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Mod. - I - - have not. I know some of the philosophical books/ideas of Peter Bieri, who wrote the novel the book Nighttrain to Lissabon is based on. But I have not read this novel either, which he published under the alias Pascal Mercier = the Grateful* Pascal - Pascal being one of the towering figures of mathematics, logic, philosophy, theology etc. - in France, and in Europe  and  - - -he made it into Charles Murray's Human Accomplishment - - -high up there*****. A top accomplisher even from the global perspective. Thankful Pascal - because - - dealing with the more or less godless modern world, you can be hard hit to find an address for your gratefulness. - A feeling which might be very strong. It was easy to deal with this feeling for a religious person - - - but for the agnostic, the atheist the metaphysically ignorant - - -
To make this super-short: I tend to hold that the profoundly grateful and - a Christian or a Buddhist let's say, share more than what divides them. The profoundly grateful is a NINO - - - a non-theist in name only, hehe.

*****Murray on p. 233: "The credit of inventing probability theory (=to in fact .q.u.a.n.t.i.f.y. it, DK), goes to Pascal and Fermat." - - -Let that sink in - - -
btw. - Murray writes, that, as so often, the Chinese had done that before, but - as so often, "did not follow up" on their insights (Mr. Hail, this one is a reference to German national economics too).
Ok - short morning this morning: This here is Joseph Henrich** territory: Why on earth did the Europeans follow-up on so many insights that were about to lay the foundations of progress? - Btw. - - - Murray too thinks that he can bypass Arno Borsts Computus book (and Arno Borst, of course) by claiming that the dark ages, Mod. - were scientifically irrelevant - which the PS book-clubbers know that: No. Untrue. Iow: Untrue that christian medieval times were  - - - dark.
A last shortcut: But writing as he did, Murray followed an ages old - presumably archaic rhetorical imperative, and that is that of contrasting your basic tale - of whatever. We love it, when tales are dark and bright, black and white, high and low, inside and out  etc. pp.
Very short last thought of my meta-theory (this is the meta-theoretical morning, heheh) - this structure has cognitive reasons and the cognitive reasons have to do with what you wrote mod. in your question above: That lots of tale swere (and are still) told in the dark - - - see: It is true: I am super short here, heheh..

**The WEIRDEST People in the World - How the west became rich and - - - -well: Weird & W.E.I.R.D.- - -

*the Grateful Dead sail these waters too, of course. 

PS: Dieter, you probably have gone to sleep by now, but for tomorrow, I wanted to ask you if you've ever seen the movie "Night Train to Lisbon" - produced in Germany.

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William Shakespeare (or Friedrich von Schiller - - - Wordswoth about Daffodils or - - J. A. Baker about- - - The Peregrine) - - - are important in that they allow members of th English or German speaking world, to come to grips - - or to reflect abouth things, that they would not have thought about his distinctly and differentiated without the Bard and his companions.
What is a bit of a myth to me is, that the tradition is given away so unreflectedly - - - but also, that it does not matter much, because not much use is made of these traditions anyway. culture does survive in its institutions, but - it has to be made use of to be able to make sense.
No use is the same than a crooked (woke) use.

Thes are just a few fragments.

PS: Adam, even the link itself was not safe for work! Haha, glad I'm not in a cube. But, that was history - I'm glad someone is keeping it alive - the actual opinion of someone at the time, unblemished by a century and 6 decades of revisionism. Thanks.

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I see you've already seen it and added a line or two on it. Thanks!--to you an Wilkey.

https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2023/05/03/on-the-oregon-shakespeare-festival-osf-board-and-the-role-of-asians-in-the-usa/

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I posted an expanded version of the comment about the OSF board to HailToYou.wordpress.com

PS: Good afternoon, everyone

I do suppose After Hours is a little less unrelated than I realized. Thanks, Dieter!

Here's an interesting link that's also kinda off topic...

https://www.historians.org/teaching-and-learning/teaching-resources-for-historians/sixteen-months-to-sumter/newspaper-index/new-york-herald/nigger-worship-and-its-consequences

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PS The Negroes and other non-whites are the sharp end of the spear, but it’s whites who are the shaft. Western civilization is dying because many whites no longer care about it, and more are actively trying to destroy it.

PS: We'll be back to check, Mr. Hail.

PS: Regarding the Chinese lady board member, with extrapolation, of course, I think all women like to have that status of being a big shot in the "arts community" - there's some power there too. However, your average White lady may care a whole lot more about the culture that's supposed to being promoted/preserved here. The Chinese lady likely couldn't care less, but who knows, a lot of the Oriental people play Classical music.

Is it that they appreciate that music as much as Europeans (some of them)? I don't know - it's also a step up and status thing, having their children playing in the school orchestra. Keeping up with the Joneses, errr, Wangs, is part of it too.

Keep in mind that Wilkey says plenty of the (almost) 50% White people on the board are Woke too. That's somewhat of a different mentality. They may appreciate Euro. culture, and probably don't REALLY care for any of the blackety-black crap they are pushing., However, they strongly want to fit in. Fitting in now means going along with this shit and even pushing it, so there's no chance anyone will bully you, errr, call you names.

PS: Never heard that Velvet Underground song before - pretty catchy and very simple.

For most of the Arts, Dieter, Conservatives don't seem to be involved or interested so much - not enough time on their hands and maybe a different personality perhaps. I've never had very much interest, music being the exception. However, I see more in the value of art than I used to.

Politically, when it comes to this destruction of the culture - I would write "replacement", but is that really culture at all that they're replacing Shakespeare with?

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Dieter Kief says the Chinese woman who is "chairman" of the Oregon Theater Co. "is clearly is not in this stuff for the arts, but for status."

This explains a lot of what East Asians "do" in the USA, and more-so Canada. And South Asians in a different way.

(Some of the Sailer-commenters seem to hate South Asians, but miss the nuance that what they hate are specific aggressive diasporic subgroups of them. With East Asians, the phenomenon tends to be broader.)

Since East Asians usually have a completely different approach to life to us, adding them into a White-Western society will end up with results like this, visible in a thousand little ways --- to the detriment of the whole in a thousand small ways. Such ambition, unethical behavior, runaway status-seeking, and the other things that come with East Asian presence, they get balanced-out in their own societies. There is much less effective mechanism for it in a Western society to begin with, and under Wokeness the gate is wide open.

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The Chinese women is - as so often, the cherry on the mudcake - - - She clearly is not in this stuff for the arts, but for status. And if hiring incompetent ideaologues brings more stautus - - its a no brainer for her.
If all goes down, she'll change horses and go for other status-opportunities. No problem for her either, since she's only in it for the social gains.

And something else: Conservatives do not engage in this kind of thing. I dunno, but that seems to be a bit of a mistake.
This fits Adams Close the Door Maureen-Tucker-metaphor of the Velet Underground - - - which makes these things an even more mixed bag - - - and less unrelated than you suggested, Adam. It is a nice & tender song, thx. for posting it!

PS: Completely & totally off topic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B7rim_MObk

If you close the door, the night could last forever,
Leave the sunshine out and say hello to never...

All the people are dancing, and they're having such fun
I wish it could happen to me...
But if you close the door,
I'd never have to see the day again!

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