Posted On: Wednesday - December 14th 2022 8:21AM MST
In Topics: US Police State Liberty/Libertarianism Orwellian Stupidity
My good friend who died young right before the start of the PanicFest used to call these the Illuminati IDs. The State - not our State, but THE STATE, now the Potomac Regime, calls them "REAL IDs". Along with the other Police State programs put in place soon after 9/11/01, most visibly the new cabinet Department with the appropriate Totalitarianism-style name Department of Motherland Security (or something), the REAL ID Act was passed in '05.
See, the Social Security numbers that the scumbag Socialist Franklin Roosevelt told Americans would NEVER, no NEVER in a million years, be used as some kind of national ID were no longer good enough for the Feral Police State. American States have had their own different rules for the issuance of driver's licenses, which have become de facto ID cards over the years. Yet, not all the information was consolidated well with the Police State.*
The American Police State wants to be sure who we all are, exactly, I mean, unless we are illegal aliens... Hence, the REAL ID law mandated the various States to issue Feral Gov't compliant forms of driver's licenses containing the appropriate information on us. They want lots of documents from us to link together behind these cards. Maybe at this point, it's just an interim step until they can convince us, forcibly or otherwise, to all get chips implanted. Back in '05, it was less technologically and less politically feasible. (The B-1 Bomber back in the day - late 1970s - was to be an interim step until the stealth technology for the B-2, could be developed. In this case the idea is to get rid of any possible stealth in the population.)
Back to my late friend, I am having a hard time remembering for sure why he was forced to get his Illuminati ID. I don't think his getting it was just due to his driver's license being due for renewal, though that's what I'm worried about. The US Gov't is first - because I don't think that's going to be the whole of it - enforcing the Illuminati IDs for air travel using its Motherland Security's TSA as an enforcement arm.
The original deadline imposed on the States for compliance by their residents was sometime in '08. That didn't take. I don't know all the details of other delays., as it was always one of these things that disgusted me as a Libertarian, but I do know it was advertised as October 1, 2020 for quite a while. I ignored that bullshit. Then, well, Kung Flu, bitchez! The deadline was to be a year later. Then, that didn't take, and Motherland Security moved it to 'October of '23**, which is unfortunately no longer far in the future.
Well, thankfully, that's not agonna happen either. The ABC news site said this back in April '21:
With less than six months*** left until that deadline, the country is far from meeting the new standards, as only 43% of the U.S.-issued driver’s licenses are REAL ID-compliant, according to DHS data.Politico said a week back (yeah, I know, some really winners today, link-wise, but just for numbers):
According to the U.S. Travel Association, an estimated 83 million Americans, roughly 34 percent, are still without an enhanced form of ID that would be accepted to travel, which includes a U.S. passport or passport card, U.S. military ID, or DHS trusted traveler cards.Lots of Americans have passports and/or military ID's, and those frequent fliers have the last thing mentioned, getting them ahead in those TSA cattle pens. I don't feel like looking up all these numbers, and there is lots of overlap. Let's' just say then, that there the number of Americans marked with Illuminati IDs is well under that 56% (100% - 34%) even now. I like that.
The articles I read chalked up the low "compliance" or "REAL ID saturation" numbers to plain old procrastination or slackness by State governments. Yeah, I'm not so sure of that. My friend and I may be outliers, but I hope that the big reluctance to obtain Illuminati driver's licenses is due to more than simple procrastination. Maybe there ARE a good number of Americans who see the evil in this Government tracking of us. Along with that, I hope any slackness in implementing the plans of these Illuminati-wanna-be's is also due to some real resistance to Feral power and control. (I couldn't find anything on Florida's Governor DeSantis regarding this issue.) From the comments section under one of the articles comes this complaint from a true believer:
Good on the Conservative Minnesota lawmakers, and fuck you, Paaron!
Paaron senpai71
12/05/22 10:14pm
I’m in MN. The conservative lawmakers here are treating real ID as the mark of the beast and have been dragging their feet.
In a very recent other ABC news article, the general excuse for this latest 2-year extension is:
The DHS again blamed the delay on COVID-19, saying the process was "significantly hindered" by state driver's license agencies having to work through a backlog during the pandemic.Yea!! I'm starting to like this Kung Flu thing, just a little bit. Is it possible some private lab could do Gain-of-Function research on a designer virus that only infects governments? Peak Stupidity would crowdfund the living out of something like that.
PS: To make this clear, it's the mandating of these things for regular DL renewal or their use elsewhere that I'm worried about personally. I have a PP, so I don't need one for airline travel. This affects the domestic occasional travelers the most, and they are the ones the travel industry is worried about and extending the deadline for.
* They've done pretty damn well themselves connecting up when it comes to keeping track of traffic tickets over the last 3 decades, I can tell you ... personally! Back 30 years ago, I paid for one ticket - 66 mph in a 55 mph zone out of Globe, Arizona - with a money order with a smart-ass comment on it, "you should have searched the door panels" - but, this did not make it to my home State's attempt at a database. Nowadays, you're not likely to get away with that.
It's about money, so the States take it seriously. That money is the direct money from the ever-increasing fines, but just as importantly, more money collected by insurance companies for us "bad drivers".
Comments:
Kylie
Friday - December 16th 2022 10:27PM MST
PS I see this as just one aspect of federal government tracking. This,the push toward a cashless society and hi-tech surveillance are all of a piece.
I've always believed that unless a person is suspected of being a criminal, a spy or a terrorist, he should be able to live life in relative anonymity. Certainly the feds shouldn't be tracking him. I was so naive. I now realize that keeping the herd under surveillance and under control is more important to the federal government than tracking a few wayward individuals.
I've always believed that unless a person is suspected of being a criminal, a spy or a terrorist, he should be able to live life in relative anonymity. Certainly the feds shouldn't be tracking him. I was so naive. I now realize that keeping the herd under surveillance and under control is more important to the federal government than tracking a few wayward individuals.
Thursday - December 15th 2022 8:31PM MST
PS
“ Alarmist, I do switch the letters out in my name when doing business on-line with Big Biz (for the CC you usually have to use the right one, but not the "name" field elsewhere). ”
My CC uses “Al” and middle initial, far from a full legal name. I still get unsolicited mail from a long ago “free” subscription to PC magazine… they misspelled the last name by one letter, so I know where it’s from..over 25 years, and the mailing list is still being circulated… SMH… I’ll probably be dead 30 years before they stop sending me crap.
“ Alarmist, I do switch the letters out in my name when doing business on-line with Big Biz (for the CC you usually have to use the right one, but not the "name" field elsewhere). ”
My CC uses “Al” and middle initial, far from a full legal name. I still get unsolicited mail from a long ago “free” subscription to PC magazine… they misspelled the last name by one letter, so I know where it’s from..over 25 years, and the mailing list is still being circulated… SMH… I’ll probably be dead 30 years before they stop sending me crap.
Adam Smith
Thursday - December 15th 2022 3:12PM MST
PS: Lol...
"Yet another example of i b4 e except after c being utter bulls*it..."
Mild dyslexia is fun sometimes. ☮
"Yet another example of i b4 e except after c being utter bulls*it..."
Mild dyslexia is fun sometimes. ☮
SafeNow
Thursday - December 15th 2022 2:33PM MST
PS
A telling personal anecdote about drivers-license agencies here in it-happens-here-first California. It was renew-in-person time for me. I entered the room where one takes the “knowledge” test. A large sign on the outer wall admonished that no one can enter with the test-taker. At the
computer next to me, the test-taker was being assisted by a hovering, imperious test mentor (in loud, distracting Spanish). The so-called monitors were about 15 feet away. (And it’s not like the test questions are that difficult… at a railroad crossing, who has the right of way, you, or the train.)
A telling personal anecdote about drivers-license agencies here in it-happens-here-first California. It was renew-in-person time for me. I entered the room where one takes the “knowledge” test. A large sign on the outer wall admonished that no one can enter with the test-taker. At the
computer next to me, the test-taker was being assisted by a hovering, imperious test mentor (in loud, distracting Spanish). The so-called monitors were about 15 feet away. (And it’s not like the test questions are that difficult… at a railroad crossing, who has the right of way, you, or the train.)
Adam Smith
Thursday - December 15th 2022 12:23PM MST
PS: Good afternoon, Mr. Blanc,
It's not weird that they would want a ss card for a so called "driver's license", as driving is regulated occupation for hire. It is weird that they force this upon people (through trickery, deceit* and blunt force when necessary) who were not covered by the original statutes. Free people do not ask their servants for permission to travel.
https://www.ilsos.gov/departments/drivers/TVDL/home.html
https://www.nyc.gov/site/immigrants/help/city-services/drivers-licenses-for-all.page
At what point does an automobile become a "motor vehicle"?
(Check out the definition of "motor vehicle"...)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/31
*Yet another example of i b4 e except after c being utter bulls*it.
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It's not weird that they would want a ss card for a so called "driver's license", as driving is regulated occupation for hire. It is weird that they force this upon people (through trickery, deceit* and blunt force when necessary) who were not covered by the original statutes. Free people do not ask their servants for permission to travel.
https://www.ilsos.gov/departments/drivers/TVDL/home.html
https://www.nyc.gov/site/immigrants/help/city-services/drivers-licenses-for-all.page
At what point does an automobile become a "motor vehicle"?
(Check out the definition of "motor vehicle"...)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/31
*Yet another example of i b4 e except after c being utter bulls*it.
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MBlanc46
Thursday - December 15th 2022 11:38AM MST
PS Mme B attempted to get one of those DLs. She was told that she had the wrong Social Security card. It was the only SS card that she had or had ever had. No wonder they’re having trouble.
Adam Smith
Thursday - December 15th 2022 9:22AM MST
PS: Good morning, Mr. Moderator,
"BTW, the freaking IRS sends junk mail now!.."
In a few years, when you are old enough for Medicare, you will get these in the mail each year...
https://www.medicare.gov/Pubs/pdf/10050-medicare-and-you.pdf
I guess their junk mail budget is part of the "jobs for Americans!" program. (or something?)
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"BTW, the freaking IRS sends junk mail now!.."
In a few years, when you are old enough for Medicare, you will get these in the mail each year...
https://www.medicare.gov/Pubs/pdf/10050-medicare-and-you.pdf
I guess their junk mail budget is part of the "jobs for Americans!" program. (or something?)
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Moderator
Wednesday - December 14th 2022 9:04PM MST
PS: Alarmist and Adam Smith, it was a different country then... well, for Adam it still is - great location!
If I were to relate all my cops pulling me over stories, I might want to go ahead an get a URL just for that. I'm waiting, not so impatiently, for some cop to pull me over in the one vehicle whose speedometer hasn't worked in 5 years. The needle is there, but ... "Do you know how fast you were going?" "No, Sir, and I don't know how I'm supposed to know. Right now, the needle says 85. That CAN'T be right."
Alarmist, I do switch the letters out in my name when doing business on-line with Big Biz (for the CC you usually have to use the right one, but not the "name" field elsewhere). When I see the name wrong on a piece of mail, for instance, I know it's not anything important.
BTW, the freaking IRS sends junk mail now! That's even more than when the bank does it (which I'm now wise to). You've got this bad feeling that this thing is going to say I owe $20,000 dollars, and then you open it to some deal about a government health plan. Obamacare, I guess??
If I were to relate all my cops pulling me over stories, I might want to go ahead an get a URL just for that. I'm waiting, not so impatiently, for some cop to pull me over in the one vehicle whose speedometer hasn't worked in 5 years. The needle is there, but ... "Do you know how fast you were going?" "No, Sir, and I don't know how I'm supposed to know. Right now, the needle says 85. That CAN'T be right."
Alarmist, I do switch the letters out in my name when doing business on-line with Big Biz (for the CC you usually have to use the right one, but not the "name" field elsewhere). When I see the name wrong on a piece of mail, for instance, I know it's not anything important.
BTW, the freaking IRS sends junk mail now! That's even more than when the bank does it (which I'm now wise to). You've got this bad feeling that this thing is going to say I owe $20,000 dollars, and then you open it to some deal about a government health plan. Obamacare, I guess??
Adam Smith
Wednesday - December 14th 2022 8:04PM MST
PS: Good evening, everyone,
The last time A cop asked me for a driver's license I asked...
"Why on Earth would I want one of those?" (Good times!)
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The last time A cop asked me for a driver's license I asked...
"Why on Earth would I want one of those?" (Good times!)
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The Alarmist
Wednesday - December 14th 2022 5:59PM MST
PS
Like many pre-2001 Americans, I often was imprecise in the name I used on various documents. This does not sit well with European governments, who were well down the path to identifying their subjects by precise legal names on everything. Anyway, one day my local tax department sent me a letter with ten variations of my name that I had used over the years, asking which was correct. Heads exploded when I replied that all were used by me and they’d have to deal with it, because it would be too cumbersome to “correct” the history. I’m sure Uncle Sugar is struggling with a few tens of millions in a similar situation. It will work itself out as we free-wheeling folks from an easier-going time die out, but I hope the world misses having Chips, Skips, and Buffys walking among us as if that was our real names.
Like many pre-2001 Americans, I often was imprecise in the name I used on various documents. This does not sit well with European governments, who were well down the path to identifying their subjects by precise legal names on everything. Anyway, one day my local tax department sent me a letter with ten variations of my name that I had used over the years, asking which was correct. Heads exploded when I replied that all were used by me and they’d have to deal with it, because it would be too cumbersome to “correct” the history. I’m sure Uncle Sugar is struggling with a few tens of millions in a similar situation. It will work itself out as we free-wheeling folks from an easier-going time die out, but I hope the world misses having Chips, Skips, and Buffys walking among us as if that was our real names.
Moderator
Wednesday - December 14th 2022 9:53AM MST
PS: "The sheep herd wanted to be overgrown children and now they will be treated that way." That's about the size of it. Yes, BWC, Orwell's 1984 marches on. I would like to opt out.
Bleatings Will Continue
Wednesday - December 14th 2022 8:59AM MST
PS Red State put up the cameras on utility poles and the vibrant part of town has the Shot Spotter hardware.
We already have the ID with a watermark on the license, I put a thick piece of credit card shaped metal next to mine in the wallet.
The sheep herd wanted to be overgrown children and now they will be treated that way.
It's a shame that we will all have to pay but how bout that demockracy, comrade.
We already have the ID with a watermark on the license, I put a thick piece of credit card shaped metal next to mine in the wallet.
The sheep herd wanted to be overgrown children and now they will be treated that way.
It's a shame that we will all have to pay but how bout that demockracy, comrade.
Yep. I think the implementation of the Federal Income Tax over a century ago was the beginning of this. It gave the Feds an excuse to know where everyone works.
Still, this is one area in which I am very glad we are way behind China.
Thanks for writing in, Kylie! See the post below, if you haven't.