/Nn4HRk6/Deportation-2024.jpg

๐ป๐‘œ๐‘ค ๐‘š๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘ฆ ๐‘๐‘œ๐‘ข๐‘™๐‘‘ ๐‘๐‘’ ๐‘ ๐‘’๐‘›๐‘ก ๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘๐‘˜ ๐‘“๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ $200,000,000,000 ๐‘–๐‘› ๐‘‘๐‘–๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘๐‘ก ๐‘Ž๐‘–๐‘‘ ๐‘ก๐‘œ ๐‘ˆ๐‘˜๐‘Ÿ๐‘Ž๐‘–๐‘›๐‘’ ๐‘ ๐‘œ ๐‘“๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ?

13.3(333333) million. (Give or take a few.) But I don't think the cost of mass deportation is the largest obstacle. (There's always plenty of money for war or to bail out the banks or whatever and they can always conjure some more out of the aether with the magic money printer.) I think political will is the largest hurdle/problem to overcome.

Mass deportation would involve rounding up, interning, transporting and deporting many millions of people. Does Trump have the resolve to follow through with such a plan? (I doubt it.) And if he does, I imagine that we can look forward to more than a few videos of Mexican ladies and their children crying on the TV. How many American's are ready to steel their hearts and prepare themselves for such an onslaught of mass deportation atrocity propaganda? I suppose we may find out.(?)

๐ท๐‘–๐‘‘ โ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘ก๐‘Ž๐‘˜๐‘’ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐ถ๐‘œ๐‘ฃ๐‘–๐‘‘ ๐‘ฃ๐‘Ž๐‘๐‘๐‘–๐‘›๐‘’? ๐ผ๐‘“ ๐‘ ๐‘œ, โ„Ž๐‘œ๐‘ค ๐‘š๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘ฆ ๐‘–๐‘›๐‘—๐‘’๐‘๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘ ?

Yes. Unfortunately, he did. At least two, maybe three. Mrs. Smith and I both suspect that the covid jab led to the (turbo) cancer. Timing is right, and it's probably not a coincidence. We never mentioned it to him though. We figured that there was no point in doing so. We have our suspicions, but we will never (truly) know for sure.

We encouraged him at the time not to take it, but his wife is a hardcore vaxxer. He took the shot to keep peace in the house. I know he had a bad reaction to at least one of the shots, and after the last jab he was done. He didn't take any after that, but (we suspect) the damage was already done.

Thanks for the in depth (s)election coverage. I didn't know who "won" until I was reading through the comments under the previous post yesterday evening. I'm glad Kamala the horrible didn't win if for no other reason than the precedent that could be (would be) (may be) set by having an anchorbaby as president (s)elect. She is not a natural born citizen, and therefore not eligible to the office, not that anyone really seems to care about such things these days. I haven't heard a peep out of anyone concerning her anchorbaby status or her ineligibility because her parents were not citizens at the time of her birth. I suppose there might be a few people who voted for Trump or someone else for that reason alone, but I kind of doubt it.

Anyway... I'm going to go read the rest of the comments and I'll catch you guys later.

I hope you have a great evening, Mr. Hail! ๐Ÿ™‚ โ˜ฎ๏ธ

Hail
Thursday - November 7th 2024 11:42AM MST
PS

-- Whither diversity initiatives? --

Theoretical physicist Lawrence M. Krauss, a New York Jew by origin (b.1954), has called Trump "a nut, a liar, and a crook." But now he says he looks forward to a revival of science under Trump 2025-29.

After the Trump-2024 election was announced even by NBC and CNN and others, Dr Krauss said it was "sad news for the world." Then, a few hours later, the morning after the election, Krauss reconsiders a little, writing:

___________

Looking on the bright side... Elon Musk and co. can replace heads of U.S. science agencies, who have wasted enormous sums and manpower on divisive, dysfunctional, and misplaced diversity initiatives, to return nationโ€™s focus to supporting science and innovation.
___________

(similar in spirit to the Sailer correspondent top-twelve list.)
Hail
Thursday - November 7th 2024 11:04AM MST
PS

-- "White Dudes For Harris" backer on why Kamala lost --

A popular Youtube streamer named @Boogie2988, who was a supporter of the White Dudes For Harris group, in election-night frustration gave this appraisal of why Kamala came up short:

__________

(quote from Boogie2988)

Kamala had no personality. She had no policies. The only thing she could run on was: "I'm not Trump." That's it! That was the entire goddamn campaign!

I watched all of these different content-creators, The Daily Show -- I watched all this political s**t every day. The only thing they did was s***-talk Trump. Not a single goddamn time did I see John Oliver, or The Daily Show, or any of these f****ng programs tell me ONE GOOD THING about Kamala.

How the f*** do you win the presidency, without ONE good goddamn thing about you? You can't! It's as simple as that.

Next time, Democrats, put up an actual candidate!

It should have been Bernie...

(end quote from Boogie2988)

______________
.

The above was the man's measured commentary, sometime in the 1am hour EST of election-night, I think. It was delivered on his group live-stream on Youtube, maybe a half hour after the early returns were enough to convince him and his fellow White Dudes For Harris supporters that Trump would win with almost-total certainty.

Around late in the 12am hour or early in the 1am hour, the same man (Boogie2988) was seen doing this on his Youtube live-stream:

https://x.com/KEEMSTAR/status/1854033822167236784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTCcssocy2Q

PLEASE WATCH THE ABOVE CLIP, a twelve-second clip showing the moment that he, and his White Dudes For Harris election-trackers, realized "the game was up" and that Trump was going to win.
Hail
Thursday - November 7th 2024 10:52AM MST
PS

-- on Elite Left's lack of self-reflection --

re: Arclight's comments.

It's a shame, to me, that the whole Trump-MAGA movement is so heavy with con-men and self-promoters. (I see Vivek this way and cannot 'unsee' it; a quintessential case of a sleek self-promoter conning and sweet-talking his way to success, exploiting the Based Brown Guy market-demand). So full of Internet trolls, and people who tend to rail against "elites" without having any specific people or even ideas or policies in mind when they do so.

In other words, the Sailer criticism that Trump "dumbed down the Republican Party" is valid and correct, and even many of even the histrionic-type criticism's of the Left against Trump and co. are correct or partly correct. There is a human capital problem with these people which is a real problem, and of course was the problem in winter 2016-17 when "staffing" questions were raised, and throughout the four years of Trump First Term.

I think this is a key to understanding the White-Christian-origin Left's lack of self-reflection. They get locked into seeing the Trump movement as purely and totally a product of the con-men types that have attached themselves to it, and that agitates their minds and clouds their thinking too much to reflect on why MAGA had such an appeal.

It's been a great frustration ever since 2016, that the anti-Trump elite refuses to evaluate why Trump won. As Hillary said: "I can't believe I'm not ahead by fifty points!"

Another reason for lack of self-reflection is that doing so tends to be a White-Western thing, and important elements of the Left coalition are not of that ethnocultural-intellectual tradition at all, but are more like vendetta-pursuing Middle-Easterners for whom ends always justify means, and who are addicted to undermining host-societies, or, more charitably put, advancing their own intersts at the host-society's expense.
Hail
Thursday - November 7th 2024 10:40AM MST
PS

Mr. Smith, on the saw new of your brother-in-law's "turbo cancer": Did he take the Covid vaccine? If so, how many injections?
Hail
Thursday - November 7th 2024 10:38AM MST
PS

"The R and D coalition voters cane be subdivided into"

CORRECTION: should be (1a.) and (1b.) and (2a.) and (2b.), respectively.

(1a.) (Always-D voters) remained, because of the inertia of the political-party system. (1b.) (Swing voters voting D) was at minimal levels.

(2a.) (Always-R voters) remained as usual, and (2b.) was present in some force.
Hail
Thursday - November 7th 2024 10:34AM MST
PS

"This election mattered in that, were this vapid, Communist-inspired, D.I.E. broad to have taken the Presidency, I'd have had real disgust for the people of those who supported and voted for her"

You quote some percentages but it's worth remembering there are always four classes of adult citizen w.r.t. these elections:

(1.) D-coalition candidate voters (who cast votes)


(2.) R-coalition candidate voters (who cast votes)

(3.) Oddball third-party voters (generally, civic-ritual participators knowing full well they have no influence; a particular kind of "protest voters")

(4.) Nonvoters.

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The R and D coalition voters cane be subdivided into:

-- (1a.) and (2a.): People who unreflectively vote for the party they've always voted for, all the time (1a., being always-D voters); they do it out of personal-identity, family-tradition, local identity, social-peer pressure, and civic ritual; much in the way people support Local Sports Team without thinking too much about it.

-- (1b.) and (2b.): "Swing voters" who shift between categories (1.), (2.), and (4.).

----

The thing is, whatever Kamala's final "popular vote" total will be among Whites of European-Christian origin (40m? 45m max?), it's a thin coalition of (1a.) voters and really very few others. She had no enthusiastic supporters, that I can see.

A lot of the outer parts of "potential D voters" in 2024 fall into either (4.) (Nonvoters), or (2b.) (R-voting "swing voters").

In other words, "voted for her" and "supported her" are not the same thing, because the (1a.) category is dominated by always-D voters who are always-D for any number of personal reasons (someone in his seventies in 2024 may still think of the D party as that which it was, or felt like, in the 1960s-1980s, say). In a Trump election case, it's also that a lot were voting against Trump. I don't know that ANY-one voted affirmatively "for Kamala," which is being touted as a reason she lost.

Quoting percentages can be deceiving, especially because of the high number of Nonvoters.

White adult citizens in 2024: 150m?
- R voters: 58m?
- D voters: 41m? (heavy on the civic-ritual always-D voters)
- Third-party voters: 1m?
- Nonvotes: 50m?

(These are 'ballpark' numbers in all cases, for one thing because final vote-totals are weeks away due to slowness of counting in many states.)

The 41m of these Whites (ca. 27% of all White adult citizens) are more concentrated in certain areas and social milieus, and outside those areas and milieus it'll often be down closer to a 1-in-6 range who cast a vote for her.
Hail
Thursday - November 7th 2024 10:08AM MST
PS

Re: deportations

Some media, possible CNN, has been circulating the figure that deporting one immigrant in 2025 may cost $15,000 (inflation-adjusted), when all is said and done. This, they say, obviously proves that deportations of millions is something financially impossible and so should not be attempted.

I say: How many could be sent back for the $200,000,000,000 in direct aid to Ukraine so far?
Adam Smith
Thursday - November 7th 2024 9:55AM MST
PS: Thanks, Achmed,

We knew this was coming, and we weren't surprised. Over the weekend the hospice workers estimated that he had just a few days left. Mrs. Smith had a flight booked for next week to go see him, but it looks like there is no point in taking that trip now.

3 months on firewood seems a bit short if you're going to burn it in your fireplace. It's probably fine for campfire wood. There's lots of factors in how long it takes firewood to season. (Type of wood, how wet it is, how it's stored, relative humidity while it is seasoning, you get the idea.) Some hardwoods take almost a year to properly season for the fireplace. You could always test some in an outside fire to see how it burns before you take it inside.

Thanks again, Achmed.

And Happy Thursday! ๐Ÿ™‚ โ˜ฎ๏ธ


Moderator
Thursday - November 7th 2024 9:45AM MST
PS: "My go to for all the latest breaking news." Haha, how's that been working out for you?

I am sorry to hear about your brother-in-law, Adam. I'm looking forward to some fires myself, both outdoors and in the fireplace. Got plenty of wood lately - what does it need, 3 months, maybe, to dry out?
Adam Smith
Thursday - November 7th 2024 9:31AM MST
PS: Good morning, Gentlemen,

๐‘‡๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฆ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ 0.5 ๐‘˜๐‘” ๐‘‘๐‘œ๐‘ ๐‘’ ๐‘“๐‘–๐‘Ÿ๐‘ ๐‘ก...

Wowsers! That's like a pound of medicine.

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๐ด๐‘›๐‘‘... โ„Ž๐‘’๐‘™๐‘™๐‘œ ๐ด๐‘‘๐‘Ž๐‘š ๐‘†๐‘š๐‘–๐‘กโ„Ž! ๐‘Œ๐‘œ๐‘ข ๐‘š๐‘ข๐‘ ๐‘ก ๐‘๐‘’ ๐‘ก๐‘Ž๐‘˜๐‘–๐‘›๐‘” ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘–๐‘  ๐‘ค๐‘’๐‘™๐‘™... ๐‘ก๐‘œ๐‘œ ๐‘ค๐‘’๐‘™๐‘™ ๐‘ก๐‘œ ๐‘ค๐‘Ÿ๐‘–๐‘ก๐‘’?

https://i.ibb.co/3vmf9Rz/Giant-Asteroid.jpg

Well, I was going to write about this under the last post, but it seems like it might as well go here...

I meant to write in a bit, and I've enjoyed reading all the comments (35 under the last post!) but honestly, I paid no attention to the selection. I didn't even know the outcome until I checked in with PeakStupidity yesterday around 5pm. (My go to for all the latest breaking news.)

Truth is, Tuesday morning we learned that Mrs. Smith's brother died from the bladder cancer that he was diagnosed with about 6 months ago. Once the cancer took hold and went systemic he went downhill really fast.

So instead of paying any attention to the selection, Mrs. Smith and I bought a bottle of bourbon to celebrate his life, and mourn his passing. (Which was rather ambitious of us as we have not had a drop of adult beverage in more than a month. Rolling back the odometer so to say.) A couple drinks in I decided that a nice huge fire was in order. I mean, what good is a celebration of life without a nice huge fire?

Long story short, we drank too much bourbon and stayed up way too late. (We didn't go to bed until sometime after 5am.) By the end of the night we were singing along with some songs on the youtube. We were also a bit wobbly.

I'm pretty sure the fire burned well into yesterday. There might even be hot coals out there right now if I stir the ashes around.(?) And yesterday, well, I didn't really do anything. Just recovered from the night before. And I went to bed somewhat early.

I probably have some memes around here that would be apropos under the last post, but we are headed out to Gainesville here shortly, so they'll have to wait for now.

Anyway... Good to see you posting again, Achmed.
And it's nice to see everyone's comments.

Cheers to another beautiful Thursday. ๐Ÿ™‚ โ˜ฎ๏ธ
Moderator
Thursday - November 7th 2024 8:59AM MST
PS: What color is the pill you just took, Alarmist? Did you ask your doctor if it was right for you? ;-}

Yeah, see, that the stuff that I see too, but can we beat back the Globalism as Americans with some powerful like-minded people on our side? (I forgot to mention Tucker in this post.)

Yeah, "Ten Years Gone" Thanks. We should probably also listen to "When the Levy Breaks" Are people gonna weep and moan? I think so...

Your scenario is not out of the question at all.
The Alarmist
Thursday - November 7th 2024 8:48AM MST
PS

โ€œ... and what should never be. Isn't that a Led Zeppelin song? Well, almost - my chronic lyricosis is flaring up again.โ€

+++++

16 June 2025 will mark the tenth anniversary of Mr. Trumpโ€™s famous ride down the escalator, so maybe โ€œTen Years Goneโ€ would be more fitting, certainly in the broader context of your post.

The future:

Ukraine falls in 2025.

Its default on its debt triggers guarantees given by the UK and several European countries, causing financial crisis in all of them.

This triggers financial crash in US (Chinese are hurt too), while Mr. Putin enjoys his popcorn.

Bad Orange Man has health crisis and/or dies.

Vance and his oligarch surveillance-industry buddies are thrust into control.

UST establishes digital currency, requires all Americans to maintain accounts and transact only in that currency with approved providers of such accounts. (The Fed could easily be eliminated in this scenario, hence I do not call it a CBDC... the bankers are a problem, not a solution).

No US election in 2028 due to widespread civil unrest.

US breaks up by 2030.

Mr. Putin dies blisfully in his sleep in 2039 as the best leader Russia had since Catherine the Great. Mr. Xi follows him a few years later.
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