Posted On: Wednesday - April 5th 2023 7:31PM MST
In Topics: Global Climate Stupidity Globalists Environmental Stupidity Science
It'll take me a while to get sick of this one:
Let's take it from (near) the top:
The accumulated amount is now trapping as much extra heat as would be released by six hundred thousand Hiroshima class atomic bombs exploding every single day on the Earth! That's what's boiling the oceans, creating these atmospheric rivers [great for innnertubing! .. in a lawnchair, BTW], and creating these rain bombs!No, that's not rain, that's spittle.
The exploding of 600,000 atomic bombs a day sounds like a lot of energy released. As Peak Stupidity has noted along with commenter M (under the previous post) and others, the solution to pollution is dilution. Well, energy is not pollution, but the idea is still that the Earth is BIG, and we are small, even with our atomic bombs.
Let's do the math. The internet says that the world's oceans take up 325 million cubic miles.* That times 5,280 ft/mile cubed gives us 4.78 x 1019 ft3 of water. At 64 lb/ft3 for seawater, we get 3.06 x 1021 lb. I want to go SI now, so that's about 1.4 x 1021 kg of seawater.
Let me take that number from yesterday of the energy released from 600 thousand of those measly old 15 kTon A-bombs. It's 3.8 x 1016 kJ. The assumption here, to be give all credit we possibly can to Mr. Gore, that ALL the energy from these bombs is transferred to, and stays in, the oceans. It'd be better if we detonated those 600,000 A-bombs underwater come to think of it, as in some of that old Cold War era testing. Al Gore would probably want it this way.
The specific heat of water is 4.2 kJ/kg-K ( It varies a tad with chemistry, P, and T, but I'd be happy with just one significant digit for this sort of thing.) ΔT = E/mc gives us a temperature change of 0.0000056 C or 6 1/2 millionths of a degree C daily.
I don't know the average temperature of the oceans, but in Al Gore's favor again, we'll use value on the high side, say 25 C. It's a 75 C rise to get to 100C. That'd take, let's see now ... hmmmm... oh, about 32 thousand years, but remember, that's assuming NO heat transfer to the atmosphere is occurring, an utter impossibility. Wait, but even that wouldn't get the ocean boiling. The energy during all those 32 thousand years of exploding 600,000 A-bombs daily being transferred to the seawater is what's called "sensible heat". That's energy input to raise the temperature of a substance, not to change its phase. The "latent heat" is the latter. For water, this latent heat of vaporization (liquid to gas) is 2,200 kJ/kg. To take the oceans from 100C liquid to 100C vapor (at atm. pressure) would take another 3.1 x 1024 kJ. 1.2 x 10-8 of the ocean would be boiled daily, so there's another 222 thousand years we've got, or about 1/4 million years in all, before the oceans boil. Whewww...
Or, we could stop the economy, so's we wouldn't do that 600 thousand A-bombs worth of energy damage to the Earth each day. I mean, come on, you don't want your great (x 10,000) grandchildren, down from Traverse City to St. Pete, to not be able enjoy a day at the beach, do you? "The water is boiling! There are no hockey games on, they've got Krispy Kreme instead of Duncan Donuts, and I'm sitting here talking to these rednecks about college football at the Early Bird Special gummin' down my creamed corn and drinkin' sweet tea!"
Preacher Gore, we appreciate your enthusiasm for the Religion of Climate Calamity™ so much. However, I don't think we need to worry about the boiling of the oceans right now. The Earth abides... same as it ever was... same as it ever was... same as it ever was!
* This does not include the 3% of the rest of the water on Earth that's not in the oceans. The AlGore didn't mention the Great Lakes, so I believe our readers in Duluth, Chicago, Muskegon, Marquette, Detroit, Buffalo, Rochester, and Traverse City can rest easy at this point.
Comments:
Hail
Sunday - April 9th 2023 5:48PM MST
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There may be two editions of Goodhart's Anywheres vs. Somewhere book, one UK focused and one general-West focused.
In the 7000-word Counter Currents review, the book cover that is shown says "The Road to Somewhere: The New Tribes Shaping British Politics."
On the book-review site GoodReads, you find a version titled "The Road to Somewhere: The Populist Revolt and the Future of Politics."
There may be two editions of Goodhart's Anywheres vs. Somewhere book, one UK focused and one general-West focused.
In the 7000-word Counter Currents review, the book cover that is shown says "The Road to Somewhere: The New Tribes Shaping British Politics."
On the book-review site GoodReads, you find a version titled "The Road to Somewhere: The Populist Revolt and the Future of Politics."
Dieter Kief
Sunday - April 9th 2023 8:34AM MST
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I agree Mod. - - there is the diagnostic part and the political path - two pairs of shoes with regard to Road to Somewhere.
For me the diagnostic part is what makes this book outstanding.
And one answer he gives to the woke colleges and universities - namely to think twice whether to go there or not, is worth a thorough consideration too.
What does make sense too is that he describes/analyses, what the life of the craftsman/the bus driver/ the care worker looks like and why it is worth a consideration. And: He speaks of Peak Head! with regard to the
British and the US societies.
High craft is in Switzerland, in that bus drivers there for example are better paid than the academic middle ground in Germany. This is also true for craftsmen and lots of other kinds of more or less manual labor: Farmers not least...
Head, Hand, Heart by David Goodhart review – let's think practically | Society books | The Guardian
I agree Mod. - - there is the diagnostic part and the political path - two pairs of shoes with regard to Road to Somewhere.
For me the diagnostic part is what makes this book outstanding.
And one answer he gives to the woke colleges and universities - namely to think twice whether to go there or not, is worth a thorough consideration too.
What does make sense too is that he describes/analyses, what the life of the craftsman/the bus driver/ the care worker looks like and why it is worth a consideration. And: He speaks of Peak Head! with regard to the
British and the US societies.
High craft is in Switzerland, in that bus drivers there for example are better paid than the academic middle ground in Germany. This is also true for craftsmen and lots of other kinds of more or less manual labor: Farmers not least...
Head, Hand, Heart by David Goodhart review – let's think practically | Society books | The Guardian
Moderator
Sunday - April 9th 2023 6:15AM MST
PS: Dieter, I read the review of "Road to Somewhere" on Counter-Currents last evening. That was a doozy! Loooong, but thorough enough to make me think I don't want to read this book.
First of all, that review covered so much, that I doubt I'd have anything to write in my own review - not strictly necessary, of course, and no reason alone not to read a book. However it concentrates on British politics, which I'm not interested in, to be honest. The concept of Anywheres vs Somewheres is a very good one. I know Steve Sailer mentioned it, but I don't remember where he got it from - must have been from Mr. Goodhart, I guess.
Finally, the review noted that the authors proposed solutions were weak and Socialist. The reviewer may not have minded this, but I do. Everything was "throw taxpayers money here instead of there. That's the ticket!" Yeah, that's not helpful at all, IMO. Nationalists (Somewheres) must take full power, before the Globalists (Anywheres) will stop ignoring their wishes.
For Mr. Hail, yeah, I'm guessing you're right in why this guy - in particular - was able to have success with this book.
First of all, that review covered so much, that I doubt I'd have anything to write in my own review - not strictly necessary, of course, and no reason alone not to read a book. However it concentrates on British politics, which I'm not interested in, to be honest. The concept of Anywheres vs Somewheres is a very good one. I know Steve Sailer mentioned it, but I don't remember where he got it from - must have been from Mr. Goodhart, I guess.
Finally, the review noted that the authors proposed solutions were weak and Socialist. The reviewer may not have minded this, but I do. Everything was "throw taxpayers money here instead of there. That's the ticket!" Yeah, that's not helpful at all, IMO. Nationalists (Somewheres) must take full power, before the Globalists (Anywheres) will stop ignoring their wishes.
For Mr. Hail, yeah, I'm guessing you're right in why this guy - in particular - was able to have success with this book.
Dieter Kief
Saturday - April 8th 2023 2:11PM MST
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Mr. Hail - yep, as Iwrote: JB Peterson said at least once in a public live talk I vividly remember, that he read The Bell Curve twice. and that this is a terriffic book!
Mr. Hail - re your remarkabout Daivd Goodharts background being a camouflage-cap for him - - -it's interesting, how positive David Goodharts wikipedia portrait is, given that he shares most of his views now with immigration critic Thilo Sarrazin, who still has trouble to give public talks in Germany, because of mob presence****-... - - - - - - his neo-marxist and judeo-blue-bloodedness and English upper crust upbringing seem to work wonders - - - -
****another difference between Switzerland and Germany: In Switzerland, the police sends a few hnudred officers, when necessary: Sarrazin gave talks ther in front of hundreds of people. The law counts - and the law says: Free speech - -. End of debate, time for police action, if the Antifa thinks otherwise...
Mr. Hail - yep, as Iwrote: JB Peterson said at least once in a public live talk I vividly remember, that he read The Bell Curve twice. and that this is a terriffic book!
Mr. Hail - re your remarkabout Daivd Goodharts background being a camouflage-cap for him - - -it's interesting, how positive David Goodharts wikipedia portrait is, given that he shares most of his views now with immigration critic Thilo Sarrazin, who still has trouble to give public talks in Germany, because of mob presence****-... - - - - - - his neo-marxist and judeo-blue-bloodedness and English upper crust upbringing seem to work wonders - - - -
****another difference between Switzerland and Germany: In Switzerland, the police sends a few hnudred officers, when necessary: Sarrazin gave talks ther in front of hundreds of people. The law counts - and the law says: Free speech - -. End of debate, time for police action, if the Antifa thinks otherwise...
Moderator
Saturday - April 8th 2023 12:22PM MST
PS: Mr. Hail, in the case of Andrew Anglin, yes I agree with you - he is not tied to anywhere, as in any Somewhere, so he feels free to criticize anyone anywhere. I do that too, but i give some credit where it's due. Mr. Anglin doesn't really seem to know that much about how the world works. He sounds juvenile.
That said, I noted after I mentioned him the 2nd time that I had written nearly the same thing about himearlier - as you noticed. I will say that this was not due to my just wanting to rag on him some more, but I had forgotten that I'd written about him already! Yeah, I do that. Otherwise, I may have just linked to the earlier post as far as that subject went.
That said, I noted after I mentioned him the 2nd time that I had written nearly the same thing about himearlier - as you noticed. I will say that this was not due to my just wanting to rag on him some more, but I had forgotten that I'd written about him already! Yeah, I do that. Otherwise, I may have just linked to the earlier post as far as that subject went.
Moderator
Saturday - April 8th 2023 12:17PM MST
PS: Been a bit here - thanks for another on-line book, Adam. I read the discussion here of the author David Goodhart from Messrs Kief and Hail. He sounds like a truth-seeking gentleman, though from the Lehman Bankers tribe (which too often would get someone off to a bad start in life as far as his political views. It sounds like he's gone down a long winding path to get to the truth.
So sorry your comment got eaten, Dieter. Was it simply the no "PS" problem, in which case, if you have your wits about you, you can hit the browser back button and see your writing? Thanks for the very interesting comment.
(Also thanks for the link, Dieter, to counter-currents - I will check that out after this.)
So sorry your comment got eaten, Dieter. Was it simply the no "PS" problem, in which case, if you have your wits about you, you can hit the browser back button and see your writing? Thanks for the very interesting comment.
(Also thanks for the link, Dieter, to counter-currents - I will check that out after this.)
Hail
Saturday - April 8th 2023 10:27AM MST
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I am more curious now about the "Somewheres vs. Anywheres" David Goodhart book (that you, Mr. Kief, have mentioned here a few times), now that I hear that he is Jewish with elite-transnational ties. These are some of the traditional ingredients for being an "Anywhere," after all.
If Goodhart himself were an ancestral Christian with right-wing views, his Somewheres vs. Anywheres book might have gotten very negative attention from certain places, or not been published. He also might never have become a big journalist at all in that case. The great privilege of being a part of that group in our time allows an intellectual space that is a great gift.
The "Somewheres vs. Anywheres" book argument seems more complex than anything about ethnoreligious groups, though. Peak Stupidity's editor-in-chief here refers negatively to the tiring, years-long Internet troll A. Anglin with negative comments from time to time (whenever he brings up the name). That man is in fact a caricature of an anti-Semite and an "attention-troll." He leads lives a life entirely online to a comical degree; everything he says is about some Internet-drama, he never comments on anything else. He is said to live in the Philippines. That man's life itself has interesting components of being an "Anywhere." The concept of the "social media personality," indeed, means you don't have to have a connection to place. No one knows or cares where even very-big "social media personalities" live, because it doesn't matter. They are Anywheres.
I am more curious now about the "Somewheres vs. Anywheres" David Goodhart book (that you, Mr. Kief, have mentioned here a few times), now that I hear that he is Jewish with elite-transnational ties. These are some of the traditional ingredients for being an "Anywhere," after all.
If Goodhart himself were an ancestral Christian with right-wing views, his Somewheres vs. Anywheres book might have gotten very negative attention from certain places, or not been published. He also might never have become a big journalist at all in that case. The great privilege of being a part of that group in our time allows an intellectual space that is a great gift.
The "Somewheres vs. Anywheres" book argument seems more complex than anything about ethnoreligious groups, though. Peak Stupidity's editor-in-chief here refers negatively to the tiring, years-long Internet troll A. Anglin with negative comments from time to time (whenever he brings up the name). That man is in fact a caricature of an anti-Semite and an "attention-troll." He leads lives a life entirely online to a comical degree; everything he says is about some Internet-drama, he never comments on anything else. He is said to live in the Philippines. That man's life itself has interesting components of being an "Anywhere." The concept of the "social media personality," indeed, means you don't have to have a connection to place. No one knows or cares where even very-big "social media personalities" live, because it doesn't matter. They are Anywheres.
Hail
Saturday - April 8th 2023 10:12AM MST
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Jordan Peterson said he read "The Bell Curve" twice?
Jordan Peterson said he read "The Bell Curve" twice?
Dieter Kief
Saturday - April 8th 2023 1:53AM MST
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Thx. again Adam - - -
Re: Mr. Hail/ David Goodhart - - -
I read Goodhart since the Nineties - - 89/90 - - - he lived in Germany then.
He made the same move lately as Peter Boghossian: Telling the young not to go to university, but rather learn a craft - he even wrote a book about becoming a craftsman - - - .
Another step he made - like his colleague Douglas Murray - and maybe like Murray with the help of JB Peterson: He learned to appareciate The Bell Curve - - - Peterson: I've read this one twice - - - . It's overwhelmingly good...
Goodhart citicised Thilo Sarrazin (Germany Does Away With Itself, 2010 !!! - a book of prophecy, I tells ya that - -) in the beginning for his - gene-fixation - - - - as it turns out, Dr. Sarrazin was right - Mr. Goodhart was wrong - and admitted that (which does not happen too often).
The most ironic thing here is - - - and I don't know why that seems to be just me who gets and points at that time and time again:
It is a .m.a.t.e.r.i.a.l.i.s.t.i.c. thing to acknowledge the role genes play in our life - - - so basically a very : - - Marxian thing, hehe. - - - -Goodhart started as a neo-Marxistic - - - offspring of the - - - - - Lehman bankers tribe - - - that seems to be a law, almost: Be the offspring of a rich family and listen to the - - - imperativ - - - to march with the left!! (lately charming and good looking playwright and pubic intellectual Laura de Weck in Switzerland - - - and the daughter ofMaria Furtwängler and Burda in Germany - - -the only child of publisher Burda - - -a multi bilionaire - - now making RAP-songs*** - - - and yes her mother is a direct descandeant of the world famousconductor Furtwängler -- - - -).
***the difference between Switzerland and Germany: Laura de Weck is a charming writer and debater - the Burda-offspring not only looks rahter desperate, but is a rather ousy rapper too - and is publicly backed by her other, famous actress maria furtwängler - - -this a de Weck would never do - - -bacause - Zwingli-ism/calvinism: You have to show in your works that you are a creature that God - might - - - respect - -
Guilt + tons of money + juedo chrtian backgroud + bad taste in the mouth at the grandparent's breakfast table = Neo-Marxist radical!
(btw .- one more comment of mine eaten up by the system while posting it- - - system is hungry - - -I provide food - - -so - - -there we go - now I made a copy again, as so often before, heheh - - ).
Thx. again Adam - - -
Re: Mr. Hail/ David Goodhart - - -
I read Goodhart since the Nineties - - 89/90 - - - he lived in Germany then.
He made the same move lately as Peter Boghossian: Telling the young not to go to university, but rather learn a craft - he even wrote a book about becoming a craftsman - - - .
Another step he made - like his colleague Douglas Murray - and maybe like Murray with the help of JB Peterson: He learned to appareciate The Bell Curve - - - Peterson: I've read this one twice - - - . It's overwhelmingly good...
Goodhart citicised Thilo Sarrazin (Germany Does Away With Itself, 2010 !!! - a book of prophecy, I tells ya that - -) in the beginning for his - gene-fixation - - - - as it turns out, Dr. Sarrazin was right - Mr. Goodhart was wrong - and admitted that (which does not happen too often).
The most ironic thing here is - - - and I don't know why that seems to be just me who gets and points at that time and time again:
It is a .m.a.t.e.r.i.a.l.i.s.t.i.c. thing to acknowledge the role genes play in our life - - - so basically a very : - - Marxian thing, hehe. - - - -Goodhart started as a neo-Marxistic - - - offspring of the - - - - - Lehman bankers tribe - - - that seems to be a law, almost: Be the offspring of a rich family and listen to the - - - imperativ - - - to march with the left!! (lately charming and good looking playwright and pubic intellectual Laura de Weck in Switzerland - - - and the daughter ofMaria Furtwängler and Burda in Germany - - -the only child of publisher Burda - - -a multi bilionaire - - now making RAP-songs*** - - - and yes her mother is a direct descandeant of the world famousconductor Furtwängler -- - - -).
***the difference between Switzerland and Germany: Laura de Weck is a charming writer and debater - the Burda-offspring not only looks rahter desperate, but is a rather ousy rapper too - and is publicly backed by her other, famous actress maria furtwängler - - -this a de Weck would never do - - -bacause - Zwingli-ism/calvinism: You have to show in your works that you are a creature that God - might - - - respect - -
Guilt + tons of money + juedo chrtian backgroud + bad taste in the mouth at the grandparent's breakfast table = Neo-Marxist radical!
(btw .- one more comment of mine eaten up by the system while posting it- - - system is hungry - - -I provide food - - -so - - -there we go - now I made a copy again, as so often before, heheh - - ).
Hail
Friday - April 7th 2023 9:06AM MST
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Mr. Kief: I am curious, where did you first hear about the "Road to Somewhere" David Goodhart book? If you remember.
Mr. Kief: I am curious, where did you first hear about the "Road to Somewhere" David Goodhart book? If you remember.
Dieter Kief
Friday - April 7th 2023 6:48AM MST
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We'll be in the Lutherean church soon Alarmist - to attend The Matthäus Passion by JS Bach - - -
I'd think that the Koreans would try to pack even more polymeres into electricity - - - then think that the Chinese arre chatching up on them - - -
We'll be in the Lutherean church soon Alarmist - to attend The Matthäus Passion by JS Bach - - -
I'd think that the Koreans would try to pack even more polymeres into electricity - - - then think that the Chinese arre chatching up on them - - -
Adam Smith
Friday - April 7th 2023 5:54AM MST
PS: Happy Good Friday to you too, Mr. Alarmist! ☮
The Alarmist
Friday - April 7th 2023 5:50AM MST
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Batteries are indeed a limiting factor of the Green/Net Zero fantasy, but power generation and transmission is still THE major limiting factor. There is no clean way other than nuclear to generate the vast power need to make everything run on electricity, and there’s not enough copper in the world to move the electrons around (not just powerlines, but also in the motors).
They want us to eat the bugs to become the bugs, living in little hovels assigned tous by our Earthly lords and masters ... at least for the 500 million or so they allow to survive and work the Planet they are working hard to wrest from our individual stewarding through productive private ownership.
“Then you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
Happy Good Friday (Karfreitag auf Deutsch, which is kind of like Mourning Friday ... Are you dancing, Mr. Kief Kief? Vendredi saint in my neck of the woods).
🕉
Batteries are indeed a limiting factor of the Green/Net Zero fantasy, but power generation and transmission is still THE major limiting factor. There is no clean way other than nuclear to generate the vast power need to make everything run on electricity, and there’s not enough copper in the world to move the electrons around (not just powerlines, but also in the motors).
They want us to eat the bugs to become the bugs, living in little hovels assigned tous by our Earthly lords and masters ... at least for the 500 million or so they allow to survive and work the Planet they are working hard to wrest from our individual stewarding through productive private ownership.
“Then you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
Happy Good Friday (Karfreitag auf Deutsch, which is kind of like Mourning Friday ... Are you dancing, Mr. Kief Kief? Vendredi saint in my neck of the woods).
🕉
Peak Stupidity Book Club
Friday - April 7th 2023 5:18AM MST
PS: The Road to Somewhere: The Populist Revolt and the Future of Politics...
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Dieter Kief
Friday - April 7th 2023 4:30AM MST
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Adam thx. - - - - the anwhere-ism goes back to The Road to Somewhere by David Goddhart - a case for the PS-Book-club, if it has not yet been put on this list - - - it is a very insightful look at our super-mobile times and the divide between fly-over-country and the golden-egg-islands liek the coastla regions in the US and greater paris/ Toulouse/Lyon and London - - - Hamburg - - - Milano/Turino Zürich/Basel/Geneva...Shen-Zen - - -greater Tokyo...
https://counter-currents.com/2018/01/going-somewhere/
Adam thx. - - - - the anwhere-ism goes back to The Road to Somewhere by David Goddhart - a case for the PS-Book-club, if it has not yet been put on this list - - - it is a very insightful look at our super-mobile times and the divide between fly-over-country and the golden-egg-islands liek the coastla regions in the US and greater paris/ Toulouse/Lyon and London - - - Hamburg - - - Milano/Turino Zürich/Basel/Geneva...Shen-Zen - - -greater Tokyo...
https://counter-currents.com/2018/01/going-somewhere/
Adam Smith
Friday - April 7th 2023 1:35AM MST
PS: Greetings, my dearest friend Dieter,
Anywhere vs Somewhere... ?
Cheers to another great evening, I hope this comment finds you and Mrs. Kief more than well... 🍻
Thriving, and happy, with a smile upon your faces...
yada yada... wef, own nothing be happy, yada blah blah blah...
True story...
There is pride in ownership...
and while there is some convenience in renting...
There is no replacing ownership...
if we are all renters, things just wont be as nice...
'cause landlords just don't keep it as nice as "owners" otherwise would...
just sayin'
Hope you have a great rest of the evening, or morning, afternoon, or whenever this message finds you...
Cheers!
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Anywhere vs Somewhere... ?
Cheers to another great evening, I hope this comment finds you and Mrs. Kief more than well... 🍻
Thriving, and happy, with a smile upon your faces...
yada yada... wef, own nothing be happy, yada blah blah blah...
True story...
There is pride in ownership...
and while there is some convenience in renting...
There is no replacing ownership...
if we are all renters, things just wont be as nice...
'cause landlords just don't keep it as nice as "owners" otherwise would...
just sayin'
Hope you have a great rest of the evening, or morning, afternoon, or whenever this message finds you...
Cheers!
☮
Dieter Kief
Friday - April 7th 2023 1:07AM MST
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RE: Mr. Hail Mr. Kunsterl - we can't go all electric car-wise
Technical and social and political changes are interdependent but not functions of one another. - there are millions of miles for room to move.
What counts for the Korean researchers/chemists is: Will that stuff work? How much does it cost? - It might cost less than li-ion batteries, because polymers are cheap compared to the rare metals that go into those...
Investment wise, that thing looks like a no-brainer and Al Gore types will be on the phone and talk about this little article - probably since years - - - (that's why they make such effective investments - they're ahead - - - ).
One more thing: The atom-bomb metaphor you wrote about mod. served purposes on the global mass market for attention - - -
1) it signalled: we lost behind the time when we had to fear that all these nukes would go off! - We can now somehow think about nukes going off in a different - much much less catastrophic and much much more peaceful way.
2) He used the existing panic that was (and is) still attached to nukes, to - - - ring the alarm -bell about climate change.
So his nukes going off idea had to be hardly correct. It was suffice, that it fit into the existing thinking patterns on a mass scale, to work perfectly well for his purposes.
As I've written so often, theWEF is not the big driver to get worldwide communism. The quote you will own nothing meant just, that the whole global economy with its super-mobility asks for people who are super mobile and thus have overcome to own houses or cars - because that hinders the dynamic. The more dynamically oriented you are, the more you'll realize that your life is much easier and flexible if you don't own things, because if you rent them, the whole business of keeping them going is not your business anymore. They touted super-flexibility and super anywhereism - that's what they did.
There is a subtle subtext of a hippie-mindset and - - - -Christian/Marixan utopianism in it - no possessions (John Lennon/ Yoko Ono - Imagine - - - ) - and of Erich Fromm's To Have Or To Be - the second most popular book of his, it sold millions of copies worldwide after the global megaseller The Art of Loving wich is in the tens of millions.
RE: Mr. Hail Mr. Kunsterl - we can't go all electric car-wise
Technical and social and political changes are interdependent but not functions of one another. - there are millions of miles for room to move.
What counts for the Korean researchers/chemists is: Will that stuff work? How much does it cost? - It might cost less than li-ion batteries, because polymers are cheap compared to the rare metals that go into those...
Investment wise, that thing looks like a no-brainer and Al Gore types will be on the phone and talk about this little article - probably since years - - - (that's why they make such effective investments - they're ahead - - - ).
One more thing: The atom-bomb metaphor you wrote about mod. served purposes on the global mass market for attention - - -
1) it signalled: we lost behind the time when we had to fear that all these nukes would go off! - We can now somehow think about nukes going off in a different - much much less catastrophic and much much more peaceful way.
2) He used the existing panic that was (and is) still attached to nukes, to - - - ring the alarm -bell about climate change.
So his nukes going off idea had to be hardly correct. It was suffice, that it fit into the existing thinking patterns on a mass scale, to work perfectly well for his purposes.
As I've written so often, theWEF is not the big driver to get worldwide communism. The quote you will own nothing meant just, that the whole global economy with its super-mobility asks for people who are super mobile and thus have overcome to own houses or cars - because that hinders the dynamic. The more dynamically oriented you are, the more you'll realize that your life is much easier and flexible if you don't own things, because if you rent them, the whole business of keeping them going is not your business anymore. They touted super-flexibility and super anywhereism - that's what they did.
There is a subtle subtext of a hippie-mindset and - - - -Christian/Marixan utopianism in it - no possessions (John Lennon/ Yoko Ono - Imagine - - - ) - and of Erich Fromm's To Have Or To Be - the second most popular book of his, it sold millions of copies worldwide after the global megaseller The Art of Loving wich is in the tens of millions.
Moderator
Thursday - April 6th 2023 7:10PM MST
PS: Yes, Mr. Hail, I too had forgotten about Al Gore and the "information superhighway" talk (I doubt he originated the term) and that "This guy invented the internet, you know." joke that I liked so much. Five years back I would have mentioned that. That was a better side of this guy, as it may have SEEMED like a lot of hype back then (did to me, but I've been cynical a long time), but he was right in hindsight.
Maybe his being right on this very important technical and social upheaval has given him a big head. He's got a new "big thing" to tout, this time more doom-like than the bright internet future.. uhhh, I mean as it looked then and was for a time. This Climate Calamity™ futurism seems to be selling pretty well, but there's more to it.
The WEF folks want control of the population and Al Gore probably knows and wants all that ... for the good of us all, of course ...Otherwise, he's being a big dupe of the Globalists.
Maybe his being right on this very important technical and social upheaval has given him a big head. He's got a new "big thing" to tout, this time more doom-like than the bright internet future.. uhhh, I mean as it looked then and was for a time. This Climate Calamity™ futurism seems to be selling pretty well, but there's more to it.
The WEF folks want control of the population and Al Gore probably knows and wants all that ... for the good of us all, of course ...Otherwise, he's being a big dupe of the Globalists.
Hail
Thursday - April 6th 2023 5:58PM MST
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RE: Batteries of electric cars made 10x more efficient
Let me quote some lines from the arch techno-pessimist James Howard Kunstler, typical of what he has said about the electric car question for many years.
By quoting these lines I mean to suggest the electric car problem cannot be limited to a technical question of efficiency of batteries.
Also note how Kunstler anticipates some of the Great Reset themes back in 2018:
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NOT SO HAPPY MOTORING
by James Howard Kunstler
March 30, 2018
(...) The cherry-on-top is the fantasy that before much longer all electric power will come from “renewables,” solar and wind, and we can leave the whole fossil fuel mess behind us. We say that to ourselves as a sort of prayer, and it has exactly that value.
There are at least a couple of other holes in the story, big-picture wise. One is that electric mass motoring — switching out the whole liquid fuel fleet for an all-electric fleet — won’t pencil out economically. We probably started the project forty years too late to even be able to test it at scale (...)
The usual answer...is that you won’t need to own a car because the nation will be served by self-driving electric Uber-style cars-on-demand, which will supposedly require far fewer cars in all. That really doesn’t answer some big questions, such as: how might commuting work in our big metroplex cities? Even if you posit multiple occupancy vehicles, it still represents a whole lot of car trips. Oh, you say, everybody will just work from home. Really? I don’t think so — though I wouldn’t rule out an end to corporate organization of work as we’ve known it, and if that happens, we will be a nation of farmers and artisans again, that is, a World Made By Hand. Also consider, if the car companies only need to make and sell a fraction of the vehicles they sell now, the whole industry will collapse.
Another hole in the story is the universal assumption that the USA must remain a land of mandatory car dependency, hostage to the fiasco of our suburban infrastructure. I understand why we’re attached to it. We spent most of the 20th century building all that shit, and squandered most our wealth on it. It’s comfortably familiar, even if it’s actually a miserable environment for everyday life. But none of those monetary and psychological investments negate the fact that suburbia has outlived its limited and rather perverse usefulness.
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/not-happy-motoring/
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RE: Batteries of electric cars made 10x more efficient
Let me quote some lines from the arch techno-pessimist James Howard Kunstler, typical of what he has said about the electric car question for many years.
By quoting these lines I mean to suggest the electric car problem cannot be limited to a technical question of efficiency of batteries.
Also note how Kunstler anticipates some of the Great Reset themes back in 2018:
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NOT SO HAPPY MOTORING
by James Howard Kunstler
March 30, 2018
(...) The cherry-on-top is the fantasy that before much longer all electric power will come from “renewables,” solar and wind, and we can leave the whole fossil fuel mess behind us. We say that to ourselves as a sort of prayer, and it has exactly that value.
There are at least a couple of other holes in the story, big-picture wise. One is that electric mass motoring — switching out the whole liquid fuel fleet for an all-electric fleet — won’t pencil out economically. We probably started the project forty years too late to even be able to test it at scale (...)
The usual answer...is that you won’t need to own a car because the nation will be served by self-driving electric Uber-style cars-on-demand, which will supposedly require far fewer cars in all. That really doesn’t answer some big questions, such as: how might commuting work in our big metroplex cities? Even if you posit multiple occupancy vehicles, it still represents a whole lot of car trips. Oh, you say, everybody will just work from home. Really? I don’t think so — though I wouldn’t rule out an end to corporate organization of work as we’ve known it, and if that happens, we will be a nation of farmers and artisans again, that is, a World Made By Hand. Also consider, if the car companies only need to make and sell a fraction of the vehicles they sell now, the whole industry will collapse.
Another hole in the story is the universal assumption that the USA must remain a land of mandatory car dependency, hostage to the fiasco of our suburban infrastructure. I understand why we’re attached to it. We spent most of the 20th century building all that shit, and squandered most our wealth on it. It’s comfortably familiar, even if it’s actually a miserable environment for everyday life. But none of those monetary and psychological investments negate the fact that suburbia has outlived its limited and rather perverse usefulness.
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/not-happy-motoring/
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The Alarmist
Thursday - April 6th 2023 2:22PM MST
PS
Gore is also a Senior Partner at Kleiner Perkins, a Silicon Valley venture capital firm that has a rich variety of high-tech deal flow. They were early investors in Amazon, Google, and Snap, among many others.
I would imagine that in addition to getting a carried interest on a number of their deals that he gets to co-invest his own money alongside the partnership’s. It’s a sweet deal, as you get to co-invest in the most promising of the partnership’s portfolio investments.
Gore is also a Senior Partner at Kleiner Perkins, a Silicon Valley venture capital firm that has a rich variety of high-tech deal flow. They were early investors in Amazon, Google, and Snap, among many others.
I would imagine that in addition to getting a carried interest on a number of their deals that he gets to co-invest his own money alongside the partnership’s. It’s a sweet deal, as you get to co-invest in the most promising of the partnership’s portfolio investments.
Dieter Kief
Thursday - April 6th 2023 1:43PM MST
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One more for algore's Go-Green-fund - - Batteries of electric cars to be - possibly - - - - possibly - - imroved 10x. Korean chemists say so. They found/ constructed a polymere that enhances the li-io-batteries in a stunning way - -
https://scitechdaily.com/10x-ev-range-boost-with-revolutionary-lithium-ion-battery-technology/?utm_content=cmp-true
One more for algore's Go-Green-fund - - Batteries of electric cars to be - possibly - - - - possibly - - imroved 10x. Korean chemists say so. They found/ constructed a polymere that enhances the li-io-batteries in a stunning way - -
https://scitechdaily.com/10x-ev-range-boost-with-revolutionary-lithium-ion-battery-technology/?utm_content=cmp-true
Hail
Thursday - April 6th 2023 11:21AM MST
PS
(by the way, I just happened to hear a news report today, few hours ago, in which they gave the names of three or four more arrested January Six'ers. They read the names and alleged these people had "damaged barricades" or something, which helped allow the Insurrectionists to assault police. At least two of the names were women. The news-man announced "the arrests keep coming"...)
(by the way, I just happened to hear a news report today, few hours ago, in which they gave the names of three or four more arrested January Six'ers. They read the names and alleged these people had "damaged barricades" or something, which helped allow the Insurrectionists to assault police. At least two of the names were women. The news-man announced "the arrests keep coming"...)
Hail
Thursday - April 6th 2023 11:18AM MST
PS
-- The Garland Question revisited --
For those who remember the Peak Stupidity post about Merrick Garland of a week or two ago,
check HailToYou.wordpress.com for my little study of Merrick Garland (2020s) vs. his same-named predecessor as attorney general, Augustus Garland (1880s)...:
“A TALE OF TWO GARLANDS”: A STUDY OF U.S. REGIME DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE CONTRAST OF TWO ATTORNEYS GENRAL, 1880s vs. 2020s
-- The Garland Question revisited --
For those who remember the Peak Stupidity post about Merrick Garland of a week or two ago,
check HailToYou.wordpress.com for my little study of Merrick Garland (2020s) vs. his same-named predecessor as attorney general, Augustus Garland (1880s)...:
“A TALE OF TWO GARLANDS”: A STUDY OF U.S. REGIME DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE CONTRAST OF TWO ATTORNEYS GENRAL, 1880s vs. 2020s
Hail
Thursday - April 6th 2023 11:02AM MST
PS
- On Al Gore's place in history -
For several years in the 1990s, Al Gore aggressively promoted what he called the "Information Superhighway." He popularized that term. I suppose he didn't coin it. But people heard of it from him and associated it with him.
Al Gore's early-1990s-era promotion of an optimistic vision of a coming "Information Superhighway," a mystique of the Internet, along with his early-1990s activist boosterism for the early Internet in Congress and through the '92 running-mate bully pulpit and then the vice-presidential bully-pulpit, these things DO give him a place in a Social History of the Internet such as the one that was taking shape through discussion here in the past week or ten days.
Al Gore's Internet role is now mostly forgotten, and it's been years since I've even heard anyone made an "Invented the Internet" joke about him. These days, everyone who knows Al Gore in the 2000s, 2010s, or now 2020s associates him with Climate Change.
I have not been a close follower of Al Gore's life and work, but it doesn't seem like back in the 1990s he was a big Global Warming guy or the Ozone Layer alarmist. It seems like he came out swinging only in the 2000s with his talks and his Inconvenient Truth movie.
With some of the negatives the Internet has clearly had on and social mores and cohesion, I wonder when/if Al Gore ever re-evaluated his optimistic Internet-Futurist-Triumphalism of thirty years ago. Likewise I wonder if he has had comparable second-thoughts on his later-life crusade about the Climate Crisis.
- On Al Gore's place in history -
For several years in the 1990s, Al Gore aggressively promoted what he called the "Information Superhighway." He popularized that term. I suppose he didn't coin it. But people heard of it from him and associated it with him.
Al Gore's early-1990s-era promotion of an optimistic vision of a coming "Information Superhighway," a mystique of the Internet, along with his early-1990s activist boosterism for the early Internet in Congress and through the '92 running-mate bully pulpit and then the vice-presidential bully-pulpit, these things DO give him a place in a Social History of the Internet such as the one that was taking shape through discussion here in the past week or ten days.
Al Gore's Internet role is now mostly forgotten, and it's been years since I've even heard anyone made an "Invented the Internet" joke about him. These days, everyone who knows Al Gore in the 2000s, 2010s, or now 2020s associates him with Climate Change.
I have not been a close follower of Al Gore's life and work, but it doesn't seem like back in the 1990s he was a big Global Warming guy or the Ozone Layer alarmist. It seems like he came out swinging only in the 2000s with his talks and his Inconvenient Truth movie.
With some of the negatives the Internet has clearly had on and social mores and cohesion, I wonder when/if Al Gore ever re-evaluated his optimistic Internet-Futurist-Triumphalism of thirty years ago. Likewise I wonder if he has had comparable second-thoughts on his later-life crusade about the Climate Crisis.
Moderator
Thursday - April 6th 2023 10:32AM MST
PS; That comment would make a very nice blog post, Mr. Smith. That was a nice was to end it!
I appreciate the "how did I get here?" photo just as much though. I guess it'd been even better with an old '70s land yacht, but you can't always find exactly the image you want, I've found out.
I appreciate the "how did I get here?" photo just as much though. I guess it'd been even better with an old '70s land yacht, but you can't always find exactly the image you want, I've found out.
Same as it ever was
Thursday - April 6th 2023 8:38AM MST
PS: Same as it ever was...
https://i.ibb.co/3sNTVG6/Same-As-It-Ever-Was.jpg
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https://i.ibb.co/3sNTVG6/Same-As-It-Ever-Was.jpg
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Adam Smith
Thursday - April 6th 2023 8:30AM MST
PS: Good morning, everyone,
Al Gore, a climate alarmist who lives a jet-setting, carbon-profligate lifestyle while preaching asceticism for everyone else. How did he turn a fortune of less than $2 million into a net worth of over $330 million? Let's find out...
(Spoiler alert! It wasn't cattle futures.)
(It wasn't coal mining either, as I erroneously thought.)
They say Al Gore had a meager net worth of only 1.7 million dollar bucks in 1999. There is mention him selling $6,000 worth of cows, earning $570,000 from royalties on his zinc mine and income from leasing pasture land on his farm.
But his real wealth came from a few other activities...
• Four years after losing to George W Bush in 2000, Gore set up Generation Investment Management with former Goldman Sachs Managing Director and close friend David W. Blood.
The mission statement of the investment firm, where Gore collects $2 million in a monthly salary, is to back companies that are making strides towards going green. The firm is worth around $36 billion.
Between 2008 and 2011, the firm generated roughly $218 million in profits to be split among its 26 partners. The firm owns millions of shares in companies such as Amazon, Microsoft, Google's parent Alphabet, finance giant Charles Schwab and tractor king John Deere. Gore told Wired in 2017 that among the first companies that Generation invested in was BP.
• The sale of Current TV to Al Jazeera netted him a cool $70 million in January of 2013.
• Two weeks later, Gore exercised options, at US$7.48 a share, on 59,000 shares of Apple Inc. stock that he’d been granted for serving on the Cupertino, California-based company’s board since 2003. On paper, it was about a $30 million payday based on the company’s share price on the day he claimed the options.
(Gore isn’t finished exercising his Apple stock grants. Those 59,000 are part of 101,358 Apple options and shares of restricted stock Gore has amassed, according to company filings, giving his total holdings a gross value of more than $45.6 million today.)
• Gore invested in a new startup called VideoSurf, in 2011, in which he has an estimated stake of $28,000,000.
• He also won the Nobel Peace Prize ($1.5 million cash prize) and he charges ~$200,000 per speaking event.
• The Daily Wire reported that Mr. Gore’s personal net worth has increased by more than $100 million because of his Climate Change™ hustle. He has been criticized for his profiting from the situation which is still considered by many to be a hoax, while others call him a hero and one of the great humanitarians of our age.
https://moneyinc.com/al-gore-net-worth/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11653723/How-Al-Gore-300m-climate-alarmism-Former-VP-fortune-losing-George-W.html
Not bad for the World's Fattest Vegan.
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Al Gore, a climate alarmist who lives a jet-setting, carbon-profligate lifestyle while preaching asceticism for everyone else. How did he turn a fortune of less than $2 million into a net worth of over $330 million? Let's find out...
(Spoiler alert! It wasn't cattle futures.)
(It wasn't coal mining either, as I erroneously thought.)
They say Al Gore had a meager net worth of only 1.7 million dollar bucks in 1999. There is mention him selling $6,000 worth of cows, earning $570,000 from royalties on his zinc mine and income from leasing pasture land on his farm.
But his real wealth came from a few other activities...
• Four years after losing to George W Bush in 2000, Gore set up Generation Investment Management with former Goldman Sachs Managing Director and close friend David W. Blood.
The mission statement of the investment firm, where Gore collects $2 million in a monthly salary, is to back companies that are making strides towards going green. The firm is worth around $36 billion.
Between 2008 and 2011, the firm generated roughly $218 million in profits to be split among its 26 partners. The firm owns millions of shares in companies such as Amazon, Microsoft, Google's parent Alphabet, finance giant Charles Schwab and tractor king John Deere. Gore told Wired in 2017 that among the first companies that Generation invested in was BP.
• The sale of Current TV to Al Jazeera netted him a cool $70 million in January of 2013.
• Two weeks later, Gore exercised options, at US$7.48 a share, on 59,000 shares of Apple Inc. stock that he’d been granted for serving on the Cupertino, California-based company’s board since 2003. On paper, it was about a $30 million payday based on the company’s share price on the day he claimed the options.
(Gore isn’t finished exercising his Apple stock grants. Those 59,000 are part of 101,358 Apple options and shares of restricted stock Gore has amassed, according to company filings, giving his total holdings a gross value of more than $45.6 million today.)
• Gore invested in a new startup called VideoSurf, in 2011, in which he has an estimated stake of $28,000,000.
• He also won the Nobel Peace Prize ($1.5 million cash prize) and he charges ~$200,000 per speaking event.
• The Daily Wire reported that Mr. Gore’s personal net worth has increased by more than $100 million because of his Climate Change™ hustle. He has been criticized for his profiting from the situation which is still considered by many to be a hoax, while others call him a hero and one of the great humanitarians of our age.
https://moneyinc.com/al-gore-net-worth/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11653723/How-Al-Gore-300m-climate-alarmism-Former-VP-fortune-losing-George-W.html
Not bad for the World's Fattest Vegan.
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Moderator
Thursday - April 6th 2023 7:05AM MST
PS: I forget some of these scandals, Alarmist. Hard to keep them all in my head. Thanks.
M, that'd be a very nice easy calculation, I think. Just radiation heat transfer involved - what to use for absorption factor for the ocean surface, I don't know, but if you don't do this one, I'll give it a shot.
M, that'd be a very nice easy calculation, I think. Just radiation heat transfer involved - what to use for absorption factor for the ocean surface, I don't know, but if you don't do this one, I'll give it a shot.
Moderator
Thursday - April 6th 2023 7:03AM MST
PS: I don't know, Dieter. This guy purports to be the expert. If he hasn't mentioned the Great Lakes boiling, then his model must have predicted that. So, the lake house will still sell for what we want, barring high interest rates, but that's too complicated to model ... ;-}
"The World's Fattest Vegan". Haha! I didn't know he was that rich either. It takes a clever man to turn that warm bucket of spit from the Vice-Presidency into $300,000,000. Cattle futures, perhaps?
"The World's Fattest Vegan". Haha! I didn't know he was that rich either. It takes a clever man to turn that warm bucket of spit from the Vice-Presidency into $300,000,000. Cattle futures, perhaps?
M
Thursday - April 6th 2023 5:00AM MST
PS
Another comparison would be the heat from our processes vs. the differential between the sun heating the ocean during the day and the sun not heating the ocean at night.
Haven't done the math but I suspect the sun is a much larger source of heat.
Another comparison would be the heat from our processes vs. the differential between the sun heating the ocean during the day and the sun not heating the ocean at night.
Haven't done the math but I suspect the sun is a much larger source of heat.
The Alarmist
Thursday - April 6th 2023 2:35AM MST
PS
This would be the same Al Gore who had no trouble dialing for campaign dollars from the Chinese in the 1990s from his official office, and when called out on it, said that there was no controlling legal authority.
This would be the same Al Gore who had no trouble dialing for campaign dollars from the Chinese in the 1990s from his official office, and when called out on it, said that there was no controlling legal authority.
SafeNow
Thursday - April 6th 2023 1:04AM MST
PS
Al Gore, who must be the world’s fattest vegan, and ranked a lowly 25 out of 51 in his prep school graduating class, has a net worth of $300 million.
“It’s an unjust world and virtue is triumphant only in theatrical performances.” (Gilbert & Sullivan). Anyway, that’s impressive math, Mr. Moderator, at the internment camp please teach us some of that.
Al Gore, who must be the world’s fattest vegan, and ranked a lowly 25 out of 51 in his prep school graduating class, has a net worth of $300 million.
“It’s an unjust world and virtue is triumphant only in theatrical performances.” (Gilbert & Sullivan). Anyway, that’s impressive math, Mr. Moderator, at the internment camp please teach us some of that.
Dieter Kief
Wednesday - April 5th 2023 11:46PM MST
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Oh yep - - take it easy. The metaphors carry us far-far afar --- but that'd be more of a social thing: Metaphorlogy. - I once even wrote a paper about it! Interesting stuff!
Now - let us not downpaly social things. These are a thoroughly underestimated life-changing powers. We see that quite easily. And Al Gore was part of the race to the top of the - highly potential, highly potential!! - : - worth of gigatons of explosives each hour!!!*** - - -social scare- und "dare you" chain. And he got wide and afar with this achievement at the top of the social ladder of C-CH (new label for Climate Change, that!).
Impressive stunt from Al Gore!
And since the hypert-explosive nuclear impressionary of Al Gore reaches those at the shores of the Great Lakes too, this might diminish their easiness...unfortunately, Mr. Mod., and unnecessarily. Completely agree here too!
***my rough estimate - could be a bit over the top, but also under the top - no guarantee of note is here written/ Louieee, unhappy kitten...
Oh yep - - take it easy. The metaphors carry us far-far afar --- but that'd be more of a social thing: Metaphorlogy. - I once even wrote a paper about it! Interesting stuff!
Now - let us not downpaly social things. These are a thoroughly underestimated life-changing powers. We see that quite easily. And Al Gore was part of the race to the top of the - highly potential, highly potential!! - : - worth of gigatons of explosives each hour!!!*** - - -social scare- und "dare you" chain. And he got wide and afar with this achievement at the top of the social ladder of C-CH (new label for Climate Change, that!).
Impressive stunt from Al Gore!
And since the hypert-explosive nuclear impressionary of Al Gore reaches those at the shores of the Great Lakes too, this might diminish their easiness...unfortunately, Mr. Mod., and unnecessarily. Completely agree here too!
***my rough estimate - could be a bit over the top, but also under the top - no guarantee of note is here written/ Louieee, unhappy kitten...
from a GoodReads review of the Somewheres vs. Anywheres book:
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(by Somethingsnotright - Sept. 2019)
...The author identifies as an Anywhere but reports being "often taken aback at the lack of awareness" of his tribe. He relates stories of academics, NGO's and goverment officials talking about mass migration flows as if they were "generals moving troops around a battlefield" while "blithely ignoring there is such a thing as society", with successful societies being based on "cooperation, familiarity and trust and on bonds of language, history and culture".
Somewheres believe migration inflow levels must be managed in such a way that allows immigrants to be "absorbed into that hard-to-define thing we call a 'national culture' or 'way of life'." The multiculturalism experiment has failed, politicians and policy makers have admitted. Somewheres have seen the fabric of their society altered irrevocably and now feel like foreigners in their own towns. Somewheres weren't even necessarily born in that town or the UK. But, they chose to move there because the way of life attracted them and now they see it unravelling. Do not tell them diversity is strength. They want their way of life back.
Anywheres don't mind. They live in affluent neighbourhoods out of the reach of the majority of immigrants who cannot afford to live there. They live on large plots of land with 3 mile driveways (J.K. Rowling) and cry "racism" when low income Somewheres from Luton complains that they are the minority in their own town. ...
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