PS: Good evening, Dieter!

Glad to hear your wife is keeping ahead of the sleepy-eyed snails. We don't have many snails here, so I really don't have to deal with them. (I've probably seen only a half dozen or so in the last 15 years, usually in or near the fountain.)

I do hear that snails (and slugs) love beer and that a little saucer of beer in the garden will lure them to their demise.

https://www.mediastorehouse.com/p/173/garden-snail-drinking-beer-trap-9207389.jpg.webp
https://i.ibb.co/VDJnQSS/snail-trap.jpg

This is what I do with the hornworms...
https://i.ibb.co/mCJ8jbK/Tomato-Hornworm-Caprese.jpg

Just kidding...

Here's a link that includes a video of Nicole Kidman eating tomato hornworms and other bugs...
https://www.foodandwine.com/news/nicole-kidman-bug-eating

I can imagine using hornworms as bait for fishing and I've heard of people feeding them to their reptiles but I just can't imagine eating something so gross and disgusting. (Yuck!)

I used to pluck them off the tomato and smash them between a couple rocks, but I've found it is easier to go hornworm hunting armed with a sharp pair of scissors. I just cut their heads off and all that green goo drips out of them. I have no way of knowing this, but I think that leaving dead hornworms in the garden is like a warning to the others to stay away. (If I went to town and there were a bunch of dead bodies everywhere I would 𝐍𝐨𝐭 stick around.)

Mrs. Smith has a friend of Japanese origin who is an "organic gardener" and she smashes them and rubs the goo on the leaves because she thinks it is a deterrent for the other hornworms. So maybe it helps? I don't know.

I do have to stay diligent. A couple hornworms can really do a bunch of damage pretty quickly. For any hornworm caught trespassing in the garden the punishment is a swift and merciless death!

Hope you have a great evening, Dieter! ☮️

PS
Thx. Adam for the new Book Club files!


And congrats for defending your tomatoes.

Ours are eaten by snails - but not much because
my wife kills them early in hte morning when they are
not quite awake yet.

PS: Possumman, I've replied to people on this subject many a time now, back on the Unz Review. Mr. Brimelow explained this well in the long version and short versions of the whole saga, as did Lydia in her interview with Tucker Carlson.

First, when you read the explanation, believe me, it's not that I think one must play by the book like this, but I'm just conveying the problem as VDare saw/sees it.

The State of New York has a lot of laws constraining business that is incorporated in the State. Apparently - I don't read this shit - you cannot move your companies assets out of NY without PERMISSION from the State, and I assume Big Leticia there has control over this. They don't have such permission to leave NY. I know, I know it sounds ridiculous...

Now, were the assets physical items like vehicles, guns (oops, New York), precious metals, cash, whatever, what could they do about it? As for monetary "instruments", the foundations' bank accounts, bonds or stocks, whatever, I guess NY would stop one from selling these? Or, they wouldn't, but it's illegal to. Like I wrote, I would not be worrying about that, but I also think that VDare wouldn't be that law-abiding, would they?

Adam Smith and I were conversing on this subject 2 posts ago. You just can't play by the rules anymore. Why not tell the big donors that you are refunding their money because VDare can't do the job they expected? Then, knowing these people well, you make sure they are aware you will re-open elsewhere. Then, the money comes back into accounts in W. Virginia, Texas, wherever, and you set the site back up (not even sure about the server part of it - I used to be something of a web guy - I'd want to control this stuff completely - have a good connection and run the servers yourself.)

The cyber warfare that Peter Brimelow talked about toward the end of the 8 minutes is another story. I get the feeling that this part was what made him finally give up the fight. That stuff would have to be stopped, no matter where you virtually relocate.

PS. I don't understand why vdare tried to fight this thing. Tell Leticia James to pound sand and just move your crap out of New York and carry on. What are they going to do?

PS: Good afternoon, Frens!

¡Adios, America! (7.6mb .pdf)
https://tinyurl.com/mrh74p72

Alien Nation (20.6mb .pdf)
https://tinyurl.com/2x8navrd

The Worm in the Apple (19.1mb .pdf)
https://tinyurl.com/28z4efbk

☮️

PS No, Mod, I didn’t mean the presidency of Donald Trump. I expect nothing from a Trump presidency, in the unlikely event that it occurs, that would not be immediately undone the day after he would leave office. I was thinking of actually being in a position to wreak vengeance on our enemies, if only for a while. I’m not a violent person, and I don’t advocate individual violence. But justice requires that those who have visited so much evil upon us should have equal evil visited upon them.

PS: Thank you for coming through yet again, Mr. Smith. I see 3 views already on your channel.

BTW, per the discussion under that previous post on the amount of money spent for lawyers by VDare, Peter Brimelow here said "a million".

Alarmist and Dieter, just for illegals, I'd say 25 to 30 million in the country before the Bai Dien surge. The latter is even harder to document (pun partially intended), but let's take 10 to 15 million. We're talking 35 to 45 million, I'd guess, if I could put money on it.

In addition, yes, fake refugees could add up to many millions. How about all green cards not part of marriage visas - with these being investigated seriously - 1/2 are probably shams - be revoked?

It's not an impossible project - could probably be accomplished in 2 to 5 years, but it'd require the will and the work done to suppress those who will make every effort to impede it at every step. Self-deportation would become a big part of the influx if an actual deportation program were seriously implemented.

PS

As for corrupt, broken courts, consider the case of poor CJ Hopkins in Berlin:

https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/the-peoples-court-of-new-normal-germany

PS

There were circa 45 million persons of foreign birth in the USA in 2019. Sice that is the number the government admits to, consider it to be undercounted. Since Biden took office, at least 12 million migrants walked into the USA and another 4 million went through legal channels. I would not be surprised if the actual number of foreign born persons present in the USA is actually closer to 100 million.

Same goes for the the Merkel Million: Germany officially counted a bit over 13 million persons of foreign birth within its bordersin 2022, but given the serious uptick of crime since 2016, either the newest arrivals are very rapey and stabby, or many more moderately rapey and stabby walked in than the counts admitted to.

PS: Good morning, y'all!

Peter Brimelow on the murder of vdare...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p87xYJ5d1-c

I haven't watched the video yet, and I have not yet read through all your comments, so I don't really have much to say.

But I will have a few books for the book club here in a few minutes. (I also plan on responding to a couple of comments from a previous post. Should of, would of, could of, done it sooner, but...)

And I am happy to report that the tomato hornworm genocide in my garden is proceeding as planned.
(21 dead hornworms mercilessly murdered so far!)

Anyway... Cheers to another beautiful day! ☮️

PS: Mr. Hail, I've got plenty more to write on this, but I'll have to wait until the afternoon. I agree that putting up that transcript would be a good idea. (I read Lydia's long message too.)

Dieter, I can't say I agree with Charles Murray on this. With he being a writer, his use of "dysfunctional" and "broken" can't be just mistakes in his choices of wording. This is all purposeful. The NY Government - and others - feel no compunction to follow the rule of law and be fair.

This is very purposeful. These government vendettas are unConstitutional, yes, corrupt, but also done very well, as far as they are concerned. They are accomplishing their goals, to harass Trump, to harass the NRA, and to shut down the 1/4 century running very important VDare website.

PS: VDare has had writers that varied in their views of the invasion, all of them against it, of course. There was even a Democrat writer (and I'm not talking 1980s or '90s when that wouldn't be surprising) named Don Collins, IIRC.

Regarding Trump, it was Peter Brimelow and maybe a couple of others who called him a "wrecking ball". That was not exactly high praise, as these people as a conglomerate know ALL the details of the various types of immigration scams. (I would hope they'd read each other's stuff, though I get the feeling Steve Sailer hasn't read the articles regularly for a long time.) They detailed all the screw-ups by Trump or just his lack of competency to do the job, the reliance on Javanka, etc. As a wrecking ball, though, the idea was the Trump was truly shaking things up in the Regime, a very good thing.

In a post about "The good, the bad, and the ugly", just before the '20 election, in one of those kinds of excerpts posts, I took the info from one of their good writers to show that Trump really did a lot of good on the invasion under the radar. The numbers, illegal and legal (the Kung Flu having helped in '20) got better steadily under his term. (As I've written, all of this was reversible, and it WAS, on Day One of Dark Brandon's reign of terror.)

I even remember that in articles and posts on VDare, it was said that VDare did not endorse any particular candidate. Maybe this was long ago, but the key word was endorse. As they wrote, anyone who helped against the invasion was on their side. I think they've been pretty fair on that over the years, but that means, well, yeah, in '16, GO TRUMP!

Another thing: Those caravans of mass numbers of invaders were in the news for a long time. "They're coming." "Some got in." "We've stopped them in Mexico." "Trump made a deal with AMLO." (which he did), etc. That gave a lot more visibility into the mass numbers. This is important, as when your average innumerate American sees 10- people got in here this evening, there's probably things like that all along the line, oh, and Hebrew Immigrant Services and then the Lutherans brought in 150 Salvadoran "refugees" to this town and 220 Somalians to that town, they just don't see the big numbers you get when this goes on continually.

Those masses of people in the caravans, shown in pictures and video, were very enlightening to people who "don't do numbers".

PS: Mr. Hail, re your July 24th 2024 8:53PM MST comment:

Yes, right about the 1st quarter of the 21st century it was. What a difference it's been from the start of serious use of the internet to inform to the time of the use of the internet to crush (talking cyber attacks and deplatforming here, in a time when informing people is pretty much dependent on the internet.)

Regarding the change when the LightBringer came into office. I see that as a factor. People, such as me for maybe the first term, did not really see George W. Bush as being no Conservative at all and bent on destruction like the rest of them. Then with Barry-O, I suppose some White people would have seen this replacement operation being pushed and all manner of anti-White efforts. Steve Sailer made another good call that this would go on in earnest in Barry's 2nd term.

However, I would also say that with the raw numbers continually going up, legal at a million yearly, illegal at numbers like that too, and then the offspring, it became more and more obvious by '10 or so that America was being changed, and it wasn't just Miami and California anymore that were becoming foreign.

PS

Alarmist - - - this 60 million - what kind of number is this.
- Any sources?

PS

Charles Murray (The Bell Curve) in the context of the Trump-indictment in NYC:

The New York judicial system is in the hands of warriors of the Democratic Party. They've turned it into something corrupt and dysfunctional.
It is broken.

PS

A brief VDare obituary by Matt Ray:

"VDARE performed a vital service by continuing Peter Brimelow's work from "Alien Nation" and providing a home to some of the other leading lights of the Right such as Sam Francis and Steve Sailer when these issues were hardly addressed anywhere by writers of a similar caliber."

https://x.com/Paleoliberty20/status/1815821708395438344

PS

Ann Coulter says: "It would be far more useful for Elon Musk, David Sacks, and other decent humans to fund VDARE's fight against the lawfare of Letitia James than any other cause. They'll come for you eventually, but it will be too late."

https://x.com/AnnCoulter/status/1815944687259181562

______________

I don't think Steve Sailer has commented publicly. But he did "retweet" (rebraned as "repost") the VDare video in which the permanent closure of the site is announced.

PS

VDare's main page now has a transcript up, and a long supplement by Lydia Brimelow:

_______________

PETER BRIMELOW: WHY WE'VE SUSENDED VDARE AND I'VE RESIGNED AFTER 25 YEARS

It may be worth copy-pasting some, if not all, of that transcript here, for whatever VDare obituaries there may be to come here at Peak Stupidity.

PS

From the post: "My recollection is that my Dad, who first clued me into this existential issue then...told me the best course would be to just talk about the numbers and the economics. ... The racial, ethnic, and cultural aspects of the invasion were something my Dad understood were important but figured might not be good to emphasize, just as a political strategy."

You are recalling these conversations from the early 2000s. This kind of attitude held throughout the 2000s; you had few or no mainstream voices willing to go beyond those genteel tactics or strategy.

What changed things? In my view, it was the election of the post-American, post-Western Barack Obama in 2008. That combined with the mid-2006 attempt to grant mass-amnesty to every illegal immigrant, which would also induce lots of new chain-migrants (LEE-guh-lee). The amnesty push of 2006 was resisted and blocked, but got very close. It was a shock to many; it seemed like a bright red flag that said: the Regime is against the people. The entire media-created and pushed candidacy of Barack Obama, beginning the next year (2007), left a similar taste in many mouths. Meanwhile you had a malaise in Middle America that was even then causing the Deaths of Despair phenomenon (it would get a lot worse in the 2010s).

The realignment didn't happen overnight. You had the Tea Party movement of circa 2010, which was something new on the scene but not quite "there" yet. A shift had happened, but in the early 2010s it was below the surface. By the late 2010s, it was often seen ABOVE the surface. The politics of the 2020s is more-direct on those "racial, ethnic, and cultural aspects" that ever in living memory, even if an actual effective, get-things-done force still seems to be lacking.

VDare certainly did not create Trump-MAGA in 2015-16, but they did presage some of the seriouser-end parts of the Trump program. Trump's talents are in identifying market-niches, using an entertainer or tough-guy persona (again the pro-wrestling analogy), and exploiting those parts of narcissistic personality disorder that can appeal to people he's playing to. (Charisma is not quite the same, but the two can be easily confused.)

What happened in the mid-2010s was a degree of social-scale "preference de-falsification" among Whites in the West. Western Europe's troubles are also the USA's and Canada's (Canada, possibly the worst-off of all). The 2015-16 Migrant Crisis was key. Before about 2016, White-Western people were generally engaged in "preference falsification." The positions or tactics you attribute to your father in the 1990s and/or the early 2000s are a good example. Then, after Trump, you had millions and millions of White people "defalsify" their preferences and come out FOR a White-Western traditional society. The other side recognized this, and an often-used slogan of 2016-18 or so was "Make Racists Afraid Again."

So what is VDare's role? They were an interesting voice specifically because they never much engaged in the "preference falsification" thing, which held for the general population for decades. By the time it broke locally or regionally, Whites were outnumbered and a one-party-state, ant-White system had snapped into place (see: California).

VDare, having been active throughout the entirety of the 2000s and 2010s, and now even for almost half of the 2020s, VDare "straddled" the eras I've sketched out there: the era of "preference falsification" and the "preference de-faslification" event of the mid-late 2010s, and then the new, more-open politics that we inherit today. A major talking-point in "campaign 2024" is how many 'migrants' will be deported. Even if it's not true, it's a big difference from the 2000s.

VDare seemed bold in the early 2000s; by the late 2010s it seemed comparatively tame. People have pointed this out many times. VDare had not stayed exactly static, but it did keep its tone and positioning. In the mid-late 2010s, "troll culture" and meme-culture emerged, and a lot of lower-brow agitators were out there, with bigger followings and influence than people of the 1980s or 1990s would have ever imagined possible (social media seems like a sci-fi fantasy of a dark vision of some unappealing parallel society).

VDare was kind of an independent opinion magazine that ran like a 20th-century paper magazine except for being online. It was a serious voice, for morally serious immigration-restrictionists. By some point (I'm not sure when), VDare also became more editorially "pro-White-Western racialist," mirroring the change I've already mentioned (but as usual with VDare, predating the general shift).

It's possible I am exaggerating some things about VDare to fit a narrative I've constructed in my own mind. For example, in the early 2000s they did publish the ethnonationalist Sam Francis (even after he was life-banned from every newspaper and fired from the Washington Times for racism). They of course published or republished Steve Sailer from the very start. And some others. The ethnonationaist James Kirkpatrick also got his start writing there.

One thing I became disappointed with, in VDare, was the degree to which they became Trump-cheerleaders, as so many of us did for shorter or longer periods. I felt VDare had the gravitas to critique Trump, to apply pressure from the Right which Trump and his inner-circle have evidently never really felt ("Where else are they gonna go?").

There are many other thoughts or viewpoints that could be added to this discussion, and the many more VDare-retrospectives to come, from lots of people, will do so. One thing's for sure: VDare does have a place in history. And no publication ever lasts forever. Celebrate it for what it was, its role in this first-quarter of the 21st century. The second-quarter, shortly to begin, will be a lot brighter in many ways, for VDare's kind of politics or policy-preferences, than things were in the pre-VDare 1990s or the early-VDare 2000s.

PS: Sorry for being slack about the image, too. I'd had it labelled wrongly on the server.

Alarmist, Peter Brimelow is someone who I doubt had a handle oo all the American issues outside the financial realm that we discuss here (and Mr. Sailer does) back in the early 1990s, till he wrote that book*. He has an excuse in that he wasn't here until whenever. Same with John Derbyshire, who I believe immigrated for good only in the mid or late 1990s.

In the early 1980s, besides in places like Miami or southern Cali, I'd say Americans may have only already been occasionally annoyed by a rare Spanish speaker or the phone systems (when the latter came on line) and "Press 1 for English". I have a recollection of these times. It definitely wasn't seen as a problem facing America as drugs, the USSR, inflation (early '80s still), unemployment, and not in that particular order.

That 1986 Amnesty Bill and subsequent signing by President Ronnie was definitely a news item. Signing it was a screw-up by the President, his having foolishly trusted the D's in the D-dominated Congress to come through with border security being his biggest regret later.

"... because this issue really didn’t register as an existential threat,..." Yes, I agree that's the case, even with your regular Americans. "... with most Cons/Cucks thinking “What’s another 11 million?” The LEGAL immigration was even less visible politically that is. OK, you've seen that there are 20 Chinese guys in your grad school now (in the early '90s, lets say) who, believe me, ARE here to stay with their families. Then, there are 2 new Indian restaurants, nice for the Foodies, but what the heck is that all about? Not seen as an existential threat yet though, not for another 2-3 decades... at something like 15-20% foreign-born in the country.


* He did obviously see the rot in the education system, as he wrote a book on that too, IIRC, "The Worm in the Apple". (The apple being what the suck-up or just nice students would give to a teacher. I'd maybe give a Granny Smith to a few... Actually, I had some good people, but this wasn't Government schooling.

PS: If by briefly, Mr. Blanc, you mean the Presidency of Donald Trump, I don't think he'll ever do much of this getting these people back. OTOH, that nasty Leticia James so happens to have gone after him personally along with VDare (and the NRA, as Mr. Brimelow noted in his short talk). I was hoping the fact that she was involved with Trump too would result in her being shut down somehow, helping VDare out only as a happy coincidence.

Anyway, Trump only really cares if it's personal, it seems to me. I doubt that he'll go after too many people that do deserve to have their heads on pikes.

It's a nice thought...

If we turn the tables, it has to be for good, like striking the King and all that.

PS

It was known by the early ‘80s that illegal immigration was a serious problem, but it was not taken seriously as a threat by any heavyweights on the right, which is why Ronaldus Maximus was suckered into a “compromise” that included mass amnesty.

Mr. Brimelowe could have banged pots and pans a decade earlier to some effect, but who knows what that would have led to. I mean, hey, Mr. Derbyshire was once tolerated on the respectful right too until reality started to bite, but also had no audience in the ‘80s be ause this issue really didn’t register as an existential threat, with most Cons/Cucks thinking “What’s another 11 million?” Well, here we are 60 million later.

We are doomed !

🕉

PS If we ever manage to turn the tables, if only briefly, there will be many heads on pikes, or a lot of folks taking long drops on short ropes.