Posted On: Tuesday - September 27th 2022 5:14PM MST
In Topics:   Elections '16 - '24  Immigration Stupidity  Trump
From earlier, see Part 1 - Personalities and Part 2 - Immunity to Kung Flu Panic.)
This is the BIG, the EXISTENTIAL* issue, the Immigration Invasion. Whoever in the match-up would do a better job on this issue as President is who I'd want to win a theoretical election**. Both of these men have a record on fighting this battle, in different ways, of course, at Federal vs. State level.
Unless DeSantis is a complete liar, both of these men would be, and have been, better on this issue than any other big political figure who'd have a chance. The loser of this round would still beat all hell out of anyone else prominent on this issue (again, politicians with a chance, not real Americans like me or Peter Brimelow). That said, Peak Stupidity has been extremely disappointed in the results from President Trump of '17-'21, who had had so many Americans' hopes up for a few years. We've written quite a bit on this topic, and for me there's no way to be sure how much of the failure has been due to incompetence and how much due to the tremendous forces that were arrayed against President Trump.
This may sound like a continuation of a good news / bad news joke, but I will now remember, from our post President Donald Trump: the Bad, **the Good**, and the Ugly***, that President Trump did seriously bring the immigration numbers down. I was pretty excited about this when writing that post just before the election in '20. (Humorously, VDare's "Washington Watcher II", writer of the post I discussed, was thrilled by the NY Times unintentional endorsement of the President on this issue.)
There were many under-the-radar moves that Trump made, both with legal programs and illegal entries of various sorts and various people. I was excited because it's the numbers that matter, and the first thing you do when in a deep hole is STOP DIGGING.
The problem is that Trump brought the digging down to a significantly lower rate, but he didn't lock up the excavators. Most of his moves were done at the bureaucratic levels in the agencies involved. I don't recall so much legislation being passed - no, he can't do it, but the idea was to get support and get it done. He made those deals with the Central American leaders to stop the caravans,, but, again, they were just deals of Trump's, not anything permanent. This would all have been fine, a great start at least, were Trump President-for-Life AND immortal. Neither is the case.
There's no "big beautiful wall". The winner of the '20 cheat-fest rolled back former-President Trump's policy changes one by one, early on. The numbers since then have already more than overwhelmed the number of immigrants that Trump prevented from coming. And they keep coming, and coming, and ...
Candidate Trump's immigration policy was very good. He read Ann Coulter's book. His feelings and his love for this country had him on the right track. However, that was Candidate Trump, running his mouth about all it all. When it came down to getting significant things done in any permanent fashion, President Trump let us down.
What about Florida Governor, and prospective GOP Presidential candidate DeSantis? Could he be the same or worse, a liar who is just pandering to get the Conservative votes? That's possible. Could he have beengrandstanding with the most excellent Martha's Vinyard caper, as I 've read commenters maintain? Nah. Nobody who wants to stay in good with the UniParty elites and Globalists who run things would do something like this. There are ways of kissing their asses and getting exposure. This would not be the way.
Because he doesn't have such a long record of speech and action on the immigration invasion, I don't have so much else to write about DeSantis on the issue. However, VDare writer James Fulford helpfully transcribed a speech of his to the National Conservative Conference mid-September - FL Governor Ron DeSantis Addresses Mass LEGAL Immigration: “Just The Sheer Number Of People Overwhelms Communities” Please read that quick post which speaks for itself about DeSantis views. No, I don't think he's lying his ass off.
Both Trump and DeSantis realize that the immigration invasion is a bad thing. They both understand the Americans want it stopped. The question is, who would do a better job at actually stopping it? From the records, the personalities, and the intelligence levels of the two men, I'd have to go with DeSantis again.
* That post is from very early on in the life of this blog. The title is: Too many posts about immigration, you say? - GIT! OFF! MY!
** I write that because Trump may be embroiled in or distracted with suit or even be a political prisoner, and I haven't read for sure that Governor DeSantis will campaign for the office.
*** Yes, it's the 2nd of a 3-part series with The Bad and The Ugly. (The latter was about Zhou Bai Dien, though, not President Trump.)