Ben & Jerry v Breyers & Chief Stevens

Posted On: Monday - July 10th 2023 6:22AM MST
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Sounds like a case for the SCROTUS. In fact one party sounds like they ARE the SCROTUS. The other party, Ben & Jerry, are the 2 hippie-dippie founder/owners of Vermont-based gourmet ice cream manufacturer that is owned by $130 Billion (down a couple of Billion over the last 2 days) market-cap conglomerate Unilever.

The ctrl-left just has to make everything political - even the 247th Independence Day holiday of their own country.* Their tweet on the 4th was hard-core anti-White and anti-American:

(There were more words under the tweet, but you can get the gist of it.)

This newest Woke trend of apologizing for the settling of an entire continent is something I've noted at the beginning of Wikipedia pages on places. (I thought for sure I'd posted on this, but no can find...) Lately, this stupidity has become more than just another PC annoyance, as the giving back, in various forms, of Indian land is getting real - see the case of eastern Oklahoma. (That's a VDare article by Washington Watcher II, but their writer Allan Wall has written much more about it - see here, here, here, and here for starters. He lives there.)

Who exactly is indigenous to this land American live on is a question Peak Stupidity has already asked, back on our '21 road trip, which included The Four Corners - Utah. Even if we could pin down this indigenousness to someone besides Adam & Eve or The Chosen People, how's that give anyone property rights. I'd want to see deeds and titles.

So, even as they run a Capitalist operation, protected by property rights and rule-of-law, that sells over-priced ice cream all over the world, Ben and Jerry deign to tell Americans they stole all their property. I pondered a few minutes after I saw this tweet whether there might just be a sacred Indian burial ground somewhere on B&J company property there in Vermont. This prospect very much worth checking out, I figured.

Well, I didn't have to wait but a day to see Ben & Jerry get hoisted. Per The Publica, Nulhegan Chief Tells Ben and Jerry’s Their HQ is On Stolen Land After Ice Cream Giant Announces Support for Land-Back Movement. Don't feel bad if you've never heard of the Nulhegan tribe. I don't know if anyone else had either, other than a man whose name sure doesn't sound Indian, one Don Stevens.

Chief Stevens doesn't look like no Indian [/Silvio**] other than by the Indian get-up he's got on. He does look like a guy who's had his share of Ben & Jerry's. Now, he wants his share of Ben & Jerry's.
Don Stevens, who is the chief of the Nulhegan Band of The Coosuk Abenaki Nation, a confederacy of Algonquian tribes that formed in and around Vermont in the 1600s, spoke to the New York Post yesterday and expressed an interest in opening dialogue with the company regarding returning the land.

Stevens argued that if Ben and Jerry’s was “sincere” in their support for returning land to Native Americans, then they should reach out to him to see how they can better benefit Indigenous people.
Yes, a dialogue... something along the lines of "Show me the money." This guy's an Indian sub-sub-sub-contractor, Assistant to the Regional Chief of the Nulhegan Band of the Coosuk-style Abenaki Nation's people, who are a sub-tribe of the Algonquian Tribe - now I've heard of the Algonquians!

Back in the day, the various indigenous people's fought each other and stole each other's indigenous land, as the American settlers conquered the whole shebang. Unity helped. We current Americans can enjoy these political battles between the Woke ctrl-left band and these Indian claimants who want their property back - "Wait, what are you, a bunch of Indian givers?" - Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield - as we enjoy our own indigenous American ice cream.

I know, I know, saturated fat out the yin-yang, ingredients the names of which would topple a spelling bee champion, etc. The Coffee flavor is my favorite. Runners-up would be Chocolate Chip Mint, French Vanilla, and Strawberry.

PS: I don't advertise Breyer's ice cream here to support the grassroots Bud-Lite-style boycott against B&J's that seems to be starting up. (I still have a post on that coming.) No, I really like Breyer's more than the fancy stuff, and indeed, from what I just looked up, Ben & Jerry's is 3 times the price of Breyers. That's even after the Inflation by Deflation that's brought a half-gallon down to 3 1/2 pints, and down to 3 pints at present.

* Peak Stupidity got political too, but a) we are a political blog, b) our post was in support of the Founders of this country, using the revolution as an example, and c) we support the progeny of the Founders, unlike Ben & Jerry.

** I can't find the "He don't look like no Indian" scene from The Sopranos for the life of me.

Wednesday - July 12th 2023 2:24PM MST
PS The Semiholes tribe is an old joke of mine--been using it for years--whenever some half assed Indian jumps out of the woodpile -so to speak. Forgot to add my name to the original post.
Adam Smith
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 7:44PM MST
PS: Greetings, Mr. Hail,

A little more info about Kristina Ann Ballard...
It seems she has already been sentenced(?)...

“Kristina Ann Ballard, 53, of Largo, Florida, was sentenced today to three years in prison for embezzling more than $270,000 from her former employer, a nonprofit organization in Washington, D.C.”

“Ballard started embezzling from the D.C. non-profit 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐟𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐝𝐚𝐲𝐬 after she was indicted in Arlington County, Virginia, for embezzling from a previous employer. In July 2015, a Virginia court sentenced her to four years of probation. In conjunction with her sentencing in that case, 𝐁𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐫𝐝 𝐬𝐚𝐢𝐝 𝐬𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐝 𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐰𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 ❞𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐥𝐞𝐭 [𝐬𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐥𝐢𝐤𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬] 𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐞𝐧 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧.❞ 𝐈𝐧 𝐟𝐚𝐜𝐭, 𝐛𝐞𝐭𝐰𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞 𝐬𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐢𝐧 𝐕𝐢𝐫𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐚 𝐢𝐧 𝐉𝐚𝐧𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝟐𝟎𝟏𝟓 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐬𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐝 𝐢𝐧 𝐉𝐮𝐥𝐲 𝟐𝟎𝟏𝟓, 𝐬𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐝 𝐞𝐦𝐛𝐞𝐳𝐳𝐥𝐞𝐝 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 $𝟑𝟎,𝟎𝟎𝟎 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐃.𝐂. 𝐞𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐨𝐲𝐞𝐫. Following the imposition of the probationary sentence, Ballard went on to steal approximately $240,000 more from the D.C. non-profit.”

“On Nov. 5, 2020, 𝐬𝐡𝐞 𝐮𝐬𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐳𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧’𝐬 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐭 𝐜𝐚𝐫𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐩𝐚𝐲 $𝟐𝟒,𝟔𝟗𝟒 𝐢𝐧 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐭𝐮𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐕𝐢𝐫𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐚 𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐭 for her prior embezzlement scheme.”

Who owns Unilever❓

The company is a joint venture of Unilever NV (The Netherlands) and Unilever PLC (UK), the parent companies. Since 1930, the two companies have operated as one, linked by a series of agreements. They trade separately but have one board of directors. Unilever’s corporate centres are London and Rotterdam.

Who are the largest shareholders of Unilever❓

The Vanguard Group, Inc. 87,362,840 (3.472%)
Norges Bank Investment Management 60,380,301 (2.399%)
BlackRock Investment Management (UK) Ltd. 52,296,167 (2.078%)
The Leverhulme Trust 46,931,182 (1.865%)
Wellington Management Co. LLP 37,492,181 (1.490%)
Clearstream Banking SA 26,151,000 (1.039%)
FIL Investment Advisors (UK) Ltd. 25,843,026 (1.027%)
Vanguard Global Advisers LLC 24,237,820 (0.9631%)
First Eagle Investment Management LLC 22,311,175 (0.8866%)
Lindsell Train Ltd. 20,839,163 (0.8281%)

Not sure if that's what you're asking?

Tuesday - July 11th 2023 6:50PM MST

"Fun Fact! Unilever owns both Breyers and Ben & Jerry's."
-- Adam Smith

And who owns "Unilever"? --- QUIS CUSTODIET, IPSOS CUSTODES?
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 6:48PM MST

Thank you, Mr. Moderator; and allow to point out that the story continued for a few hundred more words:

from Muggles:

From me:

Muggles again:

And, finally, my last on the subject (including a handy table I produced showing rates of fraud, embezzlement, and related crimes by race in 2019):

The story as we told it is about 3500 words in all; with some thought and light editing and adaptation, it could be a useful essay that stands alone on its own merits. I have usually thought of that kind of commenting as something between "notes" and "first drafts" of later material, most of it never to be...

Quite a lot of commenters over there are out for their own entertainment and nothing else, which I "get" but seems less useful to the universe and less worth the time, but it becomes a hobby for many. As for Corvinus, I really don't get him -- does he get enjoyment out of what he does? As for Buzz Mohawk, who claims to post while drinking such quantity of alcohol that he doesn't remember the various anti-Sailer insults he posts before passing out for the night, that's entertaining, I suppose. The usual problems are the trolls, who give a mildly unpleasant feeling when reading. Has Buzz Mohawk ever wandered into Peak Stupidity's pastures?
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 5:48PM MST
PS: "I wrote a large quantity of words on this lately. It's an interesting story, to me; maybe not many more care that much. At some point I'll have to put it on" Yes, indeed you should.

I'm glad to see you back commenting on The Unz Review, Mr. Hail. You can see how it can be pretty addictive. From that time you spend, such as writing this:


... just as one recent example, you could move around a few things here and there and make a very interesting off-the-beaten-path blog post. I wouldn't worry about cough, Mr. Unz's, cough, cough, disclaimer too much... (What if you published on your site first - but that's not the way it usually works, I guess.)

I have gotten post ideas from what I've written or what others have written. Along with wanting to respond with • Thanks, I do that also, occasionally, to mark comment by others on O/T stories I want to write about.
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 3:34PM MST

- Ben & Jerry's as power-barons in Wokeness -

A few months ago, I did a little investigation into a case of of embezzlement involving a relatively high-prestige non-profit, Fairtrade America.

I ended up learning a lot about the group -- including how there is a rival called Fair Trade USA as a result of an international-schism in fair-trade-movement people.

It turns out Ben & Jerry's was itself something of a power-baron in this Fairtrade-movement internal rivalry, as Ben & Jerry's put its weight behind Fairtrade America when it launched in 2013. They still maintain the ties today. I wrote a large quantity of words on this lately. It's an interesting story, to me; maybe not many more care that much. At some point I'll have to put it on
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 12:30PM MST
PS: " The Semiholes" You should take credit. Write back with the left-out handle, and I'll insert it.

Don't want to get that pinky finger dirty, Anti-Gnositc.
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 11:59AM MST

Fake Indians, MegaBiz and Jews all chasing each others' tails!

Personally, I only dessert on Talenti Sea Salt Caramel Gelato, with my pinky finger extended straight out from the handle of my "AG" embossed, sterling silver gelato spoon.
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 11:08AM MST
PS. Looks like on of them half-assed Indians. The Semiholes !
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 9:17AM MST
Breyer's used to be great, back when it was made with milk, sugar and chocolate / vanilla / etc. But somewhere along the line, it turned into just another crap ice cream full of gums and fillers and junk. And it's also owned by Unilever. They bought it from Kraft, and in typical MegoGloboCorp fashion, turned it to crap.

Here's a fun fact! "One result of these cost-cutting practices has been that many (but not all) of Breyers' products no longer contain enough milk and cream to meet labeling requirements for ice cream, and are now labeled "Frozen Dairy Dessert" in the United States."

Ain't that grand?
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 6:43AM MST
PS: For us, Mr. Anon, it's maybe 2 containers every half a year or so, as a treat, and yes, when it's Buy One, Get One, as Alarmist noted.

Good on you for staying off the unhealthful food. I try!
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 6:42AM MST
PS: Mr. Smith, that's perfect! It goes along with a post about the usefulness of boycotts or lack thereof. Who else do most people buy their ice cream from? Who else do people buy their cheap swill beer from? You can boycott a lot of the Big Biz world, but it takes more effort than most people are up for. They barely come out to vote.
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 5:48AM MST
PS: Gelato- gotta try some of that, Al - less saturated fat, I assume?

SafeNow, I am familiar with that incident by Donald Trump, and I see why he could be confused with one of the Eyetalians on "The Sopranos". No, there was a scene in which Tony and his close underlings were making some deal - perhaps threatening too - some guy who ran Indian casinos or something ... it was in a restaurant or bar.

I don't think that is from same episode as the one about Columbus Day and the clashes between the Sopranos gang and the woke people of the early/mid-00s. Yes, of course it makes one (at least me!) root for the mob. Shame it's gotta be that way. It was that episode that YT did have some videos on. Who knows which scenes there one can't find due to censorship? Great show, IMO.
Mr. Anon
Tuesday - July 11th 2023 12:08AM MST

I have to say, I don't like Breyers ice cream. The few times I've had it, it just tastes sweet, with no real flavor.

However Ben & Jerry's ice cream is crap. It's also overly sweet and cloying and loaded with even more sweets. Then packaged with a cutesy name and sold with a dollop of liberal pretension. It's ice-cream as a lifestyle statement.

The best ice-cream is usually from small local creameries. The best mass-market ice-cream is, in my opinion, Baskin & Robbins.

Anyway, I gave it up to lose weight. I have it maybe once a year.
Adam Smith
Monday - July 10th 2023 11:34PM MST
PS: Fun Fact!

Unilever owns both Breyers and Ben & Jerry's.

Monday - July 10th 2023 11:08PM MST
Trump said “They don’t look like Indians to me.”: Back in 1993 I think it was.
His Atlantic City casino was facing unfair competition from the Indian casino because the Indians did not have to pay taxes. Could you be mixing-up Trump with the Sopranos?

Al Corrupt
Monday - July 10th 2023 4:21PM MST

All I can say is “gelato”
Adam Smith
Monday - July 10th 2023 4:12PM MST
PS: Good evening, Mr. Alarmist,

I've never been to a Kilwins before. (Never really heard of it.) However, a couple months back Mrs. Smith and I were walking around the square in Dahlonega with some family that came into town to visit when we noticed a new chocolate shop. Didn't think much of it at the time, and as we had already visited the fudge shop we passed it by.

Turns out it's a Kilwins franchise...

Perhaps it's worth a visit some time?

The Alarmist
Monday - July 10th 2023 2:36PM MST

Oddly enough, my European wife prefers Breyer’s chocolate ice cream to the “premium” ice creams in the US. I like it too, and you often get it at Publix as a BOGO, so even better.

Have you been to a Kilwin’s? They’re a chain of franchise shops scattered around the Eastern US from Michigan to Florida.
Monday - July 10th 2023 2:05PM MST
PS: Yeah, I know what's not good for me, Adam, but I do get a hankering occasionally. My palate doesn't notice the nasty stuff that may be in the stuff one gets from Big Ice Cream. If I didn't know it would do any harm, I'm pretty sure I could eat a pint of Breyer's daily for life. (It wouldn't be that long though, haha.)

Picked up some wooden ice cream stirrer one time - still got it, but never got to using it.

Have a good evening, Adam!
Adam Smith
Monday - July 10th 2023 12:38PM MST
PS: Greetings, Mr. Moderator & Friends,

Mrs. Smith and I do not eat much ice cream. We used to eat more, but it seems the quality has gone down hill in recent years.

Sometimes Kroger will give us a coupon for a free pint of Ben & Jerry's, so we will usually pick one up if they have a decent flavor. I like Cherry Garcia best, but even that one is not as good as it used to be before the Unilever takeover. We usually put about half (or more) down the drain to feed the microbes in the septic tank. (Well, actually I just don't want the bear to get in the trash. He makes a mess!)

We'll occasionally buy a Blue Bell Homemade Vanilla, but it too is not as good as it used to be. I think they might be putting more corn syrup in it or something. Just doesn't taste right anymore. Too sweet. (Most of it goes down the drain too.)

I really liked the plain organic vanilla ice cream from Humboldt Creamery the one time I tried it, but alas, I cannot find it anywhere. (They used to sell it at Dahlonega WalMart.) Just as well, I really don't need to eat such junk food, and Mrs. Smith didn't really care for it as she thought it was a bit too plain. (I really liked it because it was very creamy and natural tasting.) I hear that Humboldt Creamery makes the Kirkland Vanilla for Costco, so maybe I'll try that someday.(?)

Some of the Breyer's flavors seem a little "gritty" to me.

I've pretty much given up on fast food type ice cream like Dairy Queen and what not. It's all horrible junk to my palate. I did however split a vanilla frosty from Wendy's with the lovely 🥰 Mrs. Smith not too long ago as she had a hankering for one on a hot day.

There is a Mexican Ice Cream shop in Gainesville near Atlanta Highway Seafood that has good homemade ice cream. (Or at least used to. I haven't been there in a few years. Hell, probably like five.) I really like their milk based coconut ice cream...

So, yeah. That's about all I have to say about ice cream.

Hope you all have a great day!

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