Posted On: Wednesday - August 28th 2024 7:54PM MST
In Topics:   Commies  Music  US Feral Government  Morning Constitutional  Taxes
(That's 28 for our readers in La Placenta.)
I've had this idea in mind for 15 years probably. I uploaded the image here 3 years back finally, and now, after reading something about the dream tax plans of Libertarian/Tax Resistor Irvin Schiff, I will finally get to this.
Look, Peak Stupidity's got NO representation in Congress. The local guy's a useless DIEveristy hire, and the 2 Senators are worthless. So, we'll have to just bring up our proposal for Amendment XXVIII ourselves here today. We've been very disappointed in the post-Bill-o'-Rights Amendment series so far. This one could make up for all that in one fell swoop. Then, State ratifiers gonna ratify, and all that ...
Using the "We the People" font* with the Founder's style misspellings would probably help get this thing ratified were we a nation still consisting of Founders-adjacent men.
Yeah, it got stupid near the end there, but the benefits are as follows:
1) Power would greatly devolve to the States. As it stands now, the FLOW of the money - from individuals to the Feds, then down to the States with strings attached and depending on moods - is the WORST evil of the Feral income tax. The flow of the money would be changed completely and for the better.
2) We all have taxes we hate more than others. Personally, I think property tax is the worst. It involves paying permanent rent to the State to keep one's earned property. Sales tax, though a burden on small business, is one I don't detest. The more self-reliant we each are, the less we mass consume, so the less of this tax we pay. Tax types could be regigered.
3) The States should be "experiments in democracy". If we don't like the way they do it here, we can move there. For all I care, California could start taxing the air that you breath. (Actually, CO2 exhalation would be better, both easier to accomplish, as an Exercise Science professor would tell you, and also easier to defend - you bastards and your poisonous CO2! You deserve to have the living taxed out of you!) And to help fit in with my Hollies song below, they could levy a tax on ejaculation. Porn industry insiders (insiders, haha) might agree to disagree.
4) Another important benefit here would be that the States would not have that big incentive to count up a big population, aliens included. It's good to increase representation. With Amendment XXVIII ratified, if they increase their population, they'll have to pony up more money to match.
5) Within the Congress, the Reps and Senators will have to be kind of careful about spending money for a change. "Oh, that new airport terminal you're earmarking $300 million for in Grand Forks? Yeah, well, your North Dakota constituents might love it, but we in Missouri will have to raise $6 million more via taxes for our share of your terminal. Screw you. Hell with your fancy glass, stainless steel, and moving walkways. Cinder block is gpnna have to do!"**
That's my proposal. It won't get anywhere in a country that doesn't follow the Law of the Land anymore, but perhaps this could be part of the main body of a new Constitutional Republican remnant, after we extract ourselves out of Banana Republicanism. A couple of the current taxation methods were taken straight outta Commieton... errr the Communist Manifesto. (Thank you Adam Smith.)
It's just a thought....
That CCR song is from the album Pendulum in which the band left the hard-rockin' guitar sound behind for the keyboards on many of the songs. This one is kind of mesmerizing...
* What a nice idea, created by a guy named Kieth Bates about 3 years back. Guys the can can do this sort of thing would probably be good counterfeiters or anti-counterfeiters.
** It would really help with this aspect of it if Amendment XVII were repealed along with XVI. It would force the Senators to take heed of their States' legislators who have to answer for that money going to the Feds.
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[UPDATED 08/31:] Added reference to Communists and their favorite taxes (at least Karl Marx's) per Adam Smith. While I was at it, I realized there'd been 2 #3's in the list of benefits of Amendment XXVIII. So, there are 5, not 4.
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Comments:
Moderator
Saturday - August 31st 2024 1:46PM MST
PS: "You must know your tolerance 𝑏𝑒𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑒 you start eating fentanyl patches!" You act like that is a done deal for me already, Mr. Smith. Believe me, I have no plans. My tolerance for doing really stupid things is fairly low ... these days.
Good point - if not Opium War 3.0, how about "Opium Wars: The Middle Kingdom Strikes Back"? (That was a sequel, BTW, before they had the prequels. The 2nd Star Wars movie - by that one, I'd pretty much had enough. I liked SciFi. That stuff is "space opera".
Good point - if not Opium War 3.0, how about "Opium Wars: The Middle Kingdom Strikes Back"? (That was a sequel, BTW, before they had the prequels. The 2nd Star Wars movie - by that one, I'd pretty much had enough. I liked SciFi. That stuff is "space opera".
Adam Smith
Friday - August 30th 2024 9:00AM MST
PS: Good afternoon, everyone!
(Ctrl-F) Communism = 0 = Weird...
The so called "Property Tax" and the so called "Income Tax" are two of the ten planks to the communist manifesto.
Most Americans have been practicing communism for so long that they don't even know it.
Weird. ☮️
(Ctrl-F) Communism = 0 = Weird...
The so called "Property Tax" and the so called "Income Tax" are two of the ten planks to the communist manifesto.
Most Americans have been practicing communism for so long that they don't even know it.
Weird. ☮️
Adam Smith
Friday - August 30th 2024 8:57AM MST
PS: 𝑊𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑛'𝑡 𝑢𝑠𝑢𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑐𝑢𝑠𝑠 𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑑𝑟𝑢𝑔 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑏𝑙𝑒𝑚𝑠 ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒...
https://i.ibb.co/RCSM4vS/Laudanum.jpg
Yes! This is very important!! (Muy importante!!)
You must know your tolerance 𝑏𝑒𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑒 you start eating fentanyl patches!
Before I met my neighbor, I had never heard of such a thing.
(I mean, seriously. Can you imagine...)
I've read about people who will take used fentanyl patches off of elderly patients in the nursing home or out of the trash and eat them. Some people, like my neighbor, will cut up their fentanyl patches and soak them in liquor and then drink it. (Because it is stronger that way.)
(As far as I know, my neighbor is eating new fentanyl patches.)
(But still.)
Fentanyl is a very serious drug.
Second hand exposure is real.
(And it can be deadly.)
This is not your great great grandma's laudanum. And this is not like smoking a little weed, or eating some shrooms or drinking too much. And it is much stronger than getting hooked on some oxy or or vicodin or something.
https://www.health.ny.gov/professionals/nursing_home_administrator/fentanyl_ltr.htm
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/accidental-exposures-fentanyl-patches-continue-be-deadly-children
Opium War 3.0 is so lit! ☮️
https://i.ibb.co/RCSM4vS/Laudanum.jpg
Yes! This is very important!! (Muy importante!!)
You must know your tolerance 𝑏𝑒𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑒 you start eating fentanyl patches!
Before I met my neighbor, I had never heard of such a thing.
(I mean, seriously. Can you imagine...)
I've read about people who will take used fentanyl patches off of elderly patients in the nursing home or out of the trash and eat them. Some people, like my neighbor, will cut up their fentanyl patches and soak them in liquor and then drink it. (Because it is stronger that way.)
(As far as I know, my neighbor is eating new fentanyl patches.)
(But still.)
Fentanyl is a very serious drug.
Second hand exposure is real.
(And it can be deadly.)
This is not your great great grandma's laudanum. And this is not like smoking a little weed, or eating some shrooms or drinking too much. And it is much stronger than getting hooked on some oxy or or vicodin or something.
https://www.health.ny.gov/professionals/nursing_home_administrator/fentanyl_ltr.htm
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/accidental-exposures-fentanyl-patches-continue-be-deadly-children
Opium War 3.0 is so lit! ☮️
Moderator
Thursday - August 29th 2024 8:06PM MST
PS: Alarmist and MBlanc46, I agree this will have to be worried about "on the other side". I mentioned a "remnant".
BTW, Mr. Blanc, we don't usually discuss our drug problems here (though Mr. Smith, for purposes of elucidation, mentioned some problems of his neighbor.)
I refer to your income going up you nose, that part.
Oh, maybe you didn't mean it that way. ;-}
BTW, Mr. Blanc, we don't usually discuss our drug problems here (though Mr. Smith, for purposes of elucidation, mentioned some problems of his neighbor.)
I refer to your income going up you nose, that part.
Oh, maybe you didn't mean it that way. ;-}
Moderator
Thursday - August 29th 2024 8:03PM MST
PS: Good points on the Articles of Federation, M. Admittedly, I have not read those Federalist papers. The other reasons for forming the Federal Gov't were included a common defense, and I figure a common currency. Were these in place, perhaps a system of revenue in the manner specified herein would work better, with the knowledge that this common defense had to be paid for somehow.
MBlanc46
Thursday - August 29th 2024 8:59AM MST
PS None of that is happening, including the constitutional stuff, until after some sort of revolution. If then. Property tax: At least pays for the roads, sewers, and other commons (and their maintenance). It’s the claim that the state has a claim on some percentage of my income that gets up my nose. Woodrow Wilson. Most destructive president ever.
The Alarmist
Thursday - August 29th 2024 5:26AM MST
PS
The US will be reduced to a Mad Max cluster of feuding warlords before this happens.
Looking at the bright side, at least we’ve imported the Third-Worlders who can make it work.☯️
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The US will be reduced to a Mad Max cluster of feuding warlords before this happens.
Looking at the bright side, at least we’ve imported the Third-Worlders who can make it work.☯️
🕉
M
Thursday - August 29th 2024 5:15AM MST
PS
From what I remember, the US had an earlier constitution. Yes, it was the "Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union".
The largest problem with it was pretty much what you're proposing, namely that the federal government was wholly dependent for money on the states. Which meant it perpetually had no money.
Which was why they gave the taxing powers they did in the revision. The Federalist papers had a lot of talk about their reasoning on this.
This isn't to say that it shouldn't be done. But I think there should be an argument made as to why this amendment wouldn't cause the same problems, or how it would solve them and allow the federal government to do the things you actually want it to do.
If you don't want it to do anything at all, that's reasonable with the current bunch. But what replaces it, and what are the likely consequences of that replacement?
From what I remember, the US had an earlier constitution. Yes, it was the "Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union".
The largest problem with it was pretty much what you're proposing, namely that the federal government was wholly dependent for money on the states. Which meant it perpetually had no money.
Which was why they gave the taxing powers they did in the revision. The Federalist papers had a lot of talk about their reasoning on this.
This isn't to say that it shouldn't be done. But I think there should be an argument made as to why this amendment wouldn't cause the same problems, or how it would solve them and allow the federal government to do the things you actually want it to do.
If you don't want it to do anything at all, that's reasonable with the current bunch. But what replaces it, and what are the likely consequences of that replacement?
I also put a Topic Key on.