Posted On: Wednesday - June 26th 2024 5:24PM MST
In Topics: Elections '16 - '24 Immigration Stupidity Lefty MegaStupidity Trump Pundits Media Stupidity The Future The Neocons Race/Genetics alt-right Guns
Notes: We've got a lot of Topic Keys attached, as I'm trying to remember all the topics within the conversation.
It wasn't really a conversation, actually. Steve Sailer did most of the talking, by far. This is similar with Tucker Carlson's interview of Vlad Putin, and so I'd guess most of them. That's a very professional way to do it.
Yes, readers. Commenter and blogger E.H. Hail called it. He has stated in numerous places including right here, that Tucker would interview Mr. Sailer this Spring. OK, Mr. Hail, you are off by 5 days (on the "Spring"), but then I was flat wrong thinking it wasn't Mr. Carlson's kind of thing. I look forward to a nice long review of this interview by Mr. Hail.
This is pretty exciting for me, though I'm not a commenter under iSteve any longer. I've been savoring his book Noticing, with a real review* coming here when I get one of those round tuits. Between the books, the book tours, interviews on the book, the videos of his talks at The Castle, and now this interview with the esteemed Tucker Carlson, Mr. Sailer has achieved the Big Time, at least the Biggest Time a Conservative can get in this current Cancellation Culture (more on the decline of that, or not...).
I watched the whole 1 hour 58 minutes (and change) interview nearly as soon as I learned about this. Instead of making this post 6 pages long, I'll present the video, with a basic timeline from the original youtube poster** today. I have at least 5 different subjects to comment on. I think these shorter posts will come quickly, as I don't want to forget my thoughts during viewing.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
3:53 What Was the Impact of Black Lives Matter on Black Lives?
7:56 Car Crashes
20:26 The Mexican Cartel Targeting the Appalachian Whites
31:06 Why Democrats Hide Crime Statistics
35:17 The Term “Karen” and the Increase in Anti-white Racism
43:05 Emmitt Till
49:11 Are Race Relations Getting Better?
1:01:20 Demographic Change
1:11:05 Will Donald Trump Win the Election?
1:39:58 Schools Getting Rid of the SAT Requirement
1:38:33 Is the Country Becoming More Open and Receptive?
Here are just a few more basic thoughts to start out: Firstly, if you are a steady Steve Sailer reader, that first 35 to 45 minutes or so may be kind of boring. I've seen the graphs. Yes, good stuff, but this exposure is important for the (right now nearly 1/4 million views) others, not us.
Next, I'd say that Mr. Sailer had his agenda to get his very good Social Science findings across. In doing that, he took forever to get around to answering Tucker's few (and, of course, far between) questions early on, say in this 1/3 duration section. True, the answers require background, so, again, this is great for new Sailer adherents.
Well, much more is to come here, in smaller dosages. I WILL harp on points I don't agree with. However, I hope the reader will realize that Peak Stupidity is thankful that Steve Sailer's 98% good points of truth*** are getting NOTICED.
PS: The title here: Mr. Sailer tries to be humble, but he'll toot his own horn sometimes. Still, the appellation he suggested (near the end of the interview) is pretty, errr, reasonable.
* We did post an Overview after perusing the book 2 1/2 months ago.
** This timeline is not exactly what I would have made. It's got smaller details in some areas yet misses some other subjects. It's hard to do better, I'm sure, and I don't think I'll watch the whole thing again just to make one.
*** That's not to say I believe Steve Sailer is lying about ANYTHING. I have points of opinion, most small, but one big one, that I don't agree with him on.
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[UPDATED ~ an hour later] Ahaaa, yes Immigration Stupidity WAS a subject, as opposed to what I'd initially remembered. As a matter of fact, Mr. Sailer brought up something that I'd thought he'd not noticed. He has. We'll get to that - one of our handful or so of posts to come.
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Comments:
E. H. Hail
Thursday - June 27th 2024 2:52PM MST
PS
Here is the Jared Taylor mention, adapted by me from a shoddy auto-transcript. The wider Jared Taylor section is about 2% of the entire interview length...
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(22:45)
SAILER: There are no organizations dedicated to the welfare of white working-class people. The news that they're dying in great numbers of novel causes, it relied on two academics and who said, "Wow, this is interesting." And one of them happened to win the Nobel Prize just before their paper came out. People paid attention to their paper because, "Oh, yeah, I heard about Angus Deaton and the Nobel Prize last month..."
TUCKER: If I can just ask you to pause. I think you're right. But it's sort of interesting, if you think about it. There ARE no organizations dedicated to the welfare of rural whites. But there ARE a lot of organizations dedicated to the welfare of a million other groups that are much smaller in number--
SAILER: Yeah.
TUCKER: --So why aren't there any organizations dedicated to that?
SAILER: A few people have tried to set up organizations that speak for white people the way that Al Sharpton speaks for black people, and countless other organizations speak for Jewish people, or Latinos, and so forth, and are highly respectable, and are constantly quoted in the newspaper.
A bright, very gentlemanly fellow named Jared Taylor tried to do this for the last thirty years. And he's still banned on Twitter, at this point! (Laughs).
America has a phobia about anybody speaking up for the emerging white minority. The conventional wisdom is that whites are rapidly being turned into a minority, and that's a GOOD thing. But we're not going to ever treat whites like the minority that they're becoming, in multiple states across the country. We're going to treat them as the all-powerful, omnipotent, "legacy majority" who can be blamed for everything from now on. (25:00)
Here is the Jared Taylor mention, adapted by me from a shoddy auto-transcript. The wider Jared Taylor section is about 2% of the entire interview length...
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(22:45)
SAILER: There are no organizations dedicated to the welfare of white working-class people. The news that they're dying in great numbers of novel causes, it relied on two academics and who said, "Wow, this is interesting." And one of them happened to win the Nobel Prize just before their paper came out. People paid attention to their paper because, "Oh, yeah, I heard about Angus Deaton and the Nobel Prize last month..."
TUCKER: If I can just ask you to pause. I think you're right. But it's sort of interesting, if you think about it. There ARE no organizations dedicated to the welfare of rural whites. But there ARE a lot of organizations dedicated to the welfare of a million other groups that are much smaller in number--
SAILER: Yeah.
TUCKER: --So why aren't there any organizations dedicated to that?
SAILER: A few people have tried to set up organizations that speak for white people the way that Al Sharpton speaks for black people, and countless other organizations speak for Jewish people, or Latinos, and so forth, and are highly respectable, and are constantly quoted in the newspaper.
A bright, very gentlemanly fellow named Jared Taylor tried to do this for the last thirty years. And he's still banned on Twitter, at this point! (Laughs).
America has a phobia about anybody speaking up for the emerging white minority. The conventional wisdom is that whites are rapidly being turned into a minority, and that's a GOOD thing. But we're not going to ever treat whites like the minority that they're becoming, in multiple states across the country. We're going to treat them as the all-powerful, omnipotent, "legacy majority" who can be blamed for everything from now on. (25:00)
E. H. Hail
Thursday - June 27th 2024 2:44PM MST
PS
Interesting Youtube comment
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Pinned by Tucker Carlson
@TCNetwork
2 days ago
Do you agree with Steve Sailer's argument that the BLM movement has done tremendous harm to the black community? What do you think this means for the upcoming election?
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This almost seems like it was written by one of the anti-Sailer Unz-commenter detractors. "The black community," wow. No mention of whites, much less the commons. Everything is framed in the wrong way, even by whoever runs the Tucker Carlson youtube channel.
Interesting Youtube comment
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Pinned by Tucker Carlson
@TCNetwork
2 days ago
Do you agree with Steve Sailer's argument that the BLM movement has done tremendous harm to the black community? What do you think this means for the upcoming election?
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This almost seems like it was written by one of the anti-Sailer Unz-commenter detractors. "The black community," wow. No mention of whites, much less the commons. Everything is framed in the wrong way, even by whoever runs the Tucker Carlson youtube channel.
E. H. Hail
Thursday - June 27th 2024 2:42PM MST
PS
I remember the Jared Taylor mention as being towards the end.
I remember the Jared Taylor mention as being towards the end.
Moderator
Thursday - June 27th 2024 2:09PM MST
PS: Mr. Hail, I'm trying to find the place when Sailer mentioned Jared Taylor and AmRen. I know he did, and it was when Tucker asked him a question (something about who's fighting all this anti-White stuff). If you have that time, I'll appreciate it.
Moderator
Thursday - June 27th 2024 2:07PM MST
PS: "The biggest thing to notice may be that Tucker absolutely avoided any reference to the Unz Review or Ron Unz, Sailer's main publisher for TEN YEARS, 2014 to 2024. Absolutely no mention of Unz, nor, I think, or TakiMag, either in written or spoken form. "
That is part of what I am going to write about in the 1st post on this interview, Mr. Hail. It's just to be about who got mentioned and who didn't.
I'm listening again now as I write you. I should be writing down timestamps, in fact.
That is part of what I am going to write about in the 1st post on this interview, Mr. Hail. It's just to be about who got mentioned and who didn't.
I'm listening again now as I write you. I should be writing down timestamps, in fact.
E. H. Hail
Thursday - June 27th 2024 1:31PM MST
PS
I listened to the Sailer--Tucker interview but but would like to listen again in full (or read a good transcript) before commenting any.
The biggest thing to notice may be that Tucker absolutely avoided any reference to the Unz Review or Ron Unz, Sailer's main publisher for TEN YEARS, 2014 to 2024. Absolutely no mention of Unz, nor, I think, or TakiMag, either in written or spoken form.
I think VDare was mentioned, but no great hay was made of it.
But Tucker promoted Sailer's "Substack," which is brand new. (I've been commenting a lot on it; the tenor of things in that comment-section is good.)
I listened to the Sailer--Tucker interview but but would like to listen again in full (or read a good transcript) before commenting any.
The biggest thing to notice may be that Tucker absolutely avoided any reference to the Unz Review or Ron Unz, Sailer's main publisher for TEN YEARS, 2014 to 2024. Absolutely no mention of Unz, nor, I think, or TakiMag, either in written or spoken form.
I think VDare was mentioned, but no great hay was made of it.
But Tucker promoted Sailer's "Substack," which is brand new. (I've been commenting a lot on it; the tenor of things in that comment-section is good.)
Moderator
Thursday - June 27th 2024 12:26PM MST
PS: Hey, that's not a bad price either, Adam. The low end is $38/ounce at today's British Pound*- $ spot price.
Not bad, but I just don't know when I'll get around to it. Heh.(?) I still have my FJB silver coin, but it's been getting some wear in my pocket...
* Funny, but the British pound used to mean a weight too. Can't get a pound for a pound anymore. Let's see: 60 pounds for 1/7 of a lb (talking Troy Ounces here), so yeah, only 420 x = 42,000% inflation - oops, not quite, 41,900% inflation, since the time of Charles Dickens and such....
Not bad, but I just don't know when I'll get around to it. Heh.(?) I still have my FJB silver coin, but it's been getting some wear in my pocket...
* Funny, but the British pound used to mean a weight too. Can't get a pound for a pound anymore. Let's see: 60 pounds for 1/7 of a lb (talking Troy Ounces here), so yeah, only 420 x = 42,000% inflation - oops, not quite, 41,900% inflation, since the time of Charles Dickens and such....
Adam Smith
Thursday - June 27th 2024 11:19AM MST
PS: Good afternoon,
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Moderator
Thursday - June 27th 2024 7:38AM MST
PS: Tucker would be a great American politician. I wish he'd consider that.
Moderator
Thursday - June 27th 2024 7:37AM MST
PS: That was a fantastic clip of Tucker giving what's due to that Aussie reporter, Alarmist!
Tucker Carlson can speak on his feet better than Trump and so much more intelligently.
I wish he'd brought up one thing that would have related to his last part about the old actual reporting of news (in his Dad's time) vs. modern "journalism". That'd be that the reason Putin said Tucker was weak on his questioning is probably because Tucker gave him some respect, and did not act like the modern journalists whose questions are actually statements of opinion. As I wrote at the top of this post, Tucker allows the interviewee a lot of time and a lot of leeway.
Were he antagonistic with iSteve (such as with the guys, as per Hail, that used to be on his network TV show a lot), I could see him having raised his voice as Steve went on about his graphs, "I! GET! THAT!, but why? Answer my question.".
This may be his different method vs. what the network wanted from him on TV. Mr. Hail would have a lot more to say about this.
Tucker Carlson can speak on his feet better than Trump and so much more intelligently.
I wish he'd brought up one thing that would have related to his last part about the old actual reporting of news (in his Dad's time) vs. modern "journalism". That'd be that the reason Putin said Tucker was weak on his questioning is probably because Tucker gave him some respect, and did not act like the modern journalists whose questions are actually statements of opinion. As I wrote at the top of this post, Tucker allows the interviewee a lot of time and a lot of leeway.
Were he antagonistic with iSteve (such as with the guys, as per Hail, that used to be on his network TV show a lot), I could see him having raised his voice as Steve went on about his graphs, "I! GET! THAT!, but why? Answer my question.".
This may be his different method vs. what the network wanted from him on TV. Mr. Hail would have a lot more to say about this.
The Alarmist
Thursday - June 27th 2024 5:10AM MST
PS
Tucker gone wild Downunder....
https://x.com/OvertonLive/status/1806056785469374481
Tucker gone wild Downunder....
https://x.com/OvertonLive/status/1806056785469374481
BTW, did you catch that quick Kung Flu discussion, right was I remembered it, just 15 sec or so before 01:19? Tucker sounded like me, didn't he. He didn't put it like this, but he was saying that he didn't know anyone who felt any differently from him, meaning anyone who KNEW ANYONE who'd died from it.
Steve probably should have bailed out. Of course, he didn't want to completely refute Tucker. This Tom Seaver thing, though (and he was one of a few Baseball players of whom I'd more than heard of - star pitcher for the NY Mets!), well, what was the point? There were co-morbidities indeed. I guess it was just a way to agree with Tucker and not go too far into his Excess Deaths numbers.
I'm guessing that Mr. Carlson knew pretty well Steve Sailer's positions on the Kung Flu and the jab. There's no use getting argumentative in this kind of setting.
BTW, I know now how I saw this coming about 2-3 seconds before. I'll explain that in the post that I've just gotten started on. First, who got mentioned here?