Posted On: Friday - August 23rd 2024 10:58AM MST
In Topics:   Elections '16 - '24  Immigration Stupidity  Trump  Hildabeast  Race/Genetics  Karmakarma Kameleon
Via Instapundit, I came upon this Daily Caller article reporting on Black! men's opinion from the barbershop. It Hurts Black People’: Chicago Barbershop Voters Unload On Democrats Over Immigration Policy. Oh sure, there are always a few good guys, occasionally women even, that DO understand the big picture and have told the rest so for years.
“All the immigrants came in and … the stuff they have for the Americans, they’re giving it to the immigrants that’s coming in,” one voter said while receiving a haircut. “Trump was trying to keep them out, so to speak, as much as he could. But Biden just like let the gate open.”That's one guy, but I guess there are a lot of black voters out there who are sporting large movie-goer antagonizing Afros then, because they surely are not spending any time at the barber shops. Pew Research's data on '16 "validated"* voters shows their support, or lack thereof, for Trump in '16.**
It's hard to read, but that's an 81% Hildabeast vote from black men, and 98% from the women. I guess votes from the latter for Trump came to such a small number, there are statistical problems, hence the asterisk of which I haven't found the other end.***. (That right column of numbers is percentage of the total electorate.)
So, no, I am not excited about the black vote because, hey, they get it on immigration! That's not the case. Generally, they don't. In '16, they voted for the one more likely to supply the free shit, which is always the ctrl-left There was also the big black church lady turnout, as directed by James Clyburne and the various fried chicken outlets.
The reason black people in Chicago may be a little more up in arms about the invasion recently is because it's become personal. That's the only time they care. There's never been any concern out of them for the general cultural changes for the worse and the Population Replacement Programme directed against the White people who built the place. No, see, these "newcomers" to Chicagoland are getting the free shit paid for by the working White man that is supposed to go to the black man only. Note the quote above about "the stuff".
Even when they do look at the slightly larger picture, well:
“It hurts black people more than anything,” another voter said. “Black men particularly like to work with their hands, they like to drive trucks. Those are jobs that an illegal can come in and underbid him with third world prices and put him out of work.”[My bolding.] It's not "what's in it for legacy (Steve Sailer idea) Americans", but what's in it for US, the black people. I know that some White men drive trucks too. Trucking wages have taken a big hit (think REAL money) since the time of the Snowman in Smokey and the Bandit. That's 60 years of an unrelenting push for cheap labor that has been decreasing pay and job prospects for American men.
“Blacks are struggling more than any other demographic,” the voter said. “We got the highest prison rate, highest high school dropout rate. Highest murder rate. What’s in it for us?”
Oh, and Jason Cohen, the Daily Caller writer here, talked to a few guys before he got the heck out of that part of town, but for the one guy,
Despite his belief about former President Donald Trump handling illegal immigration better, the voter told Jones he plans to vote for Harris because she’s a woman.Whaaaa? That doesn't even sound right. It's more likely because she's black, or so she says...
As for the women:
“I’m going for Trump. I feel like every time they don’t want somebody who is good for us to win, they throw somebody black in our face thinking that’s going to make us vote for the black person,” a black woman told Lemon [Don, a black TV talking head].Yeah, well, you will anyway. Talk to me after your vote's been validated.
* The Pew article does a good job explaining what they mean by "validated". They use the term "verified" and then switch to "validated" part way down.
** To me, support for Trump was a pretty good proxy for caring about the immigration invasion. His bringing up that issue bigly WAS, after all, what got him into the race. In '20, well, there should be one big-assed asterisk, so I won't use those numbers.
*** No, these aren't them - I just want to note that I did check through page 3 of the article.
Comments:
Moderator
Sunday - August 25th 2024 12:12PM MST
PS: It's a bad feeling when you see that, Adam. I perfectly understand Mrs. Smith's feelings there. You don't know if something's just a fluke or a trend.
Adam Smith
Sunday - August 25th 2024 10:31AM MST
PS: Good afternoon, frens!
Mr. Hail axed*...
𝐷𝑜𝑒𝑠 ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 "𝐵𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑘𝑠 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑑𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑛 𝑊ℎ𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑙 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 2015"? 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑏𝑠𝑜𝑙𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑛 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑚𝑦 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒, 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑦 𝑎 𝑝𝑜𝑜𝑟 𝑑𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑟 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑤𝑟𝑜𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑟 𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑏𝑙𝑒𝑚𝑠 𝑖𝑠 𝐵𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑘 𝑎𝑡 𝑎 𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑡𝑖𝑚𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑝𝑜𝑝𝑢𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 𝑑𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒.
𝐴𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑃𝑒𝑎𝑘 𝑆𝑡𝑢𝑝𝑖𝑑𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑚 𝑜𝑟 𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑦 𝑏𝑦 𝑜𝑏𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛?
Yesterday, Mrs. Smith and I went to the local walmart. As we were leaving the garden area, after picking up some spider spray...
https://i.ibb.co/t8v1GtF/ortho.jpg
we saw a pair of 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 dark skinned Africans. (This is kind of unusual for us as we live in Whitetopia, Southern Appalachia, 30533.) They seemed nice enough as they weren't ookin' or eekin' and they weren't (as far as I now) up to any monkeyshines. Anyway, about 10ft or so after we passed this pair of 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 dark skinned Africans, (who really don't belong here in Whiteopia and I don't know how they even found their way to our peaceful mountain town) Mrs. Smith said...
(And I quote)
“Grrrr... I don’t like it.”
She later explained that these two 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 dark skinned Africans were different than the normal American 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐬! that we are somewhat (fortunately not really) accustomed to. (You know, more like chocolate colored and not “smile so I can see you” 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤!.) She wondered what part of the dark continent they came from as they, obviously, are not from 'round here.
I guess the point of this story is...
Even here in our sleepy little mountain town, we are seeing an influx of 𝑛𝑒𝑤𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑠. We've always had some local Mexicans, but now, we are seeing more wetbacks. (Mrs. Smith grew up in Brownsville, TX. so this is not a slur. Simply an observation.) And we are seeing more 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐬! too. And not just “Atlanta is encroaching” 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐬! or the kind of 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐬! that go to the local college or come to town for ranger training. (Camp Frank D. Merrill)
The Biden regime's open borders Great Replacement policy is beginning to be noticeable even here in Whiteopia. (I can only imagine how noticeable this problem is in more populous places.) 15-20 million(ish) newcomers have to go somewhere. And, evidently, some of them have found their way here to Lumpkinville, R.F.D.
And we don't like it. ☮️
Mr. Hail axed*...
𝐷𝑜𝑒𝑠 ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑙𝑙𝑦 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑘 "𝐵𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑘𝑠 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑏𝑒𝑡𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑑𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑛 𝑊ℎ𝑖𝑡𝑒𝑠 𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑙 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 2015"? 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑎𝑏𝑠𝑜𝑙𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑙𝑦 𝑑𝑜𝑒𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑎𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑛 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑚𝑦 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒, 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑎𝑏𝑙𝑦 𝑎 𝑝𝑜𝑜𝑟 𝑑𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑟 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑑𝑜𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑤𝑟𝑜𝑛𝑔 𝑜𝑟 𝑐𝑎𝑢𝑠𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑝𝑟𝑜𝑏𝑙𝑒𝑚𝑠 𝑖𝑠 𝐵𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑘 𝑎𝑡 𝑎 𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝑠𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑙 𝑡𝑖𝑚𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑐𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑝𝑜𝑝𝑢𝑙𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛 𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑤𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑒𝑥𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 𝑑𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒.
𝐴𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝑃𝑒𝑎𝑘 𝑆𝑡𝑢𝑝𝑖𝑑𝑖𝑎𝑛𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑚 𝑜𝑟 𝑑𝑒𝑛𝑦 𝑏𝑦 𝑜𝑏𝑠𝑒𝑟𝑣𝑎𝑡𝑖𝑜𝑛?
Yesterday, Mrs. Smith and I went to the local walmart. As we were leaving the garden area, after picking up some spider spray...
https://i.ibb.co/t8v1GtF/ortho.jpg
we saw a pair of 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 dark skinned Africans. (This is kind of unusual for us as we live in Whitetopia, Southern Appalachia, 30533.) They seemed nice enough as they weren't ookin' or eekin' and they weren't (as far as I now) up to any monkeyshines. Anyway, about 10ft or so after we passed this pair of 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 dark skinned Africans, (who really don't belong here in Whiteopia and I don't know how they even found their way to our peaceful mountain town) Mrs. Smith said...
(And I quote)
“Grrrr... I don’t like it.”
She later explained that these two 𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑦 dark skinned Africans were different than the normal American 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐬! that we are somewhat (fortunately not really) accustomed to. (You know, more like chocolate colored and not “smile so I can see you” 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤!.) She wondered what part of the dark continent they came from as they, obviously, are not from 'round here.
I guess the point of this story is...
Even here in our sleepy little mountain town, we are seeing an influx of 𝑛𝑒𝑤𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑠. We've always had some local Mexicans, but now, we are seeing more wetbacks. (Mrs. Smith grew up in Brownsville, TX. so this is not a slur. Simply an observation.) And we are seeing more 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐬! too. And not just “Atlanta is encroaching” 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐬! or the kind of 𝐁𝐥𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐬! that go to the local college or come to town for ranger training. (Camp Frank D. Merrill)
The Biden regime's open borders Great Replacement policy is beginning to be noticeable even here in Whiteopia. (I can only imagine how noticeable this problem is in more populous places.) 15-20 million(ish) newcomers have to go somewhere. And, evidently, some of them have found their way here to Lumpkinville, R.F.D.
And we don't like it. ☮️
Moderator
Sunday - August 25th 2024 7:24AM MST
PS: Hello again, Rex. Yeah, they SHOULD be concerned about all those bad effects, as you wrote. However, when it comes down to it, most of them don't have the brains to keep this all in mind when it comes to "supporting the brothas", even if those brothers aren't helping their plight one bit.
It's only when it becomes really personal and close-up, such as their seeing that illegal Venezuelans are getting $1,000 monthly vouchers, free lodging in hotels and that, right in their own neighborhoods, that they finally want to do anything.
Hey, it's not just the black guys, Donald Trump, yeah, that guy, he only finally made the big "TECH" censorship into an issue in late summer of '20, when he realized it was affecting him (and the election) personally. Dumbass.
It's only when it becomes really personal and close-up, such as their seeing that illegal Venezuelans are getting $1,000 monthly vouchers, free lodging in hotels and that, right in their own neighborhoods, that they finally want to do anything.
Hey, it's not just the black guys, Donald Trump, yeah, that guy, he only finally made the big "TECH" censorship into an issue in late summer of '20, when he realized it was affecting him (and the election) personally. Dumbass.
Moderator
Sunday - August 25th 2024 7:19AM MST
PS: Old Solider, I've seen a whole lot of this. I won't touch on all (letters), but let me mention a few:
(b) Where I live, I've seen all types either never signal or just do it during the turn as a stupid, rote, CYA for the law move, doing absolutely no good as communication. Blacks, as usual are worse.
This one is not just a safety concern, but often simply a lack of courtesy. I think you will turn right onto the road I'm on here at the T-intersection, so I can pull out for my left turn. However, without the signal, I'm not sure. I see you slowing down, but who knows - you might speed back up. Oh, there you go turning, but now there's traffic too close from my right, so you just screwed me over. They do this all the time.
What I've been doing lately is, when someone doesn't signal for a right turn and I'm trying to take a left from the opposite direction, when they slow down, I'll just take my left (works better if the road we're turning on is a 4-lane, so I can end up next to him). So, the driver is really miffed and pissed - "Hey, I got the right of way!" "Sorry, asshole, I quit giving a damn about your right of way, since you're not gonna be courteous to me."
(d) Yes, the get pissed over being told they're being rude, very easily. I know blacks are in lots of commercials nowadays, but that battery commercial with Robert Conrad should have had a black guy. They've always got chips on their shoulders.
(f) You may or may not be surprised at this, but black women often have a deal where they are on the phone nearly literally all day long! You think they aren't, say, at the retail establishment, but it's just sitting on the counter on speaker. They'll be on it at work if it's at all possible, during dinner, driving everywhere ... I don't know how they handled it back when you had only so many "minutes" per month. They probably blew off the bills.
(b) Where I live, I've seen all types either never signal or just do it during the turn as a stupid, rote, CYA for the law move, doing absolutely no good as communication. Blacks, as usual are worse.
This one is not just a safety concern, but often simply a lack of courtesy. I think you will turn right onto the road I'm on here at the T-intersection, so I can pull out for my left turn. However, without the signal, I'm not sure. I see you slowing down, but who knows - you might speed back up. Oh, there you go turning, but now there's traffic too close from my right, so you just screwed me over. They do this all the time.
What I've been doing lately is, when someone doesn't signal for a right turn and I'm trying to take a left from the opposite direction, when they slow down, I'll just take my left (works better if the road we're turning on is a 4-lane, so I can end up next to him). So, the driver is really miffed and pissed - "Hey, I got the right of way!" "Sorry, asshole, I quit giving a damn about your right of way, since you're not gonna be courteous to me."
(d) Yes, the get pissed over being told they're being rude, very easily. I know blacks are in lots of commercials nowadays, but that battery commercial with Robert Conrad should have had a black guy. They've always got chips on their shoulders.
(f) You may or may not be surprised at this, but black women often have a deal where they are on the phone nearly literally all day long! You think they aren't, say, at the retail establishment, but it's just sitting on the counter on speaker. They'll be on it at work if it's at all possible, during dinner, driving everywhere ... I don't know how they handled it back when you had only so many "minutes" per month. They probably blew off the bills.
Moderator
Sunday - August 25th 2024 7:07AM MST
PS: Good morning, Peak Stupidity commenter friends!
Mr. Hail, Krugman may be untouchable for that reason, but I still don't see why anyone has to listen to him. Lucky for me, I haven't seen his face on any screen in 5 or 10 years, and that was only for a minute.
OK, now, regarding "African Americans were pretty decent drivers relative to whites until the Ferguson Effect got rolling..."
Firstly, I don't take "pretty decent relative to" to mean "better". I don't think he meant better, but also, I don't think it should be read that way. He just means not significantly worse drivers.
Then, he lives in Los Angeles. There are crazy driver on the freeways, but the black component of the population is just not very high there. Mr. Sailer has it pretty good. He is not in a position to see the kinds of things (on the roads, such as per Old Soldier, and otherwise) that have given lots of Americans cases of Negro Fatigue.
Another thing is that Mr. Sailer gets data on traffic deaths. There may be stats of ticketing, revoked licenses, etc, but I've not read any posts by him that start from there. Those are subject to lots of arguments vs the road deaths, where, you can't argue - someone got someone killed by driving badly. So, he doesn't SEE all the stupid driving habits of black people, and he doesn't have the stats.
His "decent", I guess, means within some low 2-digit percentage off White people's numbers, so "not too bad" - just my opinion on what he meant and his lack of real-world experience, Mr. Hail.
Mr. Hail, Krugman may be untouchable for that reason, but I still don't see why anyone has to listen to him. Lucky for me, I haven't seen his face on any screen in 5 or 10 years, and that was only for a minute.
OK, now, regarding "African Americans were pretty decent drivers relative to whites until the Ferguson Effect got rolling..."
Firstly, I don't take "pretty decent relative to" to mean "better". I don't think he meant better, but also, I don't think it should be read that way. He just means not significantly worse drivers.
Then, he lives in Los Angeles. There are crazy driver on the freeways, but the black component of the population is just not very high there. Mr. Sailer has it pretty good. He is not in a position to see the kinds of things (on the roads, such as per Old Soldier, and otherwise) that have given lots of Americans cases of Negro Fatigue.
Another thing is that Mr. Sailer gets data on traffic deaths. There may be stats of ticketing, revoked licenses, etc, but I've not read any posts by him that start from there. Those are subject to lots of arguments vs the road deaths, where, you can't argue - someone got someone killed by driving badly. So, he doesn't SEE all the stupid driving habits of black people, and he doesn't have the stats.
His "decent", I guess, means within some low 2-digit percentage off White people's numbers, so "not too bad" - just my opinion on what he meant and his lack of real-world experience, Mr. Hail.
Rex Little
Saturday - August 24th 2024 8:32PM MST
PS
Blacks have good reason to fear mass immigration, beyond the "free stuff" issue. Immigrant workers compete with blacks for low-skill jobs, immigrant gangs compete with blacks for turf, and blacks get their lunch eaten on both fronts.
Blacks have good reason to fear mass immigration, beyond the "free stuff" issue. Immigrant workers compete with blacks for low-skill jobs, immigrant gangs compete with blacks for turf, and blacks get their lunch eaten on both fronts.
Old Soldier
Saturday - August 24th 2024 6:29PM MST
PS
I've been on the roads of America for several decades and even spent a few years on the Autobahns and by ways of Europe. I've never been ticketed (except for one parking ticket) in 1990.
During my most recent time on the road (last 10 - 15 years), I've noticed: (a) those breaking the MOST traffic laws are almost exclusively black, (b) blacks simply will not use their turn signals at all, (c) blacks are very quick to cut others off while driving, (d) blacks are prone to stop in the traffic lane, regardless of other traffic, just to chat with others and get ROYALLY PISSED when anyone says anything at all to them about blocking other traffic from passing through, (e) blacks are the most likely to simply refuse to wear seat belts, (f) blacks that I see driving seem to frequently be on their cell phone discussing Heaven only knows what while driving at 25 over the posted speed limit, (g) blacks are the most likely to be driving a poorly maintained vehicle (headlight(s) out, tag light out, tail light out, busted windshield, etc), (h) blacks are intent on playing their rap music LOUD enough to cause their kids hearing problems later in life (and while playing rap music instilling hatred of whites - look up rap music lyrics online for the lyrics), (I) blacks seem to have a thing about allowing 2 or 3 small children ride in their vehicles while NOT restrained in child seats (I've called the cops several times when I saw this and watched the cops handcuff the drivers), etc etc. I could certainly go on and on. The point is simple - blacks seem to be the ones intent on drawing cops attention to their own very poor driving and being a total pain in the neck to other safer drivers on the road.
And we wonder why our auto insurance rates keep skyrocketing??? ...and why we need so many cops on the road???
I cannot attest, personally, to "Blacks were better drivers than Whites until about 2015"? Their poor driving habits are just what I notice almost every time I get on the road and encounter other drivers. It's something that I've noticed for a long time, the 2015 part I'm not sure of, specifically.
I've been on the roads of America for several decades and even spent a few years on the Autobahns and by ways of Europe. I've never been ticketed (except for one parking ticket) in 1990.
During my most recent time on the road (last 10 - 15 years), I've noticed: (a) those breaking the MOST traffic laws are almost exclusively black, (b) blacks simply will not use their turn signals at all, (c) blacks are very quick to cut others off while driving, (d) blacks are prone to stop in the traffic lane, regardless of other traffic, just to chat with others and get ROYALLY PISSED when anyone says anything at all to them about blocking other traffic from passing through, (e) blacks are the most likely to simply refuse to wear seat belts, (f) blacks that I see driving seem to frequently be on their cell phone discussing Heaven only knows what while driving at 25 over the posted speed limit, (g) blacks are the most likely to be driving a poorly maintained vehicle (headlight(s) out, tag light out, tail light out, busted windshield, etc), (h) blacks are intent on playing their rap music LOUD enough to cause their kids hearing problems later in life (and while playing rap music instilling hatred of whites - look up rap music lyrics online for the lyrics), (I) blacks seem to have a thing about allowing 2 or 3 small children ride in their vehicles while NOT restrained in child seats (I've called the cops several times when I saw this and watched the cops handcuff the drivers), etc etc. I could certainly go on and on. The point is simple - blacks seem to be the ones intent on drawing cops attention to their own very poor driving and being a total pain in the neck to other safer drivers on the road.
And we wonder why our auto insurance rates keep skyrocketing??? ...and why we need so many cops on the road???
I cannot attest, personally, to "Blacks were better drivers than Whites until about 2015"? Their poor driving habits are just what I notice almost every time I get on the road and encounter other drivers. It's something that I've noticed for a long time, the 2015 part I'm not sure of, specifically.
Hail
Saturday - August 24th 2024 5:10PM MST
PS
-- Sailer's traffic death --
Steve Sailer, today:
"African Americans were pretty decent drivers relative to whites until the Ferguson Effect got rolling..."
Sailer is generally known as a rigorous analyzer of things. But sometimes he half-ironically or facetiously makes big unsupportable statements, which make huge leaps of logic or just glide past important things in a reckless way. The question has to be: "good drivers" controlled for age, 'gender'? Controlled for rural vs urban etc? Controlled for miles driven?
Does he really think "Blacks were better drivers than Whites until about 2015"? That absolutely does not align with my experience, where invariably a poor driver or someone doing something wrong or causing problems is Black at a rate several times above the percent of population one would expect to be driving there.
Are there any Peak Stupidians to confirm or deny by observation?
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Another problem with the Sailer "Black Traffic Statistics" beat is, it's not a large effect in absolute terms, when you have x million "Third Worlders" waved into the USA and given tacit permanent permission to stay.
-- Sailer's traffic death --
Steve Sailer, today:
"African Americans were pretty decent drivers relative to whites until the Ferguson Effect got rolling..."
Sailer is generally known as a rigorous analyzer of things. But sometimes he half-ironically or facetiously makes big unsupportable statements, which make huge leaps of logic or just glide past important things in a reckless way. The question has to be: "good drivers" controlled for age, 'gender'? Controlled for rural vs urban etc? Controlled for miles driven?
Does he really think "Blacks were better drivers than Whites until about 2015"? That absolutely does not align with my experience, where invariably a poor driver or someone doing something wrong or causing problems is Black at a rate several times above the percent of population one would expect to be driving there.
Are there any Peak Stupidians to confirm or deny by observation?
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Another problem with the Sailer "Black Traffic Statistics" beat is, it's not a large effect in absolute terms, when you have x million "Third Worlders" waved into the USA and given tacit permanent permission to stay.
Hail
Saturday - August 24th 2024 4:25PM MST
PS
Theory: Paul Krugman is an undeclared agent of a certain influential foreign power whose name is similar to the phrase "Isn't Real", a power which has penetrated the U.S. media and Congress to such a degree that he, Paul Krugman, is untouchable.
Theory: Paul Krugman is an undeclared agent of a certain influential foreign power whose name is similar to the phrase "Isn't Real", a power which has penetrated the U.S. media and Congress to such a degree that he, Paul Krugman, is untouchable.
Adam Smith
Saturday - August 24th 2024 2:52PM MST
PS: Good evening, Gentlemen!
𝑆ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑏𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑡𝑜 𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑒𝑚𝑖𝑔𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒.
𝑁𝑜𝑤, 𝑙𝑒𝑡'𝑠 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝐺𝑂 𝐻𝑂𝑀𝐸!
Oh no! Please don't go...
Whatever shall we do without you? </Sarcasm>
In all honesty, though, Krugman's record is pretty amazing...
I mean, how can someone be so wrong, so often, about so may things, and still retain a job? It's wild...
Mind Boggled... ☮️
𝑆ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑟𝑜𝑡𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑏𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑡𝑜 𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑟𝑎𝑔𝑒 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑒𝑚𝑖𝑔𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒.
𝑁𝑜𝑤, 𝑙𝑒𝑡'𝑠 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝐺𝑂 𝐻𝑂𝑀𝐸!
Oh no! Please don't go...
Whatever shall we do without you? </Sarcasm>
In all honesty, though, Krugman's record is pretty amazing...
I mean, how can someone be so wrong, so often, about so may things, and still retain a job? It's wild...
Mind Boggled... ☮️
Moderator
Saturday - August 24th 2024 2:09PM MST
PS: "If you don't like that, check back today for the latest updates and number-crunching on Black traffic statistics." Yeaaaahhh, but I might have to wash my hair then, so ...
He's right and all, but I just don't care as much about the numbers. I get the idea.
Regarding Thomas Sowell, he was reaching with his contention that blacks got bad habits from redneck White people, but otherwise, I have a lot of respect for the guy. Indeed he's an old timer and could have been a help to black people who could understand his basic points on economics and self-sufficiency, etc. Alas, the 1960s happened and Johnson's Great Society came into being... no room for wisdom like that from Thomas Sowell.
Then, that Paul Krugman, no, I never read any wisdom from him.
He's right and all, but I just don't care as much about the numbers. I get the idea.
Regarding Thomas Sowell, he was reaching with his contention that blacks got bad habits from redneck White people, but otherwise, I have a lot of respect for the guy. Indeed he's an old timer and could have been a help to black people who could understand his basic points on economics and self-sufficiency, etc. Alas, the 1960s happened and Johnson's Great Society came into being... no room for wisdom like that from Thomas Sowell.
Then, that Paul Krugman, no, I never read any wisdom from him.
Moderator
Saturday - August 24th 2024 2:04PM MST
PS: Mr. Hail, from your link to the book info:
"Don't see it at your library?"
"Try updating your location, or search on WorldCat."
Hell, no. You go into your local branch today, not tomorrow. and threaten to burn the place to the ground if they don't obtain 10 copies within the week... placed on the shelf right in front, next to the biographies of Kamala, dammit!
"Don't see it at your library?"
"Try updating your location, or search on WorldCat."
Hell, no. You go into your local branch today, not tomorrow. and threaten to burn the place to the ground if they don't obtain 10 copies within the week... placed on the shelf right in front, next to the biographies of Kamala, dammit!
Hail
Saturday - August 24th 2024 10:21AM MST
PS
"Are there any long-term thinkers who are considered black leaders"
Thomas Sowell came out with an editorial this week takes some jabs at Trump, not because he is anti-Trump but because he views the Trump-2024 campaign as sluggish and waiting to be defeated by the artificial Regime-candidate "Kamala Harris."
"Republicans Better get on the ball," by Thomas Sowell, Wall Street Journal, August 23, 2024.
Probably Thomas Sowell was shocked into writing the op-ed as an economist, after hearing Kamala's campaign pledges to support rent controls and price controls, a true "bete noir" of almost any active economist today.
(The only economist who defended Kamala's prince-controls promise was the anti-Trump hate-propagandist Paul Krugman. He defended the Kamala price-controls by saying it won't be that bad so just deal with it, or something; a few bread lines never hurt anybody; just DON'T freeze aid to Israel, you breadless bigots).
Thomas Sowell is now 94. At his age, he is close enough in time to that era of a century ago when Blacks had a degree of self-respect and desire for ethno-racial self-determination. Though Sowell himself is not a Black separatist, he is also not in favor of being a placid class of passive political consumers and, to use a terminology I would favor, "Regime pets."
"Are there any long-term thinkers who are considered black leaders"
Thomas Sowell came out with an editorial this week takes some jabs at Trump, not because he is anti-Trump but because he views the Trump-2024 campaign as sluggish and waiting to be defeated by the artificial Regime-candidate "Kamala Harris."
"Republicans Better get on the ball," by Thomas Sowell, Wall Street Journal, August 23, 2024.
Probably Thomas Sowell was shocked into writing the op-ed as an economist, after hearing Kamala's campaign pledges to support rent controls and price controls, a true "bete noir" of almost any active economist today.
(The only economist who defended Kamala's prince-controls promise was the anti-Trump hate-propagandist Paul Krugman. He defended the Kamala price-controls by saying it won't be that bad so just deal with it, or something; a few bread lines never hurt anybody; just DON'T freeze aid to Israel, you breadless bigots).
Thomas Sowell is now 94. At his age, he is close enough in time to that era of a century ago when Blacks had a degree of self-respect and desire for ethno-racial self-determination. Though Sowell himself is not a Black separatist, he is also not in favor of being a placid class of passive political consumers and, to use a terminology I would favor, "Regime pets."
Hail
Saturday - August 24th 2024 10:12AM MST
PS
"that college admissions business bores the daylights out of me"
If you don't like that, check back today for the latest updates and number-crunching on Black traffic statistics.
"that college admissions business bores the daylights out of me"
If you don't like that, check back today for the latest updates and number-crunching on Black traffic statistics.
Hail
Saturday - August 24th 2024 10:08AM MST
PS
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Blaxit_Effect/fgstzwEACAAJ
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Blaxit_Effect/fgstzwEACAAJ
Hail
Saturday - August 24th 2024 10:07AM MST
PS
THE BLAXIT EFFECT, p.109, I quote:
"Money can be a major source of stress when making your Blaxit.
THE BLAXIT EFFECT, p.109, I quote:
"Money can be a major source of stress when making your Blaxit.
Moderator
Saturday - August 24th 2024 5:46AM MST
PS: It's his hobby - he admitted it in a clever way in his post - but that college admissions business bores the daylights out of me. Yeah, I understand the stats.
Back when I was commenting on TUR I told him and commenters that they weren't going to just up and obey the SCROTUS in spirit or letter of the ruling. D.I.E. departments are being closed on campuses and in some big businesses, but the general anti-White practices rhetoric will not stop so easily. There are people that want this to continue.
Back when I was commenting on TUR I told him and commenters that they weren't going to just up and obey the SCROTUS in spirit or letter of the ruling. D.I.E. departments are being closed on campuses and in some big businesses, but the general anti-White practices rhetoric will not stop so easily. There are people that want this to continue.
Moderator
Saturday - August 24th 2024 5:40AM MST
PS: "(NOTE: I approve this message.)" #MeToo
Ha, even if it were a serious movement with 100,000 black people blaxiting annually, we're importing many more than that, as I discussed in 2 posts here (look in race/genetics) called "Out of Africa."
I can't help it anyway: Godspeed, Noelle Wright-Young! That sounds very Right-Stuffy, with that aviation sounding name even.
I do wish her and the other one good luck, but it'll only work with a few living on the dollar. Even without a dollar collapse, with a significant number of ex-American free spending blacks in one place the prices will go up to match, and they will have to live like West Africans. They ain't agonna like that... to begin with... can they get used to the old ways (and low quality of life) of their Mudderland?
Ha, even if it were a serious movement with 100,000 black people blaxiting annually, we're importing many more than that, as I discussed in 2 posts here (look in race/genetics) called "Out of Africa."
I can't help it anyway: Godspeed, Noelle Wright-Young! That sounds very Right-Stuffy, with that aviation sounding name even.
I do wish her and the other one good luck, but it'll only work with a few living on the dollar. Even without a dollar collapse, with a significant number of ex-American free spending blacks in one place the prices will go up to match, and they will have to live like West Africans. They ain't agonna like that... to begin with... can they get used to the old ways (and low quality of life) of their Mudderland?
Moderator
Saturday - August 24th 2024 5:33AM MST
PS: Mr. Hail, I went to SteveSailer.net and read your comments, others', and the posts. Blacks had lots of the same dysfunction, by nature, a century ago, as they do now. However, it wasn't put up with by White people, so they were forced to constrain it to within their communities and to a lower level. Without the 1960s enhanced Socialism, with the D-party being their benefactors, would things have gotten this bad?
I think no, but it wasn't just the politics. There's also been this dysgenic breeding.
Back to the politics though, for someone who thinks short-term, this D-party patronage works pretty well for them. In the long run, no it doesn't. Are there any long-term thinkers who are considered black leaders. She may not have been a black "leader" per se, but black woman congressman Barbara Jordan in 1990s was very strong against the immigration invasion. One could read about her more (not on VDare*) to see whether she cared about this for the sake of black people (that's OK, as it was still helpful) or for the sake of Americans, period.
* That's an interesting thing. As per one of the commenters' links the other day, we can still get to the articles on VDare, but we can't go to categories and try to find it. (I didn't notice if there's still a search box on that home page, but search never worked well for me there anyway.
I think no, but it wasn't just the politics. There's also been this dysgenic breeding.
Back to the politics though, for someone who thinks short-term, this D-party patronage works pretty well for them. In the long run, no it doesn't. Are there any long-term thinkers who are considered black leaders. She may not have been a black "leader" per se, but black woman congressman Barbara Jordan in 1990s was very strong against the immigration invasion. One could read about her more (not on VDare*) to see whether she cared about this for the sake of black people (that's OK, as it was still helpful) or for the sake of Americans, period.
* That's an interesting thing. As per one of the commenters' links the other day, we can still get to the articles on VDare, but we can't go to categories and try to find it. (I didn't notice if there's still a search box on that home page, but search never worked well for me there anyway.
Hail
Friday - August 23rd 2024 8:04PM MST
PS
Blacks...can be mad at Hispanics and some others for taking "Black jobs" (Trump's line), which is "pressure from below"; BUT, they can also -- more easily, more Regime-friendly -- be mad at Whites for suppressing their artificial advantages at the top, "pressure from above."
(It's probably true there would be no Barack Obama presidency without "affirmative action," for one. And lots and lots of ways that Blacks are artificially successful all across U.S. culture in our time.)
Here's Steve Sailer spinning his wheels on the mixed data on Black admissions to MIT. They're now admitted at an inflated-rate only about 4x above the natural level instead of the above-10x inflated-entry rate they squeezed in after the Illegal Murder of George Floyd... This is compliance with th anti-affirmative-action Supreme Court ruling by a form of passive-aggressive behavior or deceptive marketing, the one where a store will double the sticker-price on an item, announce a Buy One Get One Free, and many consumers think they're getting a good deal.
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/mit-cuts-black-freshmen-share-from
Blacks...can be mad at Hispanics and some others for taking "Black jobs" (Trump's line), which is "pressure from below"; BUT, they can also -- more easily, more Regime-friendly -- be mad at Whites for suppressing their artificial advantages at the top, "pressure from above."
(It's probably true there would be no Barack Obama presidency without "affirmative action," for one. And lots and lots of ways that Blacks are artificially successful all across U.S. culture in our time.)
Here's Steve Sailer spinning his wheels on the mixed data on Black admissions to MIT. They're now admitted at an inflated-rate only about 4x above the natural level instead of the above-10x inflated-entry rate they squeezed in after the Illegal Murder of George Floyd... This is compliance with th anti-affirmative-action Supreme Court ruling by a form of passive-aggressive behavior or deceptive marketing, the one where a store will double the sticker-price on an item, announce a Buy One Get One Free, and many consumers think they're getting a good deal.
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/mit-cuts-black-freshmen-share-from
Hail
Friday - August 23rd 2024 7:23PM MST
PS
Speaking of a Black "ethno-racial independence movement," I recently run across a very interesting little book published in 2022:
"The Blaxit Effect: The African-American's Guide to Relocating to Africa," by Noelle Ojo, 2022.
The author was born Noelle Wright-Young. She is an 'ADOS'-Black. She is along-term 'expatriate' living in West Africa. She wrote this book to encourage others to emigrate.
From the Foreword, by another ex-American Black 'returnee':
"It is now in your hands to match the knowing with ACTION in order to create a transformation in your life, and those of your descendants. Now, let's prepare to GO HOME!"
(NOTE: I approve this message.)
Speaking of a Black "ethno-racial independence movement," I recently run across a very interesting little book published in 2022:
"The Blaxit Effect: The African-American's Guide to Relocating to Africa," by Noelle Ojo, 2022.
The author was born Noelle Wright-Young. She is an 'ADOS'-Black. She is along-term 'expatriate' living in West Africa. She wrote this book to encourage others to emigrate.
From the Foreword, by another ex-American Black 'returnee':
"It is now in your hands to match the knowing with ACTION in order to create a transformation in your life, and those of your descendants. Now, let's prepare to GO HOME!"
(NOTE: I approve this message.)
Hail
Friday - August 23rd 2024 7:17PM MST
PS
I wrote on the SteveSailer.net blog a few weeks ago about how ridiculous Black politics are in the USA:
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/nyt-who-is-robbing-and-murdering/comment/63020482
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"black politicians are very pro migrant even though their constituents are being replaced"
There is no way that U.S. Black leaders of one century ago would go along with this. At least many/most of them had a sense of interests and ethno-racial independence.
By the late-20th century, a stable system emerged in which Blacks became passive consumers of political-goodies distributed by the Regime, as represented by the Democratic Party.
By our time, it's really both parties doing it; Trump did it plenty -- and he is generally forgiven for it by so many of his White supporters, who are themselves desperate for a political home, who are themselves locked-in to giving symbolic support for "their side" regardless of the details.
With Blacks, you do see it clearly: With no serious ethno-racial independence movement today (of the kind you saw all over the place in the early-20th century fading into the mid-20th century), Blacks really are satisfied to be passive political consumers. A learned-helplessness. I see some of the same in Whites, vis-a-vis the now-multiculturalized MAGA movement.
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I wrote on the SteveSailer.net blog a few weeks ago about how ridiculous Black politics are in the USA:
https://www.stevesailer.net/p/nyt-who-is-robbing-and-murdering/comment/63020482
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"black politicians are very pro migrant even though their constituents are being replaced"
There is no way that U.S. Black leaders of one century ago would go along with this. At least many/most of them had a sense of interests and ethno-racial independence.
By the late-20th century, a stable system emerged in which Blacks became passive consumers of political-goodies distributed by the Regime, as represented by the Democratic Party.
By our time, it's really both parties doing it; Trump did it plenty -- and he is generally forgiven for it by so many of his White supporters, who are themselves desperate for a political home, who are themselves locked-in to giving symbolic support for "their side" regardless of the details.
With Blacks, you do see it clearly: With no serious ethno-racial independence movement today (of the kind you saw all over the place in the early-20th century fading into the mid-20th century), Blacks really are satisfied to be passive political consumers. A learned-helplessness. I see some of the same in Whites, vis-a-vis the now-multiculturalized MAGA movement.
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Moderator
Friday - August 23rd 2024 4:25PM MST
PS: Yes, O.S., that stuff just happens to black people more. They are subject to high prison rates, high HS drop-out rates, and the like. Dang!
No argument with your 2nd paragraph either.
No argument with your 2nd paragraph either.
Old Soldier
Friday - August 23rd 2024 12:58PM MST
PS
And the comment: "Blacks are struggling more than any other demographic," the voter said. "We got the highest prison rate, highest high school dropout rate. Highest murder rate. What’s in it for us?" Uh huh. And WHO can change those situations ANY DAY THEY WANT??? ...but they never even try to change anything. Self centered is the ONLY game with blacks. It's always TAKE and NEVER GIVE BACK.
Now, the Joseph Goebbels media is already pretending that kamala has had no role whatsoever in the Biden regime’s numerous calamities (border crisis, Afghanistan withdrawal, etc). Soon, they'll be claiming she was never the Vice President because of...who knows what part of history they'll pervert to 'prove' their lies this time. And the decrepit old white geezer will be replaced by a stupid wh*** whose only accomplishment is, when 30 years old, banging her 60 year old boss for promotions up to and including Attorney General of California...and maybe US President. If she manages to fully sleep her way to the top, what kind of example will that provide younger generations...maybe shades of Bill Clinton (i.e. the 'messed up' blue dress)???
And the comment: "Blacks are struggling more than any other demographic," the voter said. "We got the highest prison rate, highest high school dropout rate. Highest murder rate. What’s in it for us?" Uh huh. And WHO can change those situations ANY DAY THEY WANT??? ...but they never even try to change anything. Self centered is the ONLY game with blacks. It's always TAKE and NEVER GIVE BACK.
Now, the Joseph Goebbels media is already pretending that kamala has had no role whatsoever in the Biden regime’s numerous calamities (border crisis, Afghanistan withdrawal, etc). Soon, they'll be claiming she was never the Vice President because of...who knows what part of history they'll pervert to 'prove' their lies this time. And the decrepit old white geezer will be replaced by a stupid wh*** whose only accomplishment is, when 30 years old, banging her 60 year old boss for promotions up to and including Attorney General of California...and maybe US President. If she manages to fully sleep her way to the top, what kind of example will that provide younger generations...maybe shades of Bill Clinton (i.e. the 'messed up' blue dress)???