Posted On: Tuesday - November 5th 2024 7:52AM MST
In Topics: Commies Elections '16 - '24 Trump Preppers and Prepping Economics The Future ctrl-left Deep State Karmakarma Kameleon
The AI meme above is a good metaphor. I never did get it straight whether some of the mass of Haitians recently inserted into small-town Ohio ate a few cats, whether they were dogs instead, or how many, if so. Because the Lyin' Press arm of the Regime has made so many disdainful denials, I tend to believe this goes on.
That's not the point, though ('less it were our cat!) That there are large influxes of highly-foreign, stereotypically violent-prone "refugees" placed AT WILL, at any time, to culturally DESTROY any piece of small-town America the Potomac Regime wants to destroy is the point. I don't know if the fact that this Springfield, Ohio story got so big, with its cover story about "eating the cats and dogs"*, but really being about this evil practice of Targeted Cultural Destruction, is good or bad. It's great that people can see the evil in what's going on. It might be a sign, though, the those running this show think they've got it all under control and don't care what we think anymore. (Maybe that's good too, because I think otherwise - just got $1,300 worth of ammo from the gun show.**)
So, is Trump going to "save the country"? COULD Trump even save the country, were he not the egotistical unfocused showman that he is? No. I like that Trump got Ron Paul on-board, probably a smart move even just campaign-wise, but even Ron Paul, with 300 clones of himself in the House and 51 in the Senate could not get us out of the financial abyss we are slipping down into (America's legs are catching the edge right now).*** There's going to be trouble first.
I've written much of the following before, somewhere (CAN'T FIND IT!): Evey election is supposedly "THE! MOST! IMPORTANT! EVAH!" Is that really the case for '24? (THIS '24, we mean, not the last.) At this point, we are at that Banana Republican stage, though. Unlike in previous times, in which just a few steps may be taken away from the Constitutional Republic ideal that only policy wonks may notice, the people, as in some Nicaraguan election, must be prepared for big changes, depending on who wins this. As with Nicaragua, violence is expected.
For example, I'd say that the 1964 election was very important, though we'd have to vote on other "most important" candidates in the comments. We've gotta go back 6 decades rather than a nice round half-century due to multiples of 4, but also, yes, to me this one mattered.
Barry Goldwater was against the Civil Rites overriding of the Constitution, for, just that reason, Constitutionalism. (Out in Arizona, I doubt he had many dealings with the Black! population.) Lyndon Johnson was a Socialist Scumbag who ended up administering 3 evils: the immigration invasion, anti-White-Men Civil Rights, and a huge increase in the Welfare State, yes all in one 4-year term, no less! Yet, Goldwater, a Libertarian who'd have staved off all of that for decades, lost bigly due to his likely getting us involved in foreign wars, in like, IndoChina or something... Oh, and he was bound to get the world blown up by nukes, at least per the worries about that little girl in the commercial.
No, I wasn't watching the election returns in 1964, much less voting, but I know the story from my Mom. My Dad was very hopeful still, by 6 P or so... "Wait 'till they get west of the Mississippi!", he said. (I don't want to guess which way my Mom voted - she might not have told anyone!)
I wrote that this one mattered, but that mattering was in the long run during those old days. People such as my Dad**** could see what was coming. That '64 election caused so much destruction of this country, but in the future. So, the next day - and it was the next day, or even before you went to sleep - one knew this wasn't good at all, but life was still good in "These United States" or FOR these United States, for a good while to come. The results of the stupidity of the American voters in 1964 did not show up in their faces.
This time, it will.
Commenter E.H. Hail and other pundits that he's noted in the comments have written that this Kamela character is not an American in anything but paperwork. We should also remember who her Dad was, a flat-out admitted Communist. He was a reasonably smart guy - he could write papers in Economics, though the subject of his papers were on the blackety-black and Commie side. Kamela is too stupid to discuss any of the details of economic and cultural destruction, but, beyond the cackling and retarded word salad, she'll lean that way hard. That's the problem - since she has no actual serious thoughts of her own, the Deep State will find it that much easier to get its way. It's way is toward Globalism and Communism, hence Global Communism, meaning the complete destruction of the White Middle Class in America.
No matter how effective he actually is, it's obvious that the Regime and the Deep State are not confident they can have their way with Trump in office. I'm sure they especially don't like who he's associated himself with lately, and I don't mean just the cats, dogs, squirrels and garbage men. We'll see how far Trump, Musk, Jr.*****, Tulsi, and Dr. Paul can go, but without a political strategy, I'm not confident myself.
Trump cares about and works for Americans, something we haven't seen in a while and can't be said about the cackling idiot Kameltoe. If he doesn't start right off with what he CAN do, pardoning the J-6 protesters, I won't be hopeful. Just as important is a border AND deportation plan, to be implemented either via emergency authority, something quite justified during an invasion, or worked out with the States. He will be blocked every way the ctrl-left can think of, which is why Trump and his gang should not plan on playing by the rules.
I noted above that the economic devastation coming is inevitable, no matter who wins. Debt of various forms, interest due on it, and the inflation coming do not lend themselves to a closed-form solution (haha!) What can't go on, won't go on. I'm talking to you, US dollar. I've got four points on this:
1) Some real changes made with the help of Ron Paul and Elon Musk, in the bureaucratic mess of the Feral Gov't, will not save the economy. However, it will sure cheer many of us up to see the Feral Beast get poked at.
2) What will occur with Trump getting elected is an increase, albeit temporary, in economic confidence. I myself will make a decision on some real estate ideas based on the results. (In some ways, the election of Kameltoe wil make it easier - just start the bugging-out process now, eliminating a bunch of work on some property.) People are more likely to make plans for improvements in their lives when things are more stable. Things won't be stable with the Commies in office. They never are... till everyone but the few big honchos reaches a stable equilibrium of deep poverty...
3) President Trump will get the blame put on him if the crash happens on his "watch". I don't see how it possibly won't happen in the next 4 years, but then, in '10 I thought it'd be all over by '15. Perhaps the ctrl-left picked a loser like Kameltoe knowing that this will happen. I should not give them credit for being that bright though. I usually know better.
4) Once we are in a state of financial turmoil, political turmoil will go along with it. I don't know if we'd be better or worse with Trump, based on (3) above. Though it's far too late - Ron Paul even so much as admitted this at the bottom of one of his recent columns - to fix things without pain first, it'd surely be nice to have someone near the top with a voice explaining what's the cause of our coming misery.
Otherwise, I know what will happen. They've done if before over the last century numerous times. The Communists will shout from the rooftops the story that this evil Capitalism (who knew??) that we've been experiencing has caused the ruination. Something else should be tried. Yeah, well, it wasn't implemented right in Russia, China, Cuba, Cambodia, Venezuela.... zzzzz... but THIS TIME, Communism is the answer. That's the ticket. When people see that their money (haha, I mean dollars) is gone, they're trading their couch for cases of baked beans, and their kids aren't safe anywhere, their desperation may very well lead them to believe that shit.
People are counting on that. We need guys like Ron Paul to explain the evil of the FED, unsound money, and Global finance BEFORE the SHTF. Surely Donald Trump won't be able to explain this. He's better when he cooks fries, hauls garbage, and saves the cats and dogs. Oh, and let us not forget about poor little Peanut (actually a great example of our Police State - might clue the guy in a little bit even).
"Be Prepared" is the Boy Scout motto. It appears in our title because some kind of hell will be raised by the ctrl-left if Trump wins, and our side might be ready if he loses based on obvious massive cheating again (discussed very well by Adam Smith especially in the comments under our previous post). This is not 1964. During and after this election, we must be prepared, for anything.
PS: It might sound like I've got a big head about my blog, but that's not the case, when I say, please don't get your hopes up about my writing again regularly. This one was supposed to be just the 2 memes. However, Peak Stupidity started up just after the election of '16, so I figure I'd write something on this important day... week? 2 months? We'll see.
* I don't want to put that song in our readers' heads right now, the one by that soy-boi-adjacent Kiffness guy, though he did a nice job with it (especially in getting himself famous and raking in some ad bucks). The thing is, I STILL don't know who's side he's actually on regarding the story - true or false about the cats and dogs, or pro/anti invasion.
** I got a thousand or two rifle rounds from a friendly black guy who reckoned turnout was low there due to it being just before the election. "Yeah, but I'm getting some now, because I don't know, and if Kameltoe wins..." "Oh, yeah, it'll double. She is going to try to take the guns", he remarked.
*** Dr. Paul is really glad, and NOT for his ego, that he'll at least get to have a say on the Feral Beast's spending. That's "a say", as he'd be the first to tell you - but why break the bad news to Trump? - that the President doesn't get to do all this. The financial and Constitutional truths that Ron Paul discusses will get a much wider audience at least... hopefully helping out AFTER the financial, and likely political, SHTF.
**** I hope I'm respecting his memory by donating regularly decent amounts to the John Birch Society, of which I've been a member. I'd heard of them from him, whenever he'd mention hard-core Conservatives, in a good light, that is. If he wasn't ever a member, I think that'd have been only due to money.
***** RFK, Jr, IS against the system. However, only part of it, the corrupt Pharma and healthcare industries is what he's against. He's stupidly still going along with the Climate Calamity™ nonsense. I give kudos to Trump for (in the Rogan interview) being clear that RFK, Jr. would be his advisor or employee for only certain issues and not others.
Comments:
Moderator
Thursday - November 7th 2024 8:47AM MST
PS: And... hello Adam Smith! You must be taking this well... too well to write?
Oh, to Mr. Kief, I should have used the word "refutation". No I don't think analysis of Pres. Election '24 will involve refutation of the Sailer strategy. There was just other stuff going on, like a candidate that just could not be put up with, on an interracial, interethnic, inter-everything basis.
As Mr. Hail says, she must be the worst candidate EVER. I haven't done any checking, but I'll go with that.
Oh, to Mr. Kief, I should have used the word "refutation". No I don't think analysis of Pres. Election '24 will involve refutation of the Sailer strategy. There was just other stuff going on, like a candidate that just could not be put up with, on an interracial, interethnic, inter-everything basis.
As Mr. Hail says, she must be the worst candidate EVER. I haven't done any checking, but I'll go with that.
Moderator
Thursday - November 7th 2024 6:39AM MST
PS:
"For which vowels can you think of a word with three instances of that vowel, but no others. So, tollbooth would count, but virginity would not. Can you find one with three 'o's but no "double" 'o's?"
Robert, I'd read your comment yesterday but I am not good with these kinds of questions - not that kind of memory.
Moderator LIKED "Giant Asteroid 2024" ;-}
Good morning.
"For which vowels can you think of a word with three instances of that vowel, but no others. So, tollbooth would count, but virginity would not. Can you find one with three 'o's but no "double" 'o's?"
Robert, I'd read your comment yesterday but I am not good with these kinds of questions - not that kind of memory.
Moderator LIKED "Giant Asteroid 2024" ;-}
Good morning.
Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 11:34PM MST
PS
-- Ann Coulter's summary of election --
Published today:
.
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Black Girl Magic Beaten by White Male Competence: DEI Meets the Secret Ballot
Ann Coulter
Nov 07, 2024
In retrospect, maybe running the DEI hire for president was not a good idea. (...)
Inasmuch as the sole motivating factor of the modern Democratic Party is identity politics, Democrats were forced to drop their plans for a stronger candidate, like Govs. Josh Shapiro or Andy Beshear. No Democrat would dare suggest that Kamala was not absolutely the most qualified person for the job. Just look at her -- a woman AND a minority!
Harris' race and gender was how Biden got stuck with her in the first place -- an amazing choice for VP, considering that she'd accused him of racism during the primary, and also that she hadn't won a single vote.
This is how Democrats ended up running a dingbat who'd cheered on the BLM riots, enthusiastically released violent criminals from prison, insisted on taxpayer-funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal aliens, compared ICE agents to the Ku Klux Klan, completely believed Jussie Smollett’s hoax hate crime, supported defunding the police and said she wanted to decriminalize illegal immigration.
Indeed, Harris was the lead player in the administration's decision to defy federal law and fling open the border, sending millions of foreign criminals and mental patients to every corner of America.
The Democrats' obsession with dragging in the third world is itself part of the party's DEI framework. Why do we have to admit tens of thousands of people from Haiti and the Congo? Because they're black.
When Biden and Harris came in, DEI was instantly made the priority of every government organ -- the military, NASA, FEMA, the judiciary and on and on. An astonishing 66% of Biden's judicial appointees have been nonwhite. Even Barack Obama only managed to get up to 37%. Biden's one Supreme Court appointee was, of course, a black woman, despite the fact that only 2% of nation's lawyers are black women. But he'd promised during the primaries to exclude 98% of lawyers from his consideration. (...)
Kamala is the perfect representative of today's Democratic Party. Her entire life has been one affirmative action promotion after another. She even got into law school on the basis of her race -- as the law school has bragged. And this week, she almost made it to the top on the basis of her race and gender, without doing, let alone achieving, anything. (...)
The problem with liberals using intimidation tactics to bully people into staying quiet about the incompetence of DEI hires is that the only way they ever had to register an objection was in the privacy of a voting booth. And on Tuesday, boy, did they.
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https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/black-girl-magic-beaten-by-white
-- Ann Coulter's summary of election --
Published today:
.
_____________
Black Girl Magic Beaten by White Male Competence: DEI Meets the Secret Ballot
Ann Coulter
Nov 07, 2024
In retrospect, maybe running the DEI hire for president was not a good idea. (...)
Inasmuch as the sole motivating factor of the modern Democratic Party is identity politics, Democrats were forced to drop their plans for a stronger candidate, like Govs. Josh Shapiro or Andy Beshear. No Democrat would dare suggest that Kamala was not absolutely the most qualified person for the job. Just look at her -- a woman AND a minority!
Harris' race and gender was how Biden got stuck with her in the first place -- an amazing choice for VP, considering that she'd accused him of racism during the primary, and also that she hadn't won a single vote.
This is how Democrats ended up running a dingbat who'd cheered on the BLM riots, enthusiastically released violent criminals from prison, insisted on taxpayer-funded sex change operations for prisoners and illegal aliens, compared ICE agents to the Ku Klux Klan, completely believed Jussie Smollett’s hoax hate crime, supported defunding the police and said she wanted to decriminalize illegal immigration.
Indeed, Harris was the lead player in the administration's decision to defy federal law and fling open the border, sending millions of foreign criminals and mental patients to every corner of America.
The Democrats' obsession with dragging in the third world is itself part of the party's DEI framework. Why do we have to admit tens of thousands of people from Haiti and the Congo? Because they're black.
When Biden and Harris came in, DEI was instantly made the priority of every government organ -- the military, NASA, FEMA, the judiciary and on and on. An astonishing 66% of Biden's judicial appointees have been nonwhite. Even Barack Obama only managed to get up to 37%. Biden's one Supreme Court appointee was, of course, a black woman, despite the fact that only 2% of nation's lawyers are black women. But he'd promised during the primaries to exclude 98% of lawyers from his consideration. (...)
Kamala is the perfect representative of today's Democratic Party. Her entire life has been one affirmative action promotion after another. She even got into law school on the basis of her race -- as the law school has bragged. And this week, she almost made it to the top on the basis of her race and gender, without doing, let alone achieving, anything. (...)
The problem with liberals using intimidation tactics to bully people into staying quiet about the incompetence of DEI hires is that the only way they ever had to register an objection was in the privacy of a voting booth. And on Tuesday, boy, did they.
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https://anncoulter.substack.com/p/black-girl-magic-beaten-by-white
Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 9:26PM MST
PS
-- Sailer endorses cheerfulness --
A Steve Sailer insider gives his Top Twelve Reasons for Being cheerful that Trump Won in 2024, republished by Sailer himself:
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/reasons-for-being-cheerful
Some of them are subject to debate.
His top reason: Trump to be president during July 4, 2026 celebrations (and U.S. soccer world cup, also in summer 2026; and Los Angeles Olympics, summer 2028), so all the energy will be positive instead of dreary and scolding.
Other reasons are often also in this vein: aesthetic. I find the analysis by this Sailer Insider to be shallow on many of his points. But such can be forgiven in the euphoria of the post-election 24 hours.
For example, what about the "brass tacks" issue of the White share-of-births? And the "stock" of Holy Migrants instead of just "flow"? I was disturbed to hear the word 'deportation' didn't find its way into the 30-minute Trump victory speech in the 2am hour of election night.
-- Sailer endorses cheerfulness --
A Steve Sailer insider gives his Top Twelve Reasons for Being cheerful that Trump Won in 2024, republished by Sailer himself:
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/reasons-for-being-cheerful
Some of them are subject to debate.
His top reason: Trump to be president during July 4, 2026 celebrations (and U.S. soccer world cup, also in summer 2026; and Los Angeles Olympics, summer 2028), so all the energy will be positive instead of dreary and scolding.
Other reasons are often also in this vein: aesthetic. I find the analysis by this Sailer Insider to be shallow on many of his points. But such can be forgiven in the euphoria of the post-election 24 hours.
For example, what about the "brass tacks" issue of the White share-of-births? And the "stock" of Holy Migrants instead of just "flow"? I was disturbed to hear the word 'deportation' didn't find its way into the 30-minute Trump victory speech in the 2am hour of election night.
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 7:22PM MST
PS: I agree Peanut was probably a cute squirrel, Alarmist, but, as you noted, the fact the Gov't goons have the ability to be sent to anyone's home to ransack the place as a (an illegal) "search" and shoot the pets is the real sad story of this country.
BTW, shooting the dog first, as with the Ruby Ridge, Idaho incident, but plenty others, is what the Police State does to demoralize us, and, yes, make us hate them. A squirrel can be a pet, I guess, and I'm more of a cat guy, but it's dogs that can be the most loyal and helpful to where their death by cop is a huge emotional and personal loss. The cops will say the dog was gonna bite them or something. Then, they have their huge German Shepherds trained specifically to attack. They will throw the book at anyone taking out one of their canine patrol members. (Not that I hate dogs, but they are there for the fear factor, and I'd take out the dog too were I defending my place - hope it never happens, of course.)
I'll have to write other posts tomorrow...
BTW, shooting the dog first, as with the Ruby Ridge, Idaho incident, but plenty others, is what the Police State does to demoralize us, and, yes, make us hate them. A squirrel can be a pet, I guess, and I'm more of a cat guy, but it's dogs that can be the most loyal and helpful to where their death by cop is a huge emotional and personal loss. The cops will say the dog was gonna bite them or something. Then, they have their huge German Shepherds trained specifically to attack. They will throw the book at anyone taking out one of their canine patrol members. (Not that I hate dogs, but they are there for the fear factor, and I'd take out the dog too were I defending my place - hope it never happens, of course.)
I'll have to write other posts tomorrow...
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 7:13PM MST
PS: Re: that "The View" fashion statement. Maybe it's just that all these women have found their butts look slimmer in black ... didn't work for Big Mike, errr, Michelle, but it's worth a try.
Seriously, what a bunch of drama queens.
I skipped around a bit to see probably less than 2 minutes of Kameltoe's goodbye speech - hopefully for good - but a ZeroHedge commenter was able to find a secret video of her practice time for the talk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glGtQSQl0zg
Heh!
Mr. Sailer really had something with that column or two about Kameltoe and her Sorority. Being a Sister for life and supporting the gals is probably as far as she should have, and would have, without AA, gone in political life. She got promoted WAY WAY beyond her level of competence. That could have been a real problem, but we dodged a bullet, and our ears are intact to boot!
Seriously, what a bunch of drama queens.
I skipped around a bit to see probably less than 2 minutes of Kameltoe's goodbye speech - hopefully for good - but a ZeroHedge commenter was able to find a secret video of her practice time for the talk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glGtQSQl0zg
Heh!
Mr. Sailer really had something with that column or two about Kameltoe and her Sorority. Being a Sister for life and supporting the gals is probably as far as she should have, and would have, without AA, gone in political life. She got promoted WAY WAY beyond her level of competence. That could have been a real problem, but we dodged a bullet, and our ears are intact to boot!
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 7:07PM MST
PS: On the estimable Sailer Strategy. I will say that the votes from Hispanics seem to have negated the value of his idea of going for the big share of the White vote. OTOH, that depends on why said Hispanics (blacks to only a smaller degree, and then, too, exit polls are supposed worth... not too much) voted R.
If you do some project, like the idiotic Platinum Plan™ of Summer '20 that not only wastes a lot of political capital and actual serious money, but also turns off just as many or more White voters at the same time, you're not proving the SS wrong. Additionally and more importantly, even if you get MOAR votes from these new sources than you lose, what's the damn point. Why do we care that you get voted into office if you don't help the White man, hence the future of any decent Republic?
Now, these Hispanic and black me who went for Trump were probably greatly turned off by ads like the Julia Roberts one that Mr. Hail here had me disgustingly watching. That was stupidity on the part of the ctlr-left, because, well, they can't help it. So, it's all a win for Trump, because no White men have any problem with the reason the other men voted for Trump.
When you start supporting the other side, at the expense of ours, you both trade off votes* and gain nothing or lose AND you really have lost your purpose.
Back to Mr. Sailer, he's still on the right track, and Trump is, if he keeps supporting and working for the White men (and some women). If Hispanics want to stop just going for the free shit (not saying they all do, but the "newcomers" for sure) and maybe could come around to understanding a few small government principles, well, more the better. I doubt it though - they are more macho in attitude in general, and I think that's why lots of the men can't stand women like Harris (and those "The View" ladies) any more than I do.
* I'm not saying White men may have voted for Biden after Trump announced that BS PP, but they may have said "screw this guy" and stayed home.
If you do some project, like the idiotic Platinum Plan™ of Summer '20 that not only wastes a lot of political capital and actual serious money, but also turns off just as many or more White voters at the same time, you're not proving the SS wrong. Additionally and more importantly, even if you get MOAR votes from these new sources than you lose, what's the damn point. Why do we care that you get voted into office if you don't help the White man, hence the future of any decent Republic?
Now, these Hispanic and black me who went for Trump were probably greatly turned off by ads like the Julia Roberts one that Mr. Hail here had me disgustingly watching. That was stupidity on the part of the ctlr-left, because, well, they can't help it. So, it's all a win for Trump, because no White men have any problem with the reason the other men voted for Trump.
When you start supporting the other side, at the expense of ours, you both trade off votes* and gain nothing or lose AND you really have lost your purpose.
Back to Mr. Sailer, he's still on the right track, and Trump is, if he keeps supporting and working for the White men (and some women). If Hispanics want to stop just going for the free shit (not saying they all do, but the "newcomers" for sure) and maybe could come around to understanding a few small government principles, well, more the better. I doubt it though - they are more macho in attitude in general, and I think that's why lots of the men can't stand women like Harris (and those "The View" ladies) any more than I do.
* I'm not saying White men may have voted for Biden after Trump announced that BS PP, but they may have said "screw this guy" and stayed home.
Dieter Kief
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 3:04PM MST
PS
Re - mr. Hail - Sailer Strategy - - -
I agree 2024 was the Sailer strategy once again - -
I tweeted this:
With the Sailer-strategy to victory- one more time - see
Steve Sailer: NOTICING - Essential Writings 1973- 2023, Passage Press 29 $ - Book of the Year - easily!
Steve Sailer ist der Mastermind hinter Trumps Sieg
- s. die Sailer-Strategy in dem grandiosen USA-Buch NOTICING -…
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I don't actually believe any of the countless tweets tonight about This Is The Reason Why Trump Won, but if I had to pick one ... x.com/sbkaufman/stat…
Re - mr. Hail - Sailer Strategy - - -
I agree 2024 was the Sailer strategy once again - -
I tweeted this:
With the Sailer-strategy to victory- one more time - see
Steve Sailer: NOTICING - Essential Writings 1973- 2023, Passage Press 29 $ - Book of the Year - easily!
Steve Sailer ist der Mastermind hinter Trumps Sieg
- s. die Sailer-Strategy in dem grandiosen USA-Buch NOTICING -…
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I don't actually believe any of the countless tweets tonight about This Is The Reason Why Trump Won, but if I had to pick one ... x.com/sbkaufman/stat…
The Alarmist
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 1:59PM MST
PS
Kamala was already at least three martinis🍸🍸🍸 into forgetting the whole year by the time the election was called.
As for the squirrel, the fact that they’d SWAT a couple to seize their pets and snuff them embarasses me as an American abroad. It evokes the image one sees where a prison guard or concentration camp guard kills the prisoner’s pet mouse just to torment him or her. Our leaders have become the “baddies.” 🤡🌎
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Kamala was already at least three martinis🍸🍸🍸 into forgetting the whole year by the time the election was called.
As for the squirrel, the fact that they’d SWAT a couple to seize their pets and snuff them embarasses me as an American abroad. It evokes the image one sees where a prison guard or concentration camp guard kills the prisoner’s pet mouse just to torment him or her. Our leaders have become the “baddies.” 🤡🌎
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Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 11:38AM MST
PS
-- on Kamala's disappearance --
At this hour there is reportedly still no statement of any kind from Kamala, nor any private "concession" phone call to Trump, nor any kind of communication to the Trump people at all.
It finally came out that a Kamala speech is planned for 4pm EST Wednesday. (No word yet on how much cackling will be involved.)
This 4pm speech, strangely, will again be at "Howard University," the starting place of her long-game race-hustle career. This again points to a kind of solipsism, it being "all about her" and her cluelessness or uninterest in all else in the world beyond herself.
A 4pm speech would be 14.5 hours after the election was effectively called. This kind of silence -- no statement of any kind, even a brief one, on election night -- is without precedent. It also feels like a real sign of poor leadership, an ironic corroboration of the moral rightness of the result; of Kamala being blocked from a diversity-promotion up to the White House.
-- on Kamala's disappearance --
At this hour there is reportedly still no statement of any kind from Kamala, nor any private "concession" phone call to Trump, nor any kind of communication to the Trump people at all.
It finally came out that a Kamala speech is planned for 4pm EST Wednesday. (No word yet on how much cackling will be involved.)
This 4pm speech, strangely, will again be at "Howard University," the starting place of her long-game race-hustle career. This again points to a kind of solipsism, it being "all about her" and her cluelessness or uninterest in all else in the world beyond herself.
A 4pm speech would be 14.5 hours after the election was effectively called. This kind of silence -- no statement of any kind, even a brief one, on election night -- is without precedent. It also feels like a real sign of poor leadership, an ironic corroboration of the moral rightness of the result; of Kamala being blocked from a diversity-promotion up to the White House.
Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 11:33AM MST
PS
-- The View in all black --
All six women panelists of the daytime tv powerhouse "The View" are said to have coordinated their wardrobes for the election day-after show today. They came out in full funeral-black.
The View women are said to want to visually convey their state of mourning, a mourning over the major blow to democracy and the major strides made by Fascism on this Black Tuesday, November 5th, 2024.
-- The View in all black --
All six women panelists of the daytime tv powerhouse "The View" are said to have coordinated their wardrobes for the election day-after show today. They came out in full funeral-black.
The View women are said to want to visually convey their state of mourning, a mourning over the major blow to democracy and the major strides made by Fascism on this Black Tuesday, November 5th, 2024.
Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 11:08AM MST
PS
-- On Steve Sailer's role in the 2024 election --
As the name SAILER has been raised, let me say:
It's a little troubling or disappointing to me that Sailer has had NO real commentary on the election at all. He's only tossed in some "marginalia," cute observations, or semi-jokes about something, like Kamala being a "sorority sister...and that's all there is."
No commentary even close to his historic Sailer Strategy commentary of the 2000s and early 2010s. In past years he has done hearty trench-warfare involving exit-polling data, and things like that. There is so much to choose from. But in stead he sticks to making fun of people who defend Transgender athletes in women's sports; or returns for the two-hundredth time to poking fun of self-important Black women journalists and their high degree of interest in their own hair texture.
I have for years now been urging Sailer to write some kind of serious, long-form effort on his Sailer Strategy, part retrospective and part prospective. But he shows little inclination. At some point, it feels like he quietly retired from active political commentating and is doing a cycle of inoffensive greatest hits.
Meanwhile, you have a few demagogues out there crowing about the death of the Sailer Strategy, for reasons that are not fully coherent but seem to pack a psychological-propagandistic punch. But I think even Trump's win in 2024 is another example of a successful Sailer Strategy. At the least because 2024 is a pale copy of 2016, which was out-and-out Sailer Strategy.
-- On Steve Sailer's role in the 2024 election --
As the name SAILER has been raised, let me say:
It's a little troubling or disappointing to me that Sailer has had NO real commentary on the election at all. He's only tossed in some "marginalia," cute observations, or semi-jokes about something, like Kamala being a "sorority sister...and that's all there is."
No commentary even close to his historic Sailer Strategy commentary of the 2000s and early 2010s. In past years he has done hearty trench-warfare involving exit-polling data, and things like that. There is so much to choose from. But in stead he sticks to making fun of people who defend Transgender athletes in women's sports; or returns for the two-hundredth time to poking fun of self-important Black women journalists and their high degree of interest in their own hair texture.
I have for years now been urging Sailer to write some kind of serious, long-form effort on his Sailer Strategy, part retrospective and part prospective. But he shows little inclination. At some point, it feels like he quietly retired from active political commentating and is doing a cycle of inoffensive greatest hits.
Meanwhile, you have a few demagogues out there crowing about the death of the Sailer Strategy, for reasons that are not fully coherent but seem to pack a psychological-propagandistic punch. But I think even Trump's win in 2024 is another example of a successful Sailer Strategy. At the least because 2024 is a pale copy of 2016, which was out-and-out Sailer Strategy.
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 11:06AM MST
PS: Mr. Hail, YES, I did consider that Door County would have some real rich folks, that, from what I see around here too, go for the D squad for virtue signaling reasons. They figure whatever happens won't affect them... till some Haitians show up in Door County. How much would the transportation cost, I'm wondering? Do it during the winter by boat, before the lake gets frozen, and when the roads out are blocked due to snowstorms.
You mentioned 2nd, vacation homes, which makes sense for a climate like that. I imagine these people could vote in both places. You've already shown ID (if even required) and gotten registered in your 1st home. Then, you get a driver's license in Door Country, probably helps with taxes, so you can say that you are a primary resident, while your wife is, in the old place. You go vote there, and if they ask for the ID at the 1st home when you vote early, you show them your passport.
I had a chance to do this but didn't. It wasn't just for moral reasons, but it was one of the elections from '04 through '12, so who cared? I was voting "L" anyway. One more vote wouldn't put them over the top. ;-}
Re Julia Roberts and her ad. Wow! That was really evil. As for Miss Roberts, once she bad-mouthed Abbeville (and Greenwood), S. Carolina long ago when filming that (also feminist) movie there with Kevin Kline due to "racism", I lost respect for her completely, I mean, if I'd had any other than respecting her bod.
You mentioned 2nd, vacation homes, which makes sense for a climate like that. I imagine these people could vote in both places. You've already shown ID (if even required) and gotten registered in your 1st home. Then, you get a driver's license in Door Country, probably helps with taxes, so you can say that you are a primary resident, while your wife is, in the old place. You go vote there, and if they ask for the ID at the 1st home when you vote early, you show them your passport.
I had a chance to do this but didn't. It wasn't just for moral reasons, but it was one of the elections from '04 through '12, so who cared? I was voting "L" anyway. One more vote wouldn't put them over the top. ;-}
Re Julia Roberts and her ad. Wow! That was really evil. As for Miss Roberts, once she bad-mouthed Abbeville (and Greenwood), S. Carolina long ago when filming that (also feminist) movie there with Kevin Kline due to "racism", I lost respect for her completely, I mean, if I'd had any other than respecting her bod.
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 10:58AM MST
PS: Of course, those are 2 perfectly valid reasons to vote for Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, Alarmist, but all I can say is "Debbie Mucarsel-Powell bikini pictures" got me nowhere. She looks purely American, which surprised me, based on that maiden(?) name. Anyway, I saw 52 R Senators, but as I told someone this morning, getting a few more Mitch McConnell types means nothing.
That is, unless Trump and his (much brighter, wiser, and competent) new advisors develop an actual STRATEGY this time. You threaten Congressmen especially (due to 2-year election cycle) with "I don't want to have to visit your district and steer everyone to your primary opponent, so vote my way on these 10 issues or I will." That's what Trump would be really good at, as he likes speaking at rallies a lot more than thinking of these strategic plans.. Instead, it was "I HATE you, Jeff Sessions, so I'll campaign for your opponent for Senator!.... so what if you've got an A+ rating on immigration. (We got lucky on that one, as Tuberville has been damn good too.) I sure hope he's learned or he gets advise to not do these things based on emotion.
That is, unless Trump and his (much brighter, wiser, and competent) new advisors develop an actual STRATEGY this time. You threaten Congressmen especially (due to 2-year election cycle) with "I don't want to have to visit your district and steer everyone to your primary opponent, so vote my way on these 10 issues or I will." That's what Trump would be really good at, as he likes speaking at rallies a lot more than thinking of these strategic plans.. Instead, it was "I HATE you, Jeff Sessions, so I'll campaign for your opponent for Senator!.... so what if you've got an A+ rating on immigration. (We got lucky on that one, as Tuberville has been damn good too.) I sure hope he's learned or he gets advise to not do these things based on emotion.
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 10:50AM MST
PS: https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=85
"Had it up to here with these messy, dirty rat bastard..."
I wrote that one before I saw, and videoed for 9 minutes, our 9 lb cat eating a baby squirrel but maybe rat, on our front porch. He ate every bit. I guess I won't upload it here...
"Had it up to here with these messy, dirty rat bastard..."
I wrote that one before I saw, and videoed for 9 minutes, our 9 lb cat eating a baby squirrel but maybe rat, on our front porch. He ate every bit. I guess I won't upload it here...
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 10:47AM MST
PS: Fred, that goes along with your comment under the goodbye post with the excellent meme idea of Kamaltoe being the wicked witch of the West, with the Hildabeast being the one from the East, though it could be reversed depending on our geographical scale. West coast vs East Coast or The East (India) vs The West.
Anyway, your other remark reminded me of Steve Sailer's very good take on Kamala as being the Sorority sister. I mean, she was, but he figures that's still all she is. I would imagine being in the Sorority at Howard was probably the best time in her life. She could hang out with folks "black" like her, but then she'd have a big advantage being likely one of the best looking, with her straight hair and probably better figure than the average. Nobody needed to sweat the schoolwork. Good times... ain't we lucky we got 'em.
As she went to visit her "sisters" there on this election night for some party, she could have done a bunch of drinking without any worry. If the reporters wanted a statement, she'd have sounded perfectly normal, for her.
Anyway, your other remark reminded me of Steve Sailer's very good take on Kamala as being the Sorority sister. I mean, she was, but he figures that's still all she is. I would imagine being in the Sorority at Howard was probably the best time in her life. She could hang out with folks "black" like her, but then she'd have a big advantage being likely one of the best looking, with her straight hair and probably better figure than the average. Nobody needed to sweat the schoolwork. Good times... ain't we lucky we got 'em.
As she went to visit her "sisters" there on this election night for some party, she could have done a bunch of drinking without any worry. If the reporters wanted a statement, she'd have sounded perfectly normal, for her.
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 10:27AM MST
PS: About little Peanut, though: Yeah, he was a pet, so I shouldn't lump him in with the ones that eat all the pecans... of the people who live here ...
However, the biggest thing, as Daniel Knauf (per Hail) wrote, is that this Police State has gotten to this point. I saw all this coming in the 1990s. So did Ron Paul. That's why I am glad Ron Paul may have President Trump's ear at times. I hope, in addition to cluing Trump in on the real financial situation, Dr. Paul could introduce to Trump some of the concepts Libertarians/Constitutionalists have been worrying about and discussing for 50 years. So far, Trump is kind of clueless - he has the common sense to understand what the Police State is about (especially from his own dealings with the FBI or whomever down in Florida that time), but he doesn't have the principles.
I don't mean just Peanut's plight, of course, but the SWATing, at will, of people. The US Constitution was written in fear of such a thing, SWAT teams being a thing in 1789 or not, same general idea.
However, the biggest thing, as Daniel Knauf (per Hail) wrote, is that this Police State has gotten to this point. I saw all this coming in the 1990s. So did Ron Paul. That's why I am glad Ron Paul may have President Trump's ear at times. I hope, in addition to cluing Trump in on the real financial situation, Dr. Paul could introduce to Trump some of the concepts Libertarians/Constitutionalists have been worrying about and discussing for 50 years. So far, Trump is kind of clueless - he has the common sense to understand what the Police State is about (especially from his own dealings with the FBI or whomever down in Florida that time), but he doesn't have the principles.
I don't mean just Peanut's plight, of course, but the SWATing, at will, of people. The US Constitution was written in fear of such a thing, SWAT teams being a thing in 1789 or not, same general idea.
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 10:17AM MST
PS: Haha to Alarmist. I like these take-offs on the Niemoller quote. I hope they get to the popularity of that Hitler movie scene, because there's so much one can do with it. Here's my take, starting with yours:
First, they came for the geese, and I was glad, because those bastards shit so much I can't even roller blade without sliding out..
Then, they came for the cats, but mine got into the crawl space, and I was around the corner with a shotgun, so no problem...
Then, they came for the squirrels, and I did nothing ... other than handing them all the birdshot I could round up...
They're nothing but rats with bushy tails, people!
Goodbye, Peanut and colleagues, and hello good pecans in November.
First, they came for the geese, and I was glad, because those bastards shit so much I can't even roller blade without sliding out..
Then, they came for the cats, but mine got into the crawl space, and I was around the corner with a shotgun, so no problem...
Then, they came for the squirrels, and I did nothing ... other than handing them all the birdshot I could round up...
They're nothing but rats with bushy tails, people!
Goodbye, Peanut and colleagues, and hello good pecans in November.
Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 9:22AM MST
PS
The Alarmist wrote: "Then they capped the squirrel, and it was gloves off !"
Was the martyring of the pro-Trump now-iconic Peanut The Squirrel enough to tilt opinion and ensure a comfortable "Too Big to Rig" Trump victory? Kamala supporter Ben Dreyfuss, today, says this:
"I’m just glad we killed that f****ng squirrel while we had the chance. Trump might be able to get the nuclear codes again, but he can't bring Peanut back to life, can he?" -- Benjamin Dreyfuss, November 6, 2024
https://x.com/bendreyfuss/status/1854015982429511762
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Apolitical centrist, essayist, and writer Daniel Knauf (a colleague of C. J. Hopkins, whose legal status in Germany still remains precarious):
"I’m genuinely pissed and here’s why: Peanut is just a harmless little animal. One psychotic Karen half a continent away makes formal complaints and state stormtroopers mount a raid and kill poor Peanut. / I am Peanut. #IAmPeanut" -- Daniel Knauf, November 3, 2024.
https://x.com/daniel_knauf/status/1852965894621639115
The Alarmist wrote: "Then they capped the squirrel, and it was gloves off !"
Was the martyring of the pro-Trump now-iconic Peanut The Squirrel enough to tilt opinion and ensure a comfortable "Too Big to Rig" Trump victory? Kamala supporter Ben Dreyfuss, today, says this:
"I’m just glad we killed that f****ng squirrel while we had the chance. Trump might be able to get the nuclear codes again, but he can't bring Peanut back to life, can he?" -- Benjamin Dreyfuss, November 6, 2024
https://x.com/bendreyfuss/status/1854015982429511762
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Apolitical centrist, essayist, and writer Daniel Knauf (a colleague of C. J. Hopkins, whose legal status in Germany still remains precarious):
"I’m genuinely pissed and here’s why: Peanut is just a harmless little animal. One psychotic Karen half a continent away makes formal complaints and state stormtroopers mount a raid and kill poor Peanut. / I am Peanut. #IAmPeanut" -- Daniel Knauf, November 3, 2024.
https://x.com/daniel_knauf/status/1852965894621639115
Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 9:00AM MST
PS
"the difference in the way men and women process reality...."
Fred: for me, one of the iconic images of the 2024 Trump-vs-Kamala election is this much-discussed television-ad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCPck2qDhk
"Julia Roberts Reminds Us - Your Vote, Your Choice"
People have pointed out that this ad is revealing of how the Blue coalition's thought-leaders sees Marriage itself, as an institution, as a lifestyle. How they see male-female relations.
The attitude reflected in this ad actually hurt the D-team and 'Kamala' in 2024, or so the post-election wisdom has it,. The attitude behind the ad is certainly offensive to men (galvanizing them against Kamala). And the kind of woman to whom that ad was pitched, we now learn, did NOT shift towards Kamala at all. It failed. (Granted, the young-unmarried, educated, upwardly-aspirant white-female voter-demographic did give the expected big margins to Kamala.)
Even if the attitude reflected in that ad had 'helped' to pump up the female margin in this one election, it's ultimately a loser for undermining social institutions. The women-against-men machine has been whirring away for at least fifty years now, but a lot of people still have instincts in the other direction.
"the difference in the way men and women process reality...."
Fred: for me, one of the iconic images of the 2024 Trump-vs-Kamala election is this much-discussed television-ad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCPck2qDhk
"Julia Roberts Reminds Us - Your Vote, Your Choice"
People have pointed out that this ad is revealing of how the Blue coalition's thought-leaders sees Marriage itself, as an institution, as a lifestyle. How they see male-female relations.
The attitude reflected in this ad actually hurt the D-team and 'Kamala' in 2024, or so the post-election wisdom has it,. The attitude behind the ad is certainly offensive to men (galvanizing them against Kamala). And the kind of woman to whom that ad was pitched, we now learn, did NOT shift towards Kamala at all. It failed. (Granted, the young-unmarried, educated, upwardly-aspirant white-female voter-demographic did give the expected big margins to Kamala.)
Even if the attitude reflected in that ad had 'helped' to pump up the female margin in this one election, it's ultimately a loser for undermining social institutions. The women-against-men machine has been whirring away for at least fifty years now, but a lot of people still have instincts in the other direction.
The Alarmist
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 8:49AM MST
PS
The babe in Florida running against Rick Scott had a nice rack, and that was the extent of merit that she put out there.
I found my way back to the US to do my civic duty. The constant political ads alternating with pharma ads drove Mrs. Alarmist crazy, so I suggested she take a pill, which she pointed out would likely have a long lost of side-effects. I particularly like the one supposed to be taken with anti-depressants which can actually add to the suicidal thoughts that anti-depressants themselves can engender.
Its morning in America, Dems ... Be sure to take your meds.
🕉
The babe in Florida running against Rick Scott had a nice rack, and that was the extent of merit that she put out there.
I found my way back to the US to do my civic duty. The constant political ads alternating with pharma ads drove Mrs. Alarmist crazy, so I suggested she take a pill, which she pointed out would likely have a long lost of side-effects. I particularly like the one supposed to be taken with anti-depressants which can actually add to the suicidal thoughts that anti-depressants themselves can engender.
Its morning in America, Dems ... Be sure to take your meds.
🕉
Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 8:46AM MST
PS
"I was telling my friend that the long peninsula - it's northern Kewaunee County and all of Door Country - between Lake Michigan and Green Bay ought to be great prepper, off-the-grid territory. Hell, it went D though. I don't like the cold anyway."
Door County, Wisconsin; per CNN right now:
(2024)
- Kamala: 10,564 votes
- Trump: 10,098 votes
- RFK Jr., Stein (Green), Oliver (Libertarian), West (BLM): 200 votes combined
(2016)
- Hillary: 8,104 votes
- Trump: 8,580 votes
- Gary Johnson (Libertarian): 558 votes
- Stein (Green), Castle (Constitution Party), McMullin (CIA): 440 votes combined
In both cases there was no appreciable difference, the county contributing a measly four-hundred or so votes one way or the other to the statewide margin. (Trump's margin in 2024 is over 30,000).
But Door County is an all-White area without a major university, which make it curious that it votes more D-heavy than the statewide White vote-total, (Wisconsin Whites, statewide in 2024: at least 55-45 for Trump.)
The answer may be that a large portion of the Door County voters in the 2020s are well-off, self-satisfied people feeling themselves members of the broad elite, a group celebrated by the current D-coalition and which, by temperament and peer-pressure, dislike Trump.
Door County gets much of its economic activity through tourism and recreation. Land prices are high; the people who can afford to live there, or to have second-homes there and end up voting there in some cases, will necessarily need money. And with money tends to come socialization into the System-party's coalition. The blue-shading in 2024 is a reflection of this element.
Meanwhile, across the water in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, it's Trump by wide margins, generally 2:1.
"I was telling my friend that the long peninsula - it's northern Kewaunee County and all of Door Country - between Lake Michigan and Green Bay ought to be great prepper, off-the-grid territory. Hell, it went D though. I don't like the cold anyway."
Door County, Wisconsin; per CNN right now:
(2024)
- Kamala: 10,564 votes
- Trump: 10,098 votes
- RFK Jr., Stein (Green), Oliver (Libertarian), West (BLM): 200 votes combined
(2016)
- Hillary: 8,104 votes
- Trump: 8,580 votes
- Gary Johnson (Libertarian): 558 votes
- Stein (Green), Castle (Constitution Party), McMullin (CIA): 440 votes combined
In both cases there was no appreciable difference, the county contributing a measly four-hundred or so votes one way or the other to the statewide margin. (Trump's margin in 2024 is over 30,000).
But Door County is an all-White area without a major university, which make it curious that it votes more D-heavy than the statewide White vote-total, (Wisconsin Whites, statewide in 2024: at least 55-45 for Trump.)
The answer may be that a large portion of the Door County voters in the 2020s are well-off, self-satisfied people feeling themselves members of the broad elite, a group celebrated by the current D-coalition and which, by temperament and peer-pressure, dislike Trump.
Door County gets much of its economic activity through tourism and recreation. Land prices are high; the people who can afford to live there, or to have second-homes there and end up voting there in some cases, will necessarily need money. And with money tends to come socialization into the System-party's coalition. The blue-shading in 2024 is a reflection of this element.
Meanwhile, across the water in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, it's Trump by wide margins, generally 2:1.
Fred the Gator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 8:42AM MST
PS There are unconfirmed rumors that a wellness check was done on Kamela Harris after people reported hearing wails of "I'm melting! I'm melting!" from the private room where she was watching the election results.
Her inconsolable campaign workers were reported as saying, "Noooo! This is OUR democracy, not theirs! How could this happen????"
Sorry, I couldn't help it.
Something that occurred to me was that the Democrats seemed to proceed by trying to "other" the opposition by giving them pejorative labels. The Republicans seemed to try to argue particular issues. I wonder if this might be a product of the difference in the way men and women process reality....
Her inconsolable campaign workers were reported as saying, "Noooo! This is OUR democracy, not theirs! How could this happen????"
Sorry, I couldn't help it.
Something that occurred to me was that the Democrats seemed to proceed by trying to "other" the opposition by giving them pejorative labels. The Republicans seemed to try to argue particular issues. I wonder if this might be a product of the difference in the way men and women process reality....
Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 8:21AM MST
PS
Exit-poll info for Florida 2024:
Group (% of voters), margin Trump-Kamala
- Whites (59% of voters), 61-37
- Blacks (12%), 15-82
- Latinos (24%), 58-40
--- have Cuban ancestry (6%), 72-28
--- have Puerto Rican ancestry (7%), 44-51
- Asians (2%), insufficient data
- Other races (3%), 67-30
The White vote-margin was considerably stronger in 2016, when Whites were 62% of voters and gave Trump a comfortable 64-32 margin. The reason Florida was such a big win in 2024 was, if you believe this exit poll, that Hispanics went as high as 60-40 for Trump in 2024 (after in 2016 going 35-62 the other way, for Clinton over Trump). This realignment was already visible in 2020. But it was not a major feature of the original 2016 coalition. (As usual with things, Whites pioneer the way and others join along later.)
https://edition.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/florida/general/president/0
https://edition.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/florida/president
There are a lot of ways to interpret the meaning of the Hispanic shift to Trump in 2024 (and lesser-scale phenomena of similar kind in some other groups; a lot of talk in the U.S. media is about Black males either declining to vote at all or shifting towards Trump at historic highs (still only 20% max, per some exit-polls). Will any of this have much lasting meaning?
Certain kinds of Nonwhites feel attracted to decisive, big-talking, boastful, self-assured leadership (or "caudillos"), but the D-party and coalition has also been effective and keeping them loyal for ethnic reasons (the non- and anti-White coalition). These two tendencies clashed for some years running. Then pops up Kamala, truly a very bad candidate and, I do believe, the worst candidate for president in U.S. history. That seems to have been enough to break the usual D-coalition and empower the elements that admire Trump because Hulk Hogan endorsed him (or whatever immediate equivalent it is for them).
A lot of the Whites who voted for Kamala in 2024 were actually voting for the D party, for a system(-party). Kamala as worst candidate in U.S. history was not lost on, I assume, quite many of them. But they voted for the party and against Trump. The Nonwhites who voted against Kamala, on average are going to have much less loyalty to any party, which is really a function of their weak rootedness in the USA itself. Despite the result that Trump winning being good, the wild swings in support towards a charismatic caudillo-like politician is troubling, a sign of Third Worldization or instability in politics.
Exit-poll info for Florida 2024:
Group (% of voters), margin Trump-Kamala
- Whites (59% of voters), 61-37
- Blacks (12%), 15-82
- Latinos (24%), 58-40
--- have Cuban ancestry (6%), 72-28
--- have Puerto Rican ancestry (7%), 44-51
- Asians (2%), insufficient data
- Other races (3%), 67-30
The White vote-margin was considerably stronger in 2016, when Whites were 62% of voters and gave Trump a comfortable 64-32 margin. The reason Florida was such a big win in 2024 was, if you believe this exit poll, that Hispanics went as high as 60-40 for Trump in 2024 (after in 2016 going 35-62 the other way, for Clinton over Trump). This realignment was already visible in 2020. But it was not a major feature of the original 2016 coalition. (As usual with things, Whites pioneer the way and others join along later.)
https://edition.cnn.com/election/2024/exit-polls/florida/general/president/0
https://edition.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/florida/president
There are a lot of ways to interpret the meaning of the Hispanic shift to Trump in 2024 (and lesser-scale phenomena of similar kind in some other groups; a lot of talk in the U.S. media is about Black males either declining to vote at all or shifting towards Trump at historic highs (still only 20% max, per some exit-polls). Will any of this have much lasting meaning?
Certain kinds of Nonwhites feel attracted to decisive, big-talking, boastful, self-assured leadership (or "caudillos"), but the D-party and coalition has also been effective and keeping them loyal for ethnic reasons (the non- and anti-White coalition). These two tendencies clashed for some years running. Then pops up Kamala, truly a very bad candidate and, I do believe, the worst candidate for president in U.S. history. That seems to have been enough to break the usual D-coalition and empower the elements that admire Trump because Hulk Hogan endorsed him (or whatever immediate equivalent it is for them).
A lot of the Whites who voted for Kamala in 2024 were actually voting for the D party, for a system(-party). Kamala as worst candidate in U.S. history was not lost on, I assume, quite many of them. But they voted for the party and against Trump. The Nonwhites who voted against Kamala, on average are going to have much less loyalty to any party, which is really a function of their weak rootedness in the USA itself. Despite the result that Trump winning being good, the wild swings in support towards a charismatic caudillo-like politician is troubling, a sign of Third Worldization or instability in politics.
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 8:10AM MST
PS: Nevada was right behind WI at 4 A EST, as the ditz couple would have needed 73.5% of the remaining 8.8% of votes - oh, yeah Vegas, sure, but I wonder if they were hoping ballots could be found to get that 73.5% overnight.
The not calling of Arizona was fair enough at that hour with only 53% of the vote in and pretty close numbers. Will write more in a couple of hours.
The not calling of Arizona was fair enough at that hour with only 53% of the vote in and pretty close numbers. Will write more in a couple of hours.
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 8:06AM MST
PS: I feel obligated to make another post here - things do look so much better in the morning! In that, I'll address some of what you wrote about the election return reporting.
This was the 1st time since 2000 that I watched this stuff on TV. (That time was in Chicago with 2 friends. Yeah, we thought it was a done deal that night. I was shocked the next morning, and then, as most of us here would remember, it went on for about a month. I can remember a lot about what the people I worked with thought about it.)
Anyway, at a friends house, leading toward Robert's comment now, I had some alcohol for the 1st time in months. It was just a couple of shots of liqueurs. I will state here that Bailey's, once opened, doesn't stay mixed after 10 years, but one can still drink it.
I mentioned taking shots for every instance of suspected cheating, but I didn't want to end up in the ER. Luckily, this one was #TooBigToRig. That's something I will write about...
See, Mr. Hail, in reply to your point about the networks being together on this, I watched one of them tout the GREATNESS of AP news' system. I don't know. Associated Press is quite biased. (I'd try clicking on their search result blurbs, thinking they'd be the impartial ones ... nah.) So, they all seem to be relying on AP, except that Fox news finally said "screw it, that's enough) and called it with those 5 States - MI, WI, NV, AZ, AK (Alaska! WTH happened to that place?!) - remaining uncalled on the AP website.
Rather than stay up till late, I, not of my own volition, woke up at just before 4A EST and checked that site - Bing has it right off, in fact I just typed "e", and the rest filled in. That's when I noticed the 5 States remaining, with Trump at 267 EVs.
I did some algebra this morning from some screen shots I luckily thought to take, at 3:51A EST or so. First, I thought "Ahaaa! These people were deliberately holding back on obvious wins." There is the thought that all of these States - well about all States, period - have urban areas, even Alaska. Why they are the last to finish up reporting is another story? The math says that WI was the one that deserved calling (to me), as Kameltoe would have had to get 75% of all the remaining (7.1%) uncounted ballots to get even with Trump. Do these AP expect something near that from districts in Madison or Milwaukee? BTW, I was telling my friend that the long peninsula - it's northern Kewaunee County and all of Door Country - between Lake Michigan and Green Bay ought to be great prepper, off-the-grid territory. Hell, it went D though. I don't like the cold anyway.
This was the 1st time since 2000 that I watched this stuff on TV. (That time was in Chicago with 2 friends. Yeah, we thought it was a done deal that night. I was shocked the next morning, and then, as most of us here would remember, it went on for about a month. I can remember a lot about what the people I worked with thought about it.)
Anyway, at a friends house, leading toward Robert's comment now, I had some alcohol for the 1st time in months. It was just a couple of shots of liqueurs. I will state here that Bailey's, once opened, doesn't stay mixed after 10 years, but one can still drink it.
I mentioned taking shots for every instance of suspected cheating, but I didn't want to end up in the ER. Luckily, this one was #TooBigToRig. That's something I will write about...
See, Mr. Hail, in reply to your point about the networks being together on this, I watched one of them tout the GREATNESS of AP news' system. I don't know. Associated Press is quite biased. (I'd try clicking on their search result blurbs, thinking they'd be the impartial ones ... nah.) So, they all seem to be relying on AP, except that Fox news finally said "screw it, that's enough) and called it with those 5 States - MI, WI, NV, AZ, AK (Alaska! WTH happened to that place?!) - remaining uncalled on the AP website.
Rather than stay up till late, I, not of my own volition, woke up at just before 4A EST and checked that site - Bing has it right off, in fact I just typed "e", and the rest filled in. That's when I noticed the 5 States remaining, with Trump at 267 EVs.
I did some algebra this morning from some screen shots I luckily thought to take, at 3:51A EST or so. First, I thought "Ahaaa! These people were deliberately holding back on obvious wins." There is the thought that all of these States - well about all States, period - have urban areas, even Alaska. Why they are the last to finish up reporting is another story? The math says that WI was the one that deserved calling (to me), as Kameltoe would have had to get 75% of all the remaining (7.1%) uncounted ballots to get even with Trump. Do these AP expect something near that from districts in Madison or Milwaukee? BTW, I was telling my friend that the long peninsula - it's northern Kewaunee County and all of Door Country - between Lake Michigan and Green Bay ought to be great prepper, off-the-grid territory. Hell, it went D though. I don't like the cold anyway.
Moderator
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 7:51AM MST
PS: Those guys were right about Florida, Mr. Hail. It was a Δ of 13.1 percentage points. Rick Scott also kicked ass in the Senate election. He was running against some woman with a dash in her name, no, not La-dash-a, but a hyphen in her family name. That's always suspect to me. I imagine, rather than that, the decent folks that moved from up north or all around down to Florida for the less oppressive gov't helped out. Yes, Ron D. has done a splendid job, in concert with the Legislature there, to make it that way.
Then, there are always some fools who move in to escape the oppressive Gov't (surely not the humidity!) and then end up voting for the same stuff. Maybe most of the people aren't like that anymore.
Then, there are always some fools who move in to escape the oppressive Gov't (surely not the humidity!) and then end up voting for the same stuff. Maybe most of the people aren't like that anymore.
Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 7:38AM MST
PS
Reaction from the editor-in-chief of The Scientific American magazine, Laura Helmuth:
"I apologize to younger voters that my generation (Generation X) is so full of...fascists." "Every four years I remember why I left Indiana (where I grew up) and remember why I respect the people who stayed and are trying to make it les racist and sexist. The moral arc of the universe isn't going to bend itself."
She also wrote a post saying her "meanest, dumbest, most bigoted high-school classmates are celebrating early results."
(Posted to the "bluesky" social-media network.)
Reaction from the editor-in-chief of The Scientific American magazine, Laura Helmuth:
"I apologize to younger voters that my generation (Generation X) is so full of...fascists." "Every four years I remember why I left Indiana (where I grew up) and remember why I respect the people who stayed and are trying to make it les racist and sexist. The moral arc of the universe isn't going to bend itself."
She also wrote a post saying her "meanest, dumbest, most bigoted high-school classmates are celebrating early results."
(Posted to the "bluesky" social-media network.)
Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 7:31AM MST
PS
"Democracy is gone. Once a democracy is gone, it's almost impossible to recover. It's only possible when dictators lose wars." -- Professor Alan Lichtman, early in the 1am hour, election night.
This man, Lichtman, was touted as a genius predictor of elections who is never wrong. He had been predicting a safe Kamala cake-walk victory in 2024 using his much-touted "Keys" system of election predictions.
"Democracy is gone. Once a democracy is gone, it's almost impossible to recover. It's only possible when dictators lose wars." -- Professor Alan Lichtman, early in the 1am hour, election night.
This man, Lichtman, was touted as a genius predictor of elections who is never wrong. He had been predicting a safe Kamala cake-walk victory in 2024 using his much-touted "Keys" system of election predictions.
The Alarmist
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 6:15AM MST
PS
When they came for the geese, I said nothing.
When they came for the cats, I said nothing.
Then they capped the squirrel, and it was gloves off !
When they came for the geese, I said nothing.
When they came for the cats, I said nothing.
Then they capped the squirrel, and it was gloves off !
Hail
Wednesday - November 6th 2024 4:04AM MST
PS
-- Trump wins, synopsis of media role in 'calling' the race --
The sharper people tracking returns and other data (turnout by precinct; early-votes received by party-registration; and other things) were predicting a strong likelihood of a Trump victory even by the 9pm hour EST. That even includes the heavy-duty number-crunchers like "538," whose "Chance to win presidency" figure exceeded 85% for Trump already early in the 9pm hour, I think, and pushed up well past 90% for Trump by later in the 9pm hour.
While it looked quite safe to predict a Trump win already even well before 10pm EST, people with reputations to keep don't want to make early 'calls' that turn out to be wrong. (The Fox News' early call of Arizona in 2020 is an interesting exception, with major political significance that hardcore politics-followers and Regime-analysts at the time recognized immediately; the early Fox 'call' of Arizona in 2020 is often considered the death-blow to Trump-2020's hopes to keep fighting, for practical purposes. It came long before CNN, NBC, CBS, AP, or others called Arizona; widely interpreted, at the time, as a maneuver or gambit by anti-Trump elements in Fox to use their influence to help get rid of Trump, to set the narrative that he'd definitely lost; the long "Stop the Steal" coda over the following weeks not changing it.)
Tonight, election 2024, the sharper data-trackers 'called' the election for Trump around 1:20am to 1:30am EST, that immediately after Pennsylvania was called,. By 'called' I mean: declaring Trump the projected winner; I do not mean "saying there is a high chance..."; I do mean "this is the result and, barring an asteroid strike or large-scale landing of UFOs, it will not change."
Fox News tonight then followed these sharp data-trackers and 'called' the entire election for Trump by about 1:45am EST. At about 2:25am, Trump and about three dozen family-members, campaign managers and celebrity supporters took the stage for his victory speech.
Kamala, meanwhile, had cancelled her own speech and disappeared, an unprecedented no-show, perhaps the first-ever time (in the media age) that a U.S. presidential candidate declined to speak at all on election night. Not even a single few words of any kind. As usual, Kamala emanates mediocrity. ("Kamala is a hollow blob of nothing," says Mickey Kaus.)
Of the big media players, for hours Fox stood alone in having called the election. CNN and others deliberately dragged their feet, hour after after in the pre-dawn hours, despite staring at the same unchanging data, and even despite their on-air commentary reflecting their knowledge that Trump was the "very likely" winner. The 3am hour cam and went; the 4am hour came and went; still to Kamala, still no 'calls' from the big networks or media-barons.
Finally, at 5:30am (20 minutes ago as of this writing), CNN called the presidential race for Trump with no fanfare at all, a somber and matter-of-fact tone. The timing on the call was evidently coordinated with other networks, hence the round-time of 5:30am instead of something like 4:53am or 5:08am or anything else. At about the exact same time, other networks (including the likes of globally influential Bloomberg News) also called the race for Trump.
The delay until 5:30am is curious, maybe. But you can bet a lot, a whole lot, on there having been backroom communication with the Kamala campaign people to ask if they were going to fight or not. That the 'call' was 5:30am and not 5:00am, or any other earlier time back to the 1am hour, was because the Kamala people said they still wanted to fight and told the networks not to 'call' yet while they figured things out.
The long-delayed announcement by CNN came after hours of glum-faced panelists groping around for explanations: how could Fascism actually win such decisive victories, in non-fascist U.S. states across the map? (Not everyone was that shrill; the tone was much more somber than outraged or shrill; another symbolic defeat with unclear practical consequences, but a humiliation given how much these people have invested in trying to kill off Trump.)
-- Trump wins, synopsis of media role in 'calling' the race --
The sharper people tracking returns and other data (turnout by precinct; early-votes received by party-registration; and other things) were predicting a strong likelihood of a Trump victory even by the 9pm hour EST. That even includes the heavy-duty number-crunchers like "538," whose "Chance to win presidency" figure exceeded 85% for Trump already early in the 9pm hour, I think, and pushed up well past 90% for Trump by later in the 9pm hour.
While it looked quite safe to predict a Trump win already even well before 10pm EST, people with reputations to keep don't want to make early 'calls' that turn out to be wrong. (The Fox News' early call of Arizona in 2020 is an interesting exception, with major political significance that hardcore politics-followers and Regime-analysts at the time recognized immediately; the early Fox 'call' of Arizona in 2020 is often considered the death-blow to Trump-2020's hopes to keep fighting, for practical purposes. It came long before CNN, NBC, CBS, AP, or others called Arizona; widely interpreted, at the time, as a maneuver or gambit by anti-Trump elements in Fox to use their influence to help get rid of Trump, to set the narrative that he'd definitely lost; the long "Stop the Steal" coda over the following weeks not changing it.)
Tonight, election 2024, the sharper data-trackers 'called' the election for Trump around 1:20am to 1:30am EST, that immediately after Pennsylvania was called,. By 'called' I mean: declaring Trump the projected winner; I do not mean "saying there is a high chance..."; I do mean "this is the result and, barring an asteroid strike or large-scale landing of UFOs, it will not change."
Fox News tonight then followed these sharp data-trackers and 'called' the entire election for Trump by about 1:45am EST. At about 2:25am, Trump and about three dozen family-members, campaign managers and celebrity supporters took the stage for his victory speech.
Kamala, meanwhile, had cancelled her own speech and disappeared, an unprecedented no-show, perhaps the first-ever time (in the media age) that a U.S. presidential candidate declined to speak at all on election night. Not even a single few words of any kind. As usual, Kamala emanates mediocrity. ("Kamala is a hollow blob of nothing," says Mickey Kaus.)
Of the big media players, for hours Fox stood alone in having called the election. CNN and others deliberately dragged their feet, hour after after in the pre-dawn hours, despite staring at the same unchanging data, and even despite their on-air commentary reflecting their knowledge that Trump was the "very likely" winner. The 3am hour cam and went; the 4am hour came and went; still to Kamala, still no 'calls' from the big networks or media-barons.
Finally, at 5:30am (20 minutes ago as of this writing), CNN called the presidential race for Trump with no fanfare at all, a somber and matter-of-fact tone. The timing on the call was evidently coordinated with other networks, hence the round-time of 5:30am instead of something like 4:53am or 5:08am or anything else. At about the exact same time, other networks (including the likes of globally influential Bloomberg News) also called the race for Trump.
The delay until 5:30am is curious, maybe. But you can bet a lot, a whole lot, on there having been backroom communication with the Kamala campaign people to ask if they were going to fight or not. That the 'call' was 5:30am and not 5:00am, or any other earlier time back to the 1am hour, was because the Kamala people said they still wanted to fight and told the networks not to 'call' yet while they figured things out.
The long-delayed announcement by CNN came after hours of glum-faced panelists groping around for explanations: how could Fascism actually win such decisive victories, in non-fascist U.S. states across the map? (Not everyone was that shrill; the tone was much more somber than outraged or shrill; another symbolic defeat with unclear practical consequences, but a humiliation given how much these people have invested in trying to kill off Trump.)
Robert
Tuesday - November 5th 2024 7:50PM MST
PS: Giant Asteroid 2024.
I sure hope and pray that this show (farce/tragedy/comedy)? will be over by Thanksgiving. I have been trying to stay away from the bottle the last couple of months, but I don't know how much longer I can keep it up if this goes on.
For those similarly trying to keep out of it, here is a fun (?) puzzle: (You others, please ignore this interruption.)
For which vowels can you think of a word with three instances of that vowel, but no others. So, tollbooth would count, but virginity would not. Can you find one with three 'o's but no "double" 'o's?
Can you find any with four (or even more) instances of a single vowel?
Robert
I sure hope and pray that this show (farce/tragedy/comedy)? will be over by Thanksgiving. I have been trying to stay away from the bottle the last couple of months, but I don't know how much longer I can keep it up if this goes on.
For those similarly trying to keep out of it, here is a fun (?) puzzle: (You others, please ignore this interruption.)
For which vowels can you think of a word with three instances of that vowel, but no others. So, tollbooth would count, but virginity would not. Can you find one with three 'o's but no "double" 'o's?
Can you find any with four (or even more) instances of a single vowel?
Robert
Hail
Tuesday - November 5th 2024 6:01PM MST
PS
- Florida big swing to Trump -
Some reliable data-people have been saying since midday, looking at certain things, that when the smoke clears Trump will 'carry' Florida by +10 at the least. The vote-totals flowing in seem to corroborate this. If so, it's the biggest margin of victory in Florida in decades. (You can thank Ron DeSantis for this.)
Florida presidential results
2000: R+0.1
2004: R+5
2008: D+2
2012: D+1
2016: R+1
2020: R+3
2024: R+10?
- Florida big swing to Trump -
Some reliable data-people have been saying since midday, looking at certain things, that when the smoke clears Trump will 'carry' Florida by +10 at the least. The vote-totals flowing in seem to corroborate this. If so, it's the biggest margin of victory in Florida in decades. (You can thank Ron DeSantis for this.)
Florida presidential results
2000: R+0.1
2004: R+5
2008: D+2
2012: D+1
2016: R+1
2020: R+3
2024: R+10?
Hail
Tuesday - November 5th 2024 5:51PM MST
PS
Some early data suggesting 2024 result is either mid-way between 2016 and 2020 or right around the 2016 result, both of which are very good for Trump (the latter means he likely wins).
But only six or seven states matter, of course.
Some early data suggesting 2024 result is either mid-way between 2016 and 2020 or right around the 2016 result, both of which are very good for Trump (the latter means he likely wins).
But only six or seven states matter, of course.
Adam Smith
Tuesday - November 5th 2024 9:58AM MST
PS: 🙂 ☮️
RE: Robert's " Can you find (a word) with three 'o's but no "double" 'o's?"
--
OBONGO.
The 'wiktionary' gives this definition:
(1.) (archaic) A member of the Bongo people of Gabon;
(2.) (slang, derogatory, offensive) Barack Obama.
--
Variant spelling (also a three-o non-consecutive word):
OGBONO.
"Ogbono Soup is a Nigerian dish made with ground dry ogbono seeds."