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This is one of those gettin'-around-to-it posts. If you're new to Peak Stupidity or you want to check back on the other posts, see Tucker Carlson interviews The Most Reasonable Guy in America - - Tucker/iSteve interview: Who/whom? - - Tucker/iSteve interview: the Kung Flu question and Tucker/iSteve interview: Coming to America.
Here, in the next 6 posts for the sake of the website, we present the "whole" transcript. With those quote marks, I indicate that, though this goes all the way through the nearly 2 hours, a few pieces of discussion are missing. I noted before that one was on an important point, and I just found another which I'll insert myself - the dashes will indicate that part - and yet another as I was listening after that. It was too long for me to fix right now. So, this is NOT the whole transcript, unfortunately*
Also, it is a talk, so with the two of them not sure when to continue, you'll see parts that read weirder (yeah both WEIRD guys, right?) than they'd sound.
Believe me, we read so much faster than we listen**, so this may take only 15 to 30 minutes to read through. I have one funny thing to point out at the end involving the auto-transcription.
From the TuckerCarlson.com site:
Episode Details
Steve Sailer is an opinion journalist whose anthology “Noticing” from Passage Press sums up his three decade career. His new Substack is SteveSailer.net and he posts on X as @Steve_Sailer.
Chapters
The Great Awokening / George Floyd
The fall of the NYT / Anti-white racism in the media
Why do Republicans put up with accusations of racism?
How Steve Sailer Predicted Election Outcomes
Is the country becoming more open and receptive?
Read The Transcript
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Tucker [00:00:20] So I got to say it. It's a little weird to be sitting across from you in my barn. I was thinking this morning. You were. You're almost like Matt Drudge used to be. You know, everyone read the Drudge Report starting in the 90s. But no one wanted to admit it in the news business, but everybody read it. But Drudge himself was this mysterious figure. Actually, no, I'm sort of. I've never met you. Everybody I know on both sides has read you for years. You're not crazy. You're not a bigot. But somehow you became a sort of mysterious outlaw figure that no one was allowed to meet or talk to. Is it weird to be out in public?
Steve Sailer [00:00:56] Yeah. Actually is I, you know, for ten years, from 2013 into 2023 you basically couldn't go see Steve Sailer give a speech anywhere. You know, I was I was being signed up for conferences. My the last speech I gave in 2013 was analysis of the Obama versus Romney exit polls didn't seem all that controversial to me. But for the next decade, every time I'd be invited to a conference in about six weeks later, I'd get an email going. Well, it turned out media matters went to the hotel. And said that this is just deplorable. And you might find. Also that the local Antifa, the black bloc guys, were thinking about protesting and, you know, how that can turn into violence and so forth. So they canceled their contract. I just kept writing, but suddenly I started to break up maybe last year. And this year I've been doing traveling around the country and meeting people who've been reading me for years or just started reading me.
Tucker [00:02:18] It's just funny, though, because, you know, in a world where there are some wackos and there are people who advocate violence, you would seem to be maybe the last person who would scare people. I mean, you're effectively an informal academic or social scientist. Your a numbers guy.
Steve Sailer [00:02:33] Yeah, I'm kind of like Bill James, the baseball statistics analyst. First, the social sciences in the US. For three years now, I've been raising a stink. What was the impact of Black Lives Matter on black lives? And as far as I can tell, it's got Black Lives Matter. During the two eras of triumph after Ferguson and in 20 1516. And then the big one during the Floyd effect, the racial reckoning of the 2020s. Murdered through homicide we see an incremental homicides versus the baseline, or just splattered on the pavement through increased traffic fatalities.
Tucker [00:03:24] But also all killed by white cops.
Steve Sailer [00:03:26] No. The vast majority of black shooting deaths is at the hands of other blacks. There was a for example, in 2020, there was just an enormous explosion in mass shootings with at least four dead or wounded at black social events. Somewhat some of them are organized crime, very strategic, like in the TV show The Wire. But a lot is just one guy. This is another guy. And people pull out guns and start shooting and, yeah, yeah, very little interest to the Democratic establishment. The need for what I call point of view gun control. The Democrats tend to obsess over the need for point of of sale gun control to keep rednecks out in the country from buying rifles, legally, buying rifles at Walmart. And in truth, what we've seen. This like in the 1990s and the 20 tens in New York City, where people like Giuliani, Bloomberg and Bratton did a great job of bringing down the murder rate. What really works is point of use gun control. You discourage lowlifes from packing their illegal handguns. When they go out because they're more worried about the cops.
Steve Sailer [00:05:46] You know, nobody understands it. So in, in, during the Great Awakening of the last decade, and especially during the, the what was called, we used to be called the racial reckoning before the whole George Floyd thing is pretty much got a memory hold lately. Just huge increases in the black deaths by murder and by car crash.
Tucker [00:06:08] Okay, so can we back up? You said a bunch of things. So, want a follow up? Yeah. But let's just start at the very beginning. You said the George Floyd thing has been effectively memory holed. Yeah. What was the. You know, it's been almost exactly four years since that happened.
Steve Sailer [00:06:22] Yeah.
Tucker [00:06:23] Memorial day 2020. With that, the benefit of, you know, some time to think about it. What was that?
Steve Sailer [00:06:44] Huge increase in the murder rate, especially among blacks. The murder rate was 44%. More blacks were killed, by homicide in 2021 than in 2019, the year before. And 39% more blacks died in car crashes in 2021 than in 2000.
Steve Sailer [00:07:08] Hard crashes? Yeah, it all ties together because. The establishment, as they did after George Floyd's death, said, okay, here's the truth about it. Carrying illegal handguns more. And and the number of shootings, the number of homicides just went through the roof. Murder narrative, you know, going back, blowing away the Saint Valentine's Day massacre by Al Capone and all that was May 31st, 2020, six days after George Floyd's death, when 18 Chicagoans were murdered that day. Why? Pretty much because the cops went down to the Magnificent Mile to keep it from being torched and looted, and the word quickly got around that you can do anything you want in the neighborhood, and nobody's going. On random people out there for, you know, for personal reasons. And then it just went on and on for several more years. Fortunately, last year or so, the murder rate started finally.
Tucker [00:09:34] You don't think there's any and you have the numbers, right? Yeah. Can we see them now? You don't think there's any question that this was related? Yeah. To the Floyd story, to the Floyd events.
Steve Sailer [00:09:49] Let's take a look at the CDC data. Weekly.
Tuker [00:10:00] All right.
Steve Sailer [00:10:01] This is the center for Disease Control, it collects data weekly. All the deaths in the United States. You can ask for any one particular thing. Number of African Americans who died by homicide that week. So it's bouncing around. It has some seasonality. In 2018, 2019 George Floyd dies and suddenly boom, it goes. Peak and then just slowly fades over the next. Four years into 2000.
Tucker [00:10:49] But it's immediate. It's second George Floyd odds. Yeah. People start shooting each other.
Steve Sailer [00:10:54] Yeah. About to probably. Probably the by the Friday after he died on Memorial Day on Monday. It just you know, it was just a giant cultural revolution. And basically people lost fear of the cops because everybody the establishment, media. The politicians were telling the America that we have too much policing, And too much law and order. And so we got a lot more murder, kind of ironic because the name of the movement was Black Lives Matter, and it wound up, getting an enormous number of black lives, murdered. Incremental versus what you see in 2000…..
Tucker [00:11:38] That's not even close calling. I mean, that is absolutely yes.
Steve Sailer [00:11:42] This is one of the biggest findings in the American social sciences, probably since, Angus Deaton and cases finding in 2015 of deaths and despair and how the white working classes life expectancy was dropping in the early 21st century. The other, but also a big part of it. Applies to motor vehicle. Accident deaths. These are homicide deaths as opposed to murders perpetrated. So these these are the races of victims and blacks, Hispanics, whites in blue.
Steve Sailer [00:13:06] You can see you can see nine. You can see.
Steve Sailer [00:13:08] Nine, 11 there. That's what it is. 3000 Americans die by homicide.
Steve Sailer [00:13:13] At the hands of of Al-Qaeda. Okay. And then most.
Steve Sailer [00:13:18] Years you've got. Yeah, you've got more people get murdered in summer than in winter. They're out partying and so forth. But it's pretty consistent.
Steve Sailer [00:13:26] You can see an increase over here. The Ferguson effect after Black Lives Matter emerges in 2014. Which was a pretty decent year. And then all of a sudden. Murders go up dramatically in 20 1516. That helps get Trump elected. You might remember how Black Lives Matter terrorists were assassinating cops in Dallas and Baton Rouge and so forth. Although that's really been memory holed.
Steve Sailer [00:14:02] Anyway. Jeff Sessions came. Kind of told the police departments. No, you know, we are not going to persecute you for for doing your job.
Steve Sailer [00:14:13] Then Trump got rid of sessions, maybe murders started going up a little more. And then comes 2020 and the. And the George Floyd racial reckoning and just enormous increase compared to anything else in the 21st century. Now, one reason we don't hear about this is because these graphs are kind of embarrassing, because the black line of homicide death rate is so much higher than.
Steve Sailer [00:14:42] Then the, the light. Brown Hispanic line there. Hispanics. Actually, in the 21st century, you've done a pretty good job lowering their rate of being Murdered. And finally, though. When the racial reckoning came. Long it got worse again, so we've losing a bunch of that progress. The blue line is the white. It's an order of magnitude below the black line. It's considered really bad taste to notice, you know, differences in the homicide rate.
I'll post next 3 parts within the hour.
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