Posted On: Wednesday - July 31st 2024 6:17PM MST
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(Continued from 1st 15 minutes - - 2nd 15 minutes - - 3rd 15 minutes - - 4th 15 minutes - - 5th 15 minutes - - 6th 15 minutes and 7th 15 minutes.)
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Tucker [01:43:30] Is there a point? I mean, I'm asking this question because South Africa, you know, tried this in the country is just continuously degraded for, well, 30 years this year and to the point where there's no electricity in parts at times, and the murder rate is among the highest in the world, the rape rate is the highest in the world. And but there's no deceleration that I can tell from afar, thousands of miles away. But I'm watching and it's like, no, there's no second guessing. It's just like going to ride it right back to the Stone age. Pretend it was never an advanced society in our country, which is different from South Africa in a lot of ways. Will there be a point, like when the planes do crash and the air traffic controllers are just high, or too dumb, or distract or don't care, to keep the points from crashing? Will there be a public demand like, no, no, no, let's just hire by ability from now on?
Steve Sailer [01:45:31] Of it is we just we got really good pilots these days, in part because congressmen worry about stuff like that. Now are we?
Steve Sailer [01:45:41] You know. But on the other hand, the.
Steve Sailer [01:45:44] Obama administration came along and basically sabotaged the, system for hiring, air traffic controllers. And, Congress has set up a pretty good system for finding good people in the 90s.
Steve Sailer [01:46:01] But, yeah.
Steve Sailer [01:46:02] It turned out to be. It's like white men really like air traffic. They really like airplanes.
Steve Sailer [01:46:07] It's like, you.
Steve Sailer [01:46:08] Know, what is what is a what have white men ever done with airplanes since the Wright brothers?
Steve Sailer [01:46:14] So there there. So what happens is then you get fewer people still make it make it through the training. So the training is been kept pretty legitimate. So you flunk out more people, which then means. That you're. You're under the number of air traffic controllers you expected. So you you're making them work really long hours, and they're getting more and more tired on the job, and they're making mistakes and stuff like that. And it tracks back to the Obama administration's DUI program for for air traffic controllers. Can we avoid that? Yeah, we we can. We just got to talk about it. And we just can't just shut down discussion by saying, are you saying that. A stereotype that on average, blacks wouldn't make as good air traffic controllers as whites? And the answer is yeah, yeah, I'm saying that. So you expect to have a few percentage passing the test and we can live with it.
Steve Sailer [01:47:27] We we live with it every day in sports that there are racial differences and performance on average. And nobody cares that much.
Steve Sailer [01:47:37] And you know, God bless them.
Steve Sailer [01:47:40] We love sports. So yeah, there are there is hope for the country that we can go back..
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Steve Sailer [01:47:45] ... and have a philosphy for things, you know, like jet travel that were ... we consider as important as the NFL, and therefore we can't have racial quotas getting in the way. That doesn't seem out of ... outlandish.
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Tucker [01:48:03] No it doesn't. So last question, and I'm sure began with this, but maybe you've. I just want to push a little more. Why do you think that you're able to have these conversations? And when you travel the country talking about your book, you're not attacked. And, you know, speaking of good signs. Do you take that as a good sign that the country's becoming, open?
Missing a whole bunch here from both Tucker and Steve, dang it, for over a minute!
Steve Sailer [01:48:31] Well, yeah. Somebody suggested to me, it's like, well, Steve, you're in Ideas that I've been propounding for 30 years and people out there going the other saylor's ideas, they make sense. He's like, the most reasonable guy in America. Maybe, you know, we've gone through a watershed, and we're beyond the meaning of. The racial reckoning and the Great Awakening. Knock on wood. I hope so.
Tucker [01:50:15] Or for this period, ten years from now, is described as the dark ages where Steve Saylor was actually in public. Yeah. I mean, face uncovered.
Steve Sailer [01:50:27] I mean, what do you think I mean? All right, let me ask you why. Why me in particular? But I but I.
Steve Sailer [01:50:37] Became sort of the Lord Voldemort, whose name cannot be, cannot be mentioned.
Steve Sailer [01:50:43] When I'm just, you know, this kind of, to.
Steve Sailer [01:50:47] My mind, this very kind of public spirited.
Steve Sailer [01:50:51] Benevolent guy.
Steve Sailer [01:50:53] Who can see both sides of various problems.
Tucker [01:50:55] Well, I've always thought that. I've always thought that you were particularly threatening because you're so obviously moderate by temperament. You're just clearly not a hater. You can smell that on people instantly. You're very reasonable, and you use the language that the left would like to keep for itself, like of science, of reason, of data. Yeah. And and you actually argue from that basis and they'd like a monopoly on that. And so there's something really threatening about a guy who's like, no, actually no. Here the numbers. And doesn't raise his voice. That's way more threatening than some guy who's jumping up and down on cable news or, you know, sending crazy tweets all day long. That person is, you know, his potential audience is much smaller than yours. Your potential audience is like, you know, sort of any open minded person who'd like to solve a problem. That's always been my thought.
Steve Sailer [01:51:53] Yeah, yeah, I hope so. But yeah, I, yeah, it's it's it's been, you.
Tucker [01:52:05] Did it bother you when they called you a Nazi or white supremacist or when they threw these slurs at you first?
Steve Sailer [01:53:17] No. My last memories of my father before he died at 95 was, Pat sent me one of his new books, and he'd gone through and put post-it notes on every page where he quoted me or made reference to some concept of mine. So I showed it to my dad, and he read it, he looked through it all the. Things that Pat had with his own hand and said. All the nice things he'd said about me and was like, well. You're this is. Great. And you know, that was like the last thing or the last interaction before he died. And then I think Pat Buchanan for. And a lot. Of people have good stories about Pat Buchanan.
Tucker [01:53:58] What a, what a nice man.
Steve Sailer [01:53:59] Yes, absolutely. You know.
Tucker [01:54:03] So, I mean, I guess it could kind of go either way. It depends on who's writing the history. I mean, I bet I'd bet money that, you know, Pat Buchanan is described in 50 years from. There's not a single living person who actually knew him, you know, some sort of monster or hate or something like that, wouldn't you think?
Steve Sailer [01:54:21] Yeah. I mean. I mean, they say.
Steve Sailer [01:54:25] Histories were written by the winners. My impression is more history is written by historians who got paid by one side or the other, not necessarily the winners to write the history. So, you know, for 100 years after the Civil War in the United States, the South, which was mostly pretty broke, but they could still scrape together enough money to pay historians to write the story of the Lost Cause.
Steve Sailer [01:55:14] We'll have different heroes all of a sudden. You know, that's maybe you and you and me will come out looking pretty good business.
Tucker [01:55:23] Well, I have trouble believing that, but I admire you. Steve, so thank you very much.
Steve Sailer [01:55:31] Tucker, Thanks.
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Wednesday - July 31st 2024 10:08PM MST
PS
Why was it divided into eight parts?
Why was it divided into eight parts?
How about we all comment under that one, to keep this simple? So, stand by for that, this afternoon. I didn't check yet whether there are any comments under 1 through 7.
It was kind of a mess, doing this. What's.a shame is that there may be some other small sections of discussion missing. (I may think about listening to the whole thing while reading here...)