Corrections to rock, paper, scissors post


Posted On: Thursday - June 6th 2024 8:21AM MST
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Correction of this post.



(Meme, along with others elsewhere, courtesy of E.H. Hail, with help from Adam Smith.)


As I wrote in that last post, a different angle view can give a different story. The short, violent scene in Mannheim, Germany a few days back is something that Peak Stupidity, as others, should have waited to see more to comment on. However, most of what I wrote still applies. The theme of rock, paper, scissors does not apply to this small scale event for one reason, as can be seen. Thanks to the AS-420 network. (That's the Adam Smith channel), we have the video below:



Again, 1/4 speed makes things very clear. I've tried to keep in mind that the guys in the video didn't have the luxury of moving, and especially thinking, in a 1/4 speed reality. (The policewomen pretty much did.)

We can see that the (per Dieter Kief) expert fighter in the black jacket/white pants had been working to subdue the Moslem assassin. One of the Pax Europa protest guys in a blue windbreaker was beating on the wrong man, this guy in question. Now, the cops had come over to the scene, but they were still most assuredly NOT doing their job. They'd let the black jacketed fellow help, but only one of these cops, the bearded and ironically Moslem one, was attempting to get closely involved. (I know, the guy had a knife, but a couple of more big guys could have come in close to take care of the assassin then and there.)

I get that the police wanted to push away the fellow mistakenly beating up on the one guy taking care of business. However, as they pushed him away, with the unfortunately now deceased Rouven L. being the one to (accidentally, from my view) tackle him, they lost focus on the threat. The threat was Sulaiman still with a knife in hand. 3 seconds went by as 3 cops to the front of and in sight of the knife-wielding attacker kept back - I don't particular blame them - and one woman cop behind the guy did NOTHING. She could have tackled him from behind and out-of-sight, but you know, diversity and all makes us stronger, though sometimes more dead...

Again, it was all happening fast, but there is one big question in my mind here. I can see that the late Rouven L. saw Sulaiman getting up. Why then, did he get back down on top of the hapless protester? The latter was doing no harm at this point. Was Rouven really trying to protect the protestor? I find that hard to believe, as my reaction would be to face Sulaiman, even it it were just for a moment before quickly retreating. A hit to the man from below to knock him way off his feet (Judo, anyone?) would be an idea, but I surely wouldn't put my back to him. Did Rouven not see the knife at this point or think it wasn't so much of a threat?*

Anyway, analyzing video footage from a couple of angles in 1/4 time inside at my leisure is one thing. What happened in Mannheim was a bloody mess.

However, I think it's high time, as per their very small protestations so far, that these enforcers of the Establishment realize that who their enemy is enemies are. Besides the Establishment itself, these Moslem newcomers should be seen as the threats to even the cops' own well-beings, along with being threats to the German people. These cops must ignore the memos from HQ and see that they are on the same side as these peaceful ACTUAL-German White men. It's obvious that this small Pax Europa group were no threat**, but neither is "White Supremacy" and "White Nationalism". After all, do they want to keep a nation, and one comprised of White people? If not, just change the name of the place already.

Yes, it was ironic that the cop who was of the most help here was a Moslem guy. It was a good shooting too.***

Rock, paper, scissors still applies to the big picture. The Establishment paper that has wrapped itself around the White male bedrock of society doesn't understand that scissors still beat paper. We're hoping to change the rules so rock can bash them too.

Oh, and as another follow-up, per DPA(?), via yahoo news,,
The motive of the 25-year-old perpetrator, who was born in Afghanistan and was unknown to police, is still unclear. He underwent surgery after sustaining gunshot wounds during his capture, according to police.

The man, who lives in the western German state of Hesse and is married with two children, has been accused of attempted murder.
Unclear... as through a glass, darkly ...



* Before looking at this closely, I'd thought that Rouven L. may not have seen Sulaiman get back up, hence, he may have thought he'd control the one guy while his team took care of the real threat. However, he was looking right at the scene though.

** Yet, as with the case of Charlottesville, Virginia 7 years back, the LAW was there in the first place to keep an eye on these men, not to protect them.

*** It was about 2 seconds too late to protect his colleague, but he could have killed innocents otherwise.

Comments:
Moderator
Friday - June 7th 2024 12:28PM MST
PS: That'd be "...know nothing...", of course.
Moderator
Friday - June 7th 2024 12:27PM MST
PS: Hello, Dieter. I'll be the 1st, OK, not the 1st, but on Peak Stupidity, to admit that I also no nothing about Kafka other than the term Kafkaesque, the meaning of which I've only obtained from context. No, I'm not a literary dude, sorry to say.

The meaning to me is somewhat like "Kangaroo Court". I wish that I could say I came up with this, but when it comes to the Trump trials, the term Kangaroo Court is slanderous to Kangaroos!

Thanks for the interesting comments here.
Dieter Kief
Thursday - June 6th 2024 11:37PM MST
PS
Mod. - no press covering of the women axe story - - - as I wrote below: A woman I know quite well told me this story, and she knows because  she knows the axe women in person.

The thing that sees lots of right wing doomsayers a bit on the defensive side right now is that they wrote off the judicial system completely - but as it turns out, there is still a considerable amount of rationality in it - in this hindsight, the one German sociologist who will see more intenational reception in th future, is right one more time: Niklas Luhmann. - Im mentioned him occasionally in Unz-comments, but those writing back on him were not too patient (and most of the time - knew very little or close to nothing about him).



One of my a bit above average read twitter postings has this subject too in a way -

- I might as well put it in here too - for those who might want to look inot it - it is about the judicial system and two great novelists: Franz Kafka and - William Gaddis
Last week saw Kafka's 100 year remembereance of - - - the thin Prague man's untimely death - - -
 
Franz Kafka, the mainstream - and "The Trial" against Donald Trump

The writer and company-lawyer Franz Kafka, God rest his soul, died a hundred years ago. He lived in czech Prague and wrote in German.

Franz Kafka worked in the social bureaucracy as a judicial expert - but only part-heartedly. That actually says it all.

- He - - - knew the administered and legalized modern world from the inside and knew how many pitfalls there were in it.

The accused Donald Trump is sitting in one of them. The parallels are obvious: Kafka wrote in his novel The Trial:

"Someone must have slandered Josef K., because without him having done anything bad, he was arrested one morning."

The top US legal expert and lawyer Robert Barnes, like Kafka a very humorous, if perhaps a tiny bit over-smart man, if I may, said this about the New York Donald-Trump- "trial":

"The judge did not tell the jury what crime Trump had committed - and what he should be convicted of."

(I've linked Barnes 40 min. interview about this subject matter on my twitter thread - ca. one weak back - easy to be found, because it shows Barnes)


And Barnes shows that his thesis about the New York Trump-trial is true - by applying the standards of judicial expertise and the law.

So.

The legal thought structures have a lot of room for twilight, back stairs, traps, pitfalls, shacks in which reason can be brightly disguised in order to then act all the better as unreasonable. This is what is happening in Franz Kafka's The Trial and in the Trump-trial. - With the punch line that the process of redecorating public reason here, unlike in the Joseph K.'s case, has significant political consequences.

As I said, this is all completely out in the open - but is ignored by the mainstream - : - The interpretations of Kafka's works can also be completely off - just like the interpretations of the law!

- Isn't that ironic!?

And the misreading of Kafka in the light of the Trump-trial is most ferociously brought forward where the Prague Franzl Kafka's work is most loudly praised - i. e. In the Mainstream!

There is no alt-right Kafka-appreciation-society that I'd have heard of; which is super-trooperly ironic too, btw. . . .

- Kafka in the heavens might well laugh a good lot about all these confusions, conundrums and sense-hindrances. -

Just as he occasionally laughed a lot when reciting his own texts - losing lines even, because in the process, he watered his eyes, so hard he laughed at times while reading his texts to small audiences (oh how small were these audiences in Kafka's lifetime - - -they were: Intimately small -! - )...

-It is also very funny, not least of all, how capable we are of deceiving ourselves overall of Joseph K.

.PS

William Gaddi's novel - A Frolic of his Own - begins like this - it is - extremely Kafkaesque - a legal and insurance grotesque (remember: the lawyer Kafka worked for an insurance firm) in which all ideas about earthly justice are shattered by social reality:

Now, Gaddis' novel from 1994... begins with these two sentences:

"Justice? - You get justice in the next world, in this world you have the law."

A Frolic of His Own, - title in German from Rowohlt with a clearer, very good title, so to speak: The Last Instance - : - Transcendence and jurisprudence and: Futility! - - resonate here - - - explicitly like resonating Franz Kafka***'s realm too - - - -

including Gaddis' and Kafka's - - - transcendental! humor! - the world of literature is infinitely wide and at the same time: So small, that it fits into these little things called: Books.

***not to be forgotten: Franz Kafka said that he'd be a religious person indeed.
Moderator
Thursday - June 6th 2024 9:25PM MST
PS: Yeah, that's one more mistake I made from reading your comments yesterday, Dieter. I'd thought you meant the the black-jacketed individual who had been taking care of things nicely was the martial arts expert. I can fix that up after I write a post that deserves writing tonight.

That was a great description of the women element of the police force and general society, Dieter.

Your story of the southern German axe-woman and her no-nonsense dealings with the German Police Union deserves a post here - maybe you've got a link, but I'll look it up too. Now that's admirable! Freiburg lived up to its name, then.
Moderator
Thursday - June 6th 2024 9:18PM MST
PS: “There should only be exceptions for those who have just bought a knife in a shop and then have a corresponding receipt for it. But otherwise there can hardly be any exceptions.”

Man, if only Mr. Sulaiman had had his receipt "on his person" then it all would have been on the up and up. Thanks for the laughs, Mr. Smith. I am familiar with the British program, as I remember when they implemented the more hard-core guy control and Americans made fun "well, next you'll need knife control" Hey, we were kidding, people!

I'll check out your links in the manana...

PS: So, if inside is OK, one wonders if guys like this might still be able to kill White Germans in restaurants, let's say Moslem restaurants with the meat on a stick, with Moslem chef who need big knives to chop up the food... These proposed bills need a little more thought ...
Dieter Kief
Thursday - June 6th 2024 1:03PM MST
PS
Well Mod. I agree - almost completely.
- The cop might have thought that he had to immobilise Stürzenberger's unlucky supporter - to make sure that the super-trained muscle-man could keep the attacker further down - what he had done before already - and single handedly!! - He might not have realised just how huge this accomplishment was, because - as we know now - the attacker was a well-trained Teak-Won-do Fighter - The - most liekly:secret-Service msucle-man really did an amazing job - until the amateur muscle-man from team Stürzenberger started to get into the scene - - -
Btw.: My hypothesis, that the muscle man fighter who initially wrestled the knife man down was indeed a secret service man has that going for it: Nobody talks about him any more. - He has vansihed from the public eye, even though he could have been the potential savior of almost everybody Mannheim. - Even the right-wing publications have gone silent about him - - - so that I seem to be the only one left spilling the beans - - -thank god in publications, that no one really knows that would cause headaches to the German authorities. I thank God for that too, btw. - - -


I guess the lady-police just did what they do best: Admire strong men! - Gaze at them in awe, not missing any detail to be able to fill the long hours in the long-house afterwards with splendid talk - - -I mean: That's what women do best - and love the most - - - - - by far - - - - : Admire strong and successful men! - And they did not want to miss out on their core competences****. All clear my dear // so far.
  
And maybe the cop also tried to .p.r.o.t.e..c.t. Stürzenberger's wrong-headed helping hand: I mean: It was a dangerous situation...after all - as you said: This all went by quite fast - - - 

Yeah Adam, start eliminating knife-crimes and move on from this base then.

It is all a bit drunk and dumb this dance around the red hot center of all problems.


Btw. - - some tough women (mountain climber, artist, designer) told me a story of a tough women-friend of hers in southern Germany that got confiscated all her 50! (sharp! -she told me!) axes by the local authorities. - For safety reasons! - She seems to be a bit on the rebel-side politically too - and they know that... A judge in super-lefty super-liberal super-beautiful Freiburg told them then they 'd have to give 'em back to her; all fifty of them! -

When the police brought them back - in five boxes, ten axes each, she had no time to count them all and made the police sign a paper that the five boxes is all she can see and that her final counting of the axes would be the definitive statement - but not now... - - - they signed that paper!

What happened was: In the boxes were four axes missing! - She wrote a complaint and is awaiting a compensation payment now. - Her firend says that they will regret their mistake - not least because she handed this whole axes-business over to her lawyer, who had to promise her that his bill will be - - - of no bad parents, as we say here . . .

****Jordan B. Peterson - Why Young Women are more Woke! - - -  Five!! T.O.P.!! minutes from minute 3 to minute  8 in the vid - this is one for the ages**

hw_dungeonyard1s_h_en_110 (youtube.com)

**I'll add that to my Instruction Manual for the 21st Peak-Stupidity-Century - I ought to pin this down in the near future - If God Willst - - -  
Adam Smith
Thursday - June 6th 2024 11:01AM MST
PS: Good afternoon, Achmed & Friends!

But, but...

This is a knife free zone.
How could this even happen?

https://i.ibb.co/0C8YC6X/Waffenverbotszone.jpg
https://www.mannheim.de/sites/default/files/2023-11/Flyer%20WVZ_final_engl.pdf

Thanks in part to Rouven L.'s tragic demise, the Germans are finally ready to tackle the root cause of this problem...

https://tinyurl.com/bdcmneh9

North Rhine-Westphalia's Interior Minister Herbert Reul (CDU) said: “The pictures from Mannheim are shocking. By now, at the latest, everyone must understand that we have to take knife crime seriously.” What is now needed is “increased measures to control the possession and carrying of knives, stricter penalties for their misuse and intensive awareness campaigns about the dangers. Something like what happened in Mannheim must not happen again,” emphasized the minister.

The German Police Union in North Rhine-Westphalia agreed with Reul. “There is no sensible reason for a private citizen to carry a knife with them when they go out on the street. This must be prevented by law,” demanded state chairman Erich Rettinghaus in an interview with the Rheinische Post. “There should only be exceptions for those who have just bought a knife in a shop and then have a corresponding receipt for it. But otherwise there can hardly be any exceptions.”

Gun and knife ban zones are a way to send a clear message against violence and increase the feeling of security in the city.

Perhaps the good people of Germany can learn a trick or two from England...

https://i.ibb.co/tMrKNtR/Knife-Crime.jpg

While a knife registration program and a database of all registered knife owners on the continent is a good start, it is not nearly enough. Every sharp pointy object sold in Europe should have a GPS tracking chip in the handle.

This is a flawless plan that will eliminate all knife crime.

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