Trump v DeSantis: Round 5 - The Ukraine/Russia War(mongering)

Posted On: Thursday - March 16th 2023 8:44AM MST
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Note: A post on the heat transfer from an ACTUAL greenhouse vs the "Greenhouse Effect", just for some closure on this one-measly-piece-of-the-climate excuse for the Climate Crisis™ and the disarming and alarming video by Dr. Sabine Hossenfelder is in the works. However, I want to do some real calculations (convection, conduction, and radiation), so it may be a while. As I wrote, I'm not being paid for this, so the deadline is the next round-to-it I get.

This post was inspired by the inclusion of a statement by (hopefully future President) Ron DeSantis on the Ukraine/Russia war by commenter E.H. Hail under this post, along with more commentary by Mr. Hail on the necocon feedback. I had not intended to continue the Trump v DeSantis series, but I figure we'd better give Donald Trump equal time, and this fits in. Those previous posts were Part 1 - Personalities - - Part 2 - Immunity to Kung Flu Panic - - Part 3 - Immigration Invasion and Part 4 - Tag Team?. None of them covered foreign policy, so this will help on that score.

For the DeSantis statement, I wanted to find a web source to link to, and, believe me, it took me the 2nd page of the duckduckgo search to get off of the Lyin' Press outlets that would be annoying and biased. Since the New York Post is as close to Peak Stupidity's "Newspaper of Record" status as any other big outlet, here is their article of 3 days ago by Victor Nava with Governor DeSantis' statement - it indeed matches Mr. Hail's post, but with interruptions by pictures and an ad or two. This was not from ON the Tucker Carlson show, but the NY Post article says:
The host of “Tucker Carlson Tonight” asked declared and potential candidates whether the US opposing Russia in Ukraine is a vital strategic interest for America; what the US objective in Ukraine is and how the US will know when it has been achieved; should there be a limit on weapons and money sent to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky; have US sanctions against Russia been effective; and does the US face the risk of nuclear war with Russia.
Here's Governor DeSantis Statement, titled Ron DeSantis says helping Ukraine fend off Russia not a vital US interest
“While the U.S. has many vital national interests -- securing our borders, addressing the crisis of readiness within our military, achieving energy security and independence, and checking the economic, cultural, and military power of the Chinese Communist Party -- becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them. The Biden administration’s virtual “blank check” funding of this conflict for “as long as it takes,” without any defined objectives or accountability, distracts from our country’s most pressing challenges.

Without question, peace should be the objective. The U.S. should not provide assistance that could require the deployment of American troops or enable Ukraine to engage in offensive operations beyond its borders. F-16s and long-range missiles should therefore be off the table. These moves would risk explicitly drawing the United States into the conflict and drawing us closer to a hot war between the world’s two largest nuclear powers. That risk is unacceptable.

A policy of “regime change” in Russia (no doubt popular among the DC foreign policy interventionists) would greatly increase the stakes of the conflict, making the use of nuclear weapons more likely. Such a policy would neither stop the death and destruction of the war, nor produce a pro-American, Madisonian constitutionalist in the Kremlin. History indicates that Putin’s successor, in this hypothetical, would likely be even more ruthless. The costs to achieve such a dubious outcome could become astronomical.

The Biden administration’s policies have driven Russia into a de facto alliance with China. Because China has not and will not abide by the embargo, Russia has increased its foreign revenues while China benefits from cheaper fuel. Coupled with his intentional depletion of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and support for the Left’s Green New Deal, Biden has further empowered Russia’s energy-dominated economy and Putin’s war machine at Americans’ expense.

Our citizens are also entitled to know how the billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars are being utilized in Ukraine.

We cannot prioritize intervention in an escalating foreign war over the defense of our own homeland, especially as tens of thousands of Americans are dying every year from narcotics smuggled across our open border and our weapons arsenals critical for our own security are rapidly being depleted."
Bravo! I don't think I have anything to add here beside just simply: US, GTFO!

Right, so this guy is "controlled opposition"*, a Deep State operative, or one with the Jewish lobby? I didn't think so before, and I sure don't now. As Mr. Hail notes, the usual ACTUAL opposition, the Neocons are plain freaking out. I'll paste in here a comment by Mr. Hail regarding the Neocon pundit David Frum:
David Frum, the neoconservative, has released an emergency editorial in The Atlantic today attacking DeSantis. ("Is Ron DeSantis Flaming Out Already?" by David Frum, The Atlantic, March 14, 2023.)

Frum says that Ron DeSantis' opposition to the Ukraine War is reckless, dangerous, stupid, callous, and signals that DeSantis is FINISHED as a politician on the national stage. Frum believes DeSantis is such a poor political strategist and of such weak character that he is "flaming out" before even taking off.

David Frum claims that he suspected DeSantis might have been a traitor to the cause of Holy Ukraine when he declined to greet the returning Florida National Guard members who had, for some reason, been in Ukraine in winter 2021-22. Frum said his suspicion grew when DeSantis refused to "praise" the Florida National Guard members who had been in Ukraine.

The suspicion that DeSantis is a traitor to the Ukraine Cause (and therefore--implied--a traitor to the USA), which had formed David Frum's mind in 2022, was confirmed yesterday with DeSantis' anti-war statement.

"DeSantis’s statement on Ukraine was everything that Russian President Vladimir Putin and his admirers could have wished for from a presumptive candidate for president," says neoconservative David Frum.
I had originally thought that "emergency editorial" was Atlantic or David Frum wording, but I like the idea. We should pull right off the side of the road, pull out our phones, and click that Atlantic link STAT! This is a Neocon Red Alert: Someone important cares about Americans more than Israel!

Yeah, I know, Ron DeSantis had some meeting in Jerusalem. He does have a mass of Jewish voter in southeast Florida, well, or "voters", anyway. Would they vote for him at all no matter whether he kowtows? Maybe he's figured out, "NOT", and maybe some of those voters will come around too at some point. They are not all followers of your David Frums, Jonah Goldbergs, Bill Kristols and the official political Neocon sellouts**.

Mr. Hail notes:
Bill Kristol, the neoconservative godfather figure, has been on a 48-hour rage spree against DeSantis for the latter's opposition to the Ukraine War. Kristol is said to be seeking ways to ensure DeSantis loses funding.
So far I'm very pleased to see the enemies that Ron DeSantis had been making.

Now, what's the word from The Donald? He responded to Tucker Carlson's request for a statement too, per Kent Masing of the Business Insider - Here's What Trump Has To Say About The Ukraine-Russia War. Because it's very hard to get anything resembling a "statement" out of Trump's mouth, I don't blame the site for inserting his answers piece by piece. Here's most of it:
"Both sides are weary and ready to make a deal. The meetings should start immediately, there is no time to spare. The death and destruction must end now!" Trump said, Fox News reported.

Trump, who is running for president for a third time, said the U.S.'s objective in the Ukraine war is to "help and secure Europe." However, the former president castigated Europe for not helping in the war.

Trump said the U.S.'s limit to providing assistance to Ukraine would "strongly depend" on his meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin while insisting that Europe "must pay."
There are no principles, like the idea of a Declaration of War being required, or George Washington's words of wisdom here. No, Trump is Mr. Wheeler-Dealer! He doesn't need no principles, political strategy and all that. He's gonna set them down and MAKE A DEAL! Oh, go screw yourself with all that, you egotistical bullshitter!
The former president also argued that the U.S.'s sanctions against Russia "have not been effective" in deterring them from attacking Ukraine.

Trump also believed the U.S. faces a high risk of a nuclear confrontation with Russia under President Joe Biden.

When asked if the U.S. should support ousting Putin from power, Trump said it is "more important" to support replacing Biden than supporting a regime change in Russia.

Trump's comments about the ongoing war in Ukraine echoed his previous remarks that he would have allowed Putin to control "certain areas" in the beleaguered country to avoid the conflict.

In his radio interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity, the former Republican president said he could have negotiated a deal with Russia and Ukraine while boasting that Russian forces did not occupy any region in Europe under his watch.
Admittedly, he guy makes good political points, comparing what's going on with what we SHOULD be doing. The comment about replacing Biden is one, but would he be just OK with that, were it Ron DeSantis replacing Zhou Bai Dien?
During his speech at this year's Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), Trump said he would solve the Russia-Ukraine war in one day, arguing that he knew what to say to Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Yes, he's just going to sit them down and work this all out. Bullshit works, apparently... only this is not an Amway meeting, that's the problem.

The clear difference seen here between these 2 men is not necessarily the specific answers to the questions from Tucker Carlson. The clear difference is that one man has a clear idea of the principles that decide this matter as written out in a statement, while the other says he's just the greatest dealer and talker around, so he'll just do all that stuff he's so good at and fix everything. The latter man can't even MAKE such statement, as his style of bullshitting doesn't cover "statements".

Winner by knockout here: Future President Ron DeSantis!

PS: Just out of completeness, I found that Fox News detailed the responses of not just Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis, but also Mike Pence and Kristi Noem to Mr. Carlson's questions, in the format of one question at a time. See Republican 2024 hopefuls respond to Tucker Carlson's questions about their stance on Russia-Ukraine war. The already traitorous (to the State of South Carolina) Neocon Nikki Haley's responses were added to this article too.

* I never really thought too much of this whole concept. The only people I think are the controlled opposition are those folks who continually comment negatively about anyone who fights, these commenters, bloggers, or pundits themselves being the closest thing to controlled opposition, IMO.

** Mr. Hail had more on the Neocon hive reaction (I mean, as in "the hives") in his comments:
The periodical "Jewish Insider" has sounded out the opinions of prominent persons who are condemning DeSantis for treason over Ukraine. This group of luminaries is led by Elliot Abrams, the neoconservative thought-leader. Also joining the chorus, per Jewish Insider, are Senators Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, Roger Wicker, John Cornyn, and Mitt Romney, and others. Rich Goldberg, a Republican bigwig, is said to donning warpaint as we speak to rally allies to the anti-DeSantis political warpath. Mike Pence, Chris Christie, and "Nikki" Haley have also now lashed out at DeSantis in similar terms. Also condemning DeSantis for treasonous disloyalty to Ukraine is Danielle Pletka. She is of the American Enterprise Institute and is the current Georgetown University chair of the Center for Jewish Civilization.
Try to remember these names the next time any one of them talks about "peace".

Saturday - March 18th 2023 5:59AM MST
PS: I, for one, appreciate your checking into, and giving a run-down of, the term "Big Mike". I was going by what Mr. Blanc wrote, but I've heard that term used by people who wonder about Michelle's, errr, real nature. (There's also this record of Barry referring to her as Michael, but I can't confirm and just simply don't wanna know.)

The Doobies had 2 drummers most of the time, John Hartman being the other. That trend was going on back then (1970s), such as with the Allman Brothers and The Dead. Because he played with another band for a while, "Big Mike" Hossack did not play on the "Stamped" album, one of my favorites.

No, I don't think we want the rapper Big Mike yet. We are only about equivalent to the 300 yr period of the 500 years to Idiocracy seen in the movie. (It's happening lots faster than Mike Judge could have foreseen - he should have picked 100 years, or even 50!)

As for the dinosaur, yes, as long as he identifies as a human, natural-born US Citizen, than I don't see why not. He'd probably do a hell of a job compared to what we've seen.

(See, people DO still respond to older comments, Mr. Hail. No, but I get your point, and I'll respond later on today to that. Thanks.)
Friday - March 17th 2023 7:27PM MST

-- in search of Big Mike --

I present some results of humble googling for "Big Mike":

The top result that GOogle shoves at the innocent searcher is a certain Big Mike whose CV contains the following highlights:

Rapper, New Orleans, born 1972. Affiliated with "Rap-a-Lot Records." Had several R&B billboard singles in the period 1994-1999. In the 1990s, collaborated with the "Geto Boys" (sic). Survived Hurricane Katrina. At last word, still living.

Allow me to guess that the Peak Stupidity commenter who wrote in this comment-thread under name "Love of Homeland" is NOT predicting Big Mike The Rapper will be next U.S. president, but at this point I suppose we cannot rule it out.

If a 1990s-era New Orleans rapper were elevated to the presidency, we would very fully have reached "President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho" level (Idiocracy).

But -- actually, Georgia "Republicants" nominating sub-literate sports guy Herschel Walker for U.S. Senate , andd that is not far off from Big Mike The Rapper.


A second result for "Big Mike" suggested by Google is a popular dinosaur skeleton. long beloved at the Museum of the Rockies. The fans of this skeleton and former living dinosaur began calling it "Big Mike" at some point in the misty past and it remained today. Stop by the Museum of the Rockies on your next trip and get the movement going: "Big Mike for President 2024!"


A third result for "Big Mike" claims the Doobie Brothers had a drummer who was called Big Mike. He is not eligible for the presidency as he is dead, and dead people holding office is quite a threshold to cross, even one bolder than Herschell Walker (sub-literate), Fetterman (still hospitalized as of this writing, claiming depression), and the once-successful rapper aforementioned.


Using a non-Google method, I see some Tik-Tok users have been using the "#BigMike" hashtag to refer to Michelle Obama, as the illustrious Moderator suggested.

Tik-Tok being too awful to pursue that any further, I suspend indefinitely further searching for Big Mike. Thanks for reading this summary of the Search for Big Mike.
Friday - March 17th 2023 7:07PM MST

RE: Ukraine Inc. video-series

It seems they are releasing one episode every week over the next few weeks/months. Episode 2 to be released March 19th.

When watching episode 1 (which is less than two minutes), I soon suspected the hand of Russia as a state or at the least pro-Russians behind the series.
Dieter Kief
Friday - March 17th 2023 9:55AM MST

All show no tell -
- great little animation vid about Ukraine/US
Friday - March 17th 2023 4:54AM MST
PS: ""DeSantis, he sounds like Neville Chamberlain!" (actual quote, from Chris Christie)." To think that I liked this guy back in the day - whenever it was, '05 to '10 or so. Yeah, he's a Conservative ... in New Freaking Jersey!

I agree completely with your 08:00 post especially, Mr. Hail.

Mr. Hail, from what I gather off of Mr. Blanc's reply, "Big Mike" is Michelle Obama. I never really tried hard to figure out whether she was a he, or he was a she, or whatever. I gotta say that Blompf's First Lady was greatly refreshing in comparison.
Thursday - March 16th 2023 8:54PM MST

Mr. Blanc says: "What (Ron DeSantis) does not do is tell the truth. That the US precipitated this war by trying to incorporate Ukraine into NATO and the EU."

In responsible changes of course in foreign policy, I don't a statement like that is an option. That kind of attack comes from people who know with certainty they will always be noisy oppositionists. With a more-restrained statement, the rest can be implied without the messiness of saying it directly: The art of diplomacy.

For executive branch internal policy meetings, that kind of thing can be said freely.
Thursday - March 16th 2023 8:45PM MST

Weimar Wheelbarrow wrote: "We are ruled by a hostile foreign elite."

in reply:

- Ron DeSantis as a member of the elite -

The elite has many layers. DeSantis himself has been within the elite, some layer or another of it, since age 18, when he rolled into Yale, circa August 1997. Up he went, to that hallowed New Haven campus, from Florida and obscurity. Previous to acceptance to Yale, no one would classify this sharp, serious, baseball-loving boy, Ron DeSantis as part of the national-scale elite. Nor would anyone else associated with him or in his family make the "elite" cut. Yale was his stepping-stone, his entry.

(See my biography of DeSantis focused on family-history and genealogy: "The ancestry of Ron DeSantis: son of Florida, grandson of industrial Ohio, great-grandson of Italy," Oct. 2021).

Here is a sobering fact: if Ron DeSantis were ten of fifteen years younger, there is a considerably lower chance that he'd have been taken in by Yale, all else held equal. The same Yale intakes of the late 2000s and early 2010s had proportionally fewer people like him, White-Christian-Heterosexual-Males, due to Diversity ideology (mandates) and certain other factors.

If Ron DeSantis were twenty or twenty-five years younger (college intakes of the late 2010s and early 2020s), he'd really quite likely have been excluded. He'd have been forced to attend a state school in Florida or the like. Yale doesn't want people like that now. 1980: Yale had circa 48% White Males 1997: Yale had circa 35% White Males
early 2020s: Yale has ca. 17% White Males

(...Numbers not precise because of presence of Unknown Race people, which I assume are mostly White trying to avoid D.E.I. hammers thrown at them; and Non-Residents, some of whom may also be White).


I am reminded here of one of those 1990s movies about airplane hijackings. Maybe it was the one called Con Air. It had a group of brutal criminals hijack Air Force One and take the president hostage. The character who was a good guy ends up embedded with the hijackers, and slowly begins to undermine their plan and save the day. This was a good guy wrongly sent to prison, who by fluke ends up in the prison system. The other good guys on the ground, scrambling to save the president, slowly figured it out: "Hey, somehow mixed in with the criminals on that plane is this ally, this other good guy; we don't know how it happened, but he's in there. Wow! We can use him." And the embedded good guy saves the day. Ron DeSantis is that good guy, it seems to me. He managed to sneak in, just before Big Diversity had done the job of crushing the pipeline through which he entered it (i.e., which allowed people like him, non-degenerate White-Christian-Males, a relatively fairer shot than they have today).
Thursday - March 16th 2023 8:19PM MST

The Alarmist wrote: "Mr. Trump’s statement about regime change in Russia was much more direct: “We should support regime change in the United States, that’s far more important.” This has caused more than a few libtard heads to explode

That is typical Trump. The reality-tv politician. All flash and no substance. All outrage and little action. Always short on details, always using slogans to rile people up. This is not leadership. I don't know what to call it. It's a species of entertainment.

Whatever good ideas he did (seem to) have were Kushnered off into a corner where they generally sat, dunce cap and all.
Thursday - March 16th 2023 8:15PM MST

Re: Adam Smith raising the specter of Daniel Uhlfelder

It seems that Uhlfelder has stopped actively tweeting. There are only two tweets in March 2023 so far. This is down from a rate of many per day in 2022.

Those two March 2023 tweets are:

- March 3: An allegation that DeathSantis is engineering a Florida state law that will force all political bloggers who operate from Florida soil to register, verify their identities, with the government.

- March 14: An attack over DeSantis' weak Ukraine position which is said to be a cut-'n'-run from Holy Ukraine (citing the New York Times).

- In February 2023, Uhlfelder has several tweets that claim DeSantis and his racist allies in Florida have been banning books about Black heroes, like baseball player Roberto Clemente and bus-boycotter Rosa Parks. He also seems to claim racist Florida DeSantis puppets have moved to ban a book praising Sonia Sotomayor (which appears to be part of a series called "Women Who Broke The Rules")...
Thursday - March 16th 2023 8:07PM MST

RE: Love of Homeland Trumps Quislings

"Big Mike is being groomed and that's all folks."

Big Mike = Mike Pompeo?

Surely Big Mike is not Mike Pence.

(And very surely it's not Mike Bloomberg, former 2020 candidate.)
Thursday - March 16th 2023 8:05PM MST

Adam Smith, thank for your replies on the PS-#2548, including your usual magic touch in securing the "Crouching Tiger" book by Peter Navarro, the Harvard-trained economist, White House advisor (2017-2021), and current target for incarceration by Merrick Garnfinkel and the Garfinkel Justice Department.
Thursday - March 16th 2023 8:00PM MST

I can think of no controversy since the laughable collapse of Afghanistan that has stirred up the so-called "Blob" (the Washington-centric "foreign-policy elite") quite like this. By "like this" I mean getting these people to turn their guns on a specific domestic U.S. target and getting wide traction with it (and not just a passing, Fox News talking-point to "rile up the bubbas" as James Carville once, approximately, said).

You recall Afghanistan, whose U.S.-installed president disappeared one day, laden-down with gold and cash, as the U.S.-equipped army handed over billions in U.S. provided equipment (the defense contractors got a little richer, and to quote Greta Thunberg, "how DARE you!" criticize the armament industry). But you may also recall how Afghanistan then faded from the news. Do you remember hearing even one story about it in 2023 so far?

Back in August and September 2021, the attacks over the Afghanistan debacle were never well-focused, never quite coherent or sustained, just an emotional steam-valve and then nothing. A grand-total of zero officials lost jobs or resigned over it (as would happen in almost any other democratic country in the world, with near-certainty in parliamentary systems but even in non-parliamentary systems would be expected).

I revisit the Afghanistan debacle here because I think this anti-DeSantis eruption, while smaller in scale, is just as enraging (or more) to the foreign-policy elite.

The politicos like Chris Christie and this awful "Nikki" Haley reflect the foreign-policy elite's views. They don't do thinking of their own. But they are disciplined and on-message.

Blompf is kind of the opposite. He does thinking of his own (arguably, of a sort; especially if we classify instinct and quasi-narcissistic rambling as thinking). But Blompf is not disciplined, so what is the worth of even reading his statement? In the words of J Derbyshir (quoting the blogger Z-Man), Blompf is and remains "a very lucky bullshitter."
Thursday - March 16th 2023 7:49PM MST

The intensity of the anti-DeSantis attacks after the release of his statement surprised me.

Here is another one: Chris Christie yesterday put down his stack of donuts to make the following charming, drive-by addition to the DeSantis--Ukraine foreign-policy imbroglio:

"DeSantis, he sounds like Neville Chamberlain!" (actual quote, from Chris Christie).
Adam Smith
Thursday - March 16th 2023 7:08PM MST
PS: "I see he was up a the villages again doling out the vaccine while the common people have to get up at five am to play vaccine roulette."

Yeah, that tweet is kinda confusing.
Next tweet down, by the same tweeter (Doxiemom)...

"Looks like the villages has struck gold again they’re getting a permanent vaccine drive through."

with a link to this...

(Or, if you'd like to read the 9 comments under the article...)

There is no date on the article, but I'm going to guess February 1, 2021. (From the URL)

Still not sure what Doxiemom is trying to say though.(?)

Thursday - March 16th 2023 6:41PM MST
PS: Thanks for the explanation link, Mr. Smith. Regarding your 2nd point, Uhl, No! Not the grim reaper again. I am curious about this one comment (or tweet-back?) under the tweet in question:

"I see he was up a the villages again doling out the vaccine while the common people have to get up at five am to play vaccine roulette." Who is the commenter referring to with "he" as he replies to the Grim Reaper, do you think? It doesn't make so much sense. I am guessing this commenter is pro-DeSantis, but that's the problem with tweets - for me, they are confusing as hell.

Yep, we just went I don't know how many more hundreds of Billions of $$ (maybe into the Trillions) into the hole, yet the Ukraine is important? Who ARE these guys?! (Yeah, we know.)
Adam Smith
Thursday - March 16th 2023 6:29PM MST
PS: Good evening, gentlemen,

"I don't get the reference about the High School girls..."
I didn't either Mr. Moderator...

Kinda off topic...

Strange that the jews are hell bent on war with Russia.
Strange that they would make "support for ukraine" some sort of issue in the up coming (s)election.

Thursday - March 16th 2023 4:37PM MST
PS: LoHTQ: I don't get the context of your O/T part. I get flyers for free meals often, as they try to sell financial plans, etc. (Went to one - wasn't planning on buying anything and didn't, but the food wasn't that great either ... Give me unlimited NY style pepperoni pizza, and we'll talk. I still ain't buying squat.)

Alarmist, sure I like that line too. It's all just for his audience. Of course, we all believe that. Are we going to see another 4 years of mostly BS though? I want to see lefties heads explode due to actions, not words.

Thursday - March 16th 2023 4:32PM MST
PS: From Mr. Blanc: "So, Mr DeSantis is triangulating here. We, of course, support Ukraine. But not too much. Don’t give them any weapons that they can use beyond their borders. Hope for peace as soon as possible. Okay, that’s what electoral politicians do, and that’s not a bad attempt."

My take is that his belief in Federalism has him answering Tucker's question in terms of what HE, DeSantis only, can or will do. He's got to know the start of this thing, as he was Congressman for 2 5/6 terms, from '13 through Sept. '18 (when he resigned to focus on the Governor race).

Unfortunately, though one can find quite a bit about his voting record here:

most of the bills are too encompassing to see how he voted on the American-supported Ukraine uprising, money-wise that was going on in '14 and later. (I gather this was all non-voted-for State Dept. and Deep State shenanigans, with no input from most of Congress.)

No, he didn't say the whole truth, but then, this was a survey. (Ha, when I took one, in 45 minutes, I was only able to get in one answer to a solid question. The rest of them were too stupid. Tucker is not Gallup polling though.)

Yes, I agree that it's getting harder and harder for a White normal guy to get elected, even WITHOUT any cheating going on.
Thursday - March 16th 2023 4:21PM MST
PS: Weimar Wheelbarrow, I agree with your take. Perhaps we are both getting fooled by Gov.DeSantis. I'm not completely gullible though. I don't see why a Deep State stooge or closet Neocon would go this far, enough to be scolded by not just the pundits, Frum et al., but also the politicians that get involved in the campaigns, on one side or another. (I suppose the Romney's and Traitor Nikki's would be against Trump or DeSantis, probably personally voting Blue-squad in a hissy fit if either were the GOP nominee.)

Yes, Donald Trump comes across as VERY petty. It's one thing to nail DeSantis on his actions on the issues, and vice versa. I would like to see that, as perhaps Americans would get interested enough to learn more about the existential immigration invasion. Numbers matter, but I don't think most people know how bad it has become.

As for the jab, Trump's ego had and has him extolling it simply because he's so damn proud of his expedited "moon shot" project to get this untested experimental shit out there. Shit or not, it was fast, right? "And, I helped!"

I don't get the reference abpit the High School girls. Could you explain or paste in a link?

Thanks for the comment.
Thursday - March 16th 2023 3:08PM MST
PS LoHT: Yeah, I’ve heard that. But I’ve got to say that I don’t think there’s anything in it. The probability of Mooch giving up swanning around from mansion to mansion for real work in the DC fish tank almost certainly approaches zero.
The Alarmist
Thursday - March 16th 2023 1:27PM MST

Mr. Trump’s statement about regime change in Russia was much more direct:

“We should support regime change in the United States, that’s far more important,”

This has caused more than a few libtard heads to explode, saying that Trump is inciting violent overthrow of the Biden regime.

In the words of Big Stick Teddy R, Bully for the Donald.
Love of Homeland Trumps Quislings
Thursday - March 16th 2023 1:15PM MST
PS @ M Blanc, Big Mike is being groomed and that's all folks.

O/T-Just how gone is it?
A senior in the family received a letter from a major national healthcare provider to meet up at the local Mexican buffet at the end of the month and go over the plan.
It isn't a fake or a prank.
Thursday - March 16th 2023 11:48AM MST
PS So, Mr DeSantis is triangulating here. We, of course, support Ukraine. But not too much. Don’t give them any weapons that they can use beyond their borders. Hope for peace as soon as possible. Okay, that’s what electoral politicians do, and that’s not a bad attempt. If what you’re trying to do is p*ss off as few people as possible. What he does not do is tell the truth. That the US precipitated this war by trying to incorporate Ukraine into NATO and the EU. As it did some years back with Georgia, and precipitated a war there. Would Mr DeSantis be a better president than Mr Trump? Beats me. Mr Trump had his shot, and muffed it pretty badly. Mr DeSantis hasn’t been in the hot seat yet, so what he might do is a matter of speculation. It’s probably a pointless question, because it’s unlikely that either of them will become president, given the status of the Great Replacement.
Weimar Wheelbarrow
Thursday - March 16th 2023 11:00AM MST
PS Someone caring about America won't be allowed.
DeSantis would want America to win in any war but we are ruled by a hostile foreign elite.
The fetid putrid imperial swamp of corruption coming out and openly favoring the blue and yellow over the red, white and blue is obvious to those with two brain cells and a synapse.
All the jokes and memes about fly the Ukraine flag and you will get some disaster relief or at least a visit from Petey Butt to lecture on the racism of construction workers and inanimate objects are funny and sad at the same time.
We do not have manufacturing anymore and this is how wars of attrition are won.
These hostile elite are looking to humiliate FUSA so someone like DeSantis won't be allowed.
As for Trump and his "big beautiful" depopulation shot, he can get back to making money and putting his names on places people to like to visit...if the Uniparty will let him.
Snarky comments and trying to stir up crap about DeSantis makes Trump look petty and small.
One example is the photo of DeSantis with the smiling HS girls from years ago, that was the weaksauce and the comment from Ron about please just stop was well played.
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