Posted On: Tuesday - February 1st 2022 10:37AM MST
In Topics:   Immigration Stupidity  Music  Race/Genetics
(No, "Enoch Powell and the Wogs" WOULD be a good name for the band, but it's not.)
This post is not really a continuation of the previous one about musician Eric Clapton, but it is a discussion of the second topic involving Mr. Clapton and politics from that VDare Carl Horowitz article "Is This A Sovereign Nation / Or Just A Police State?" Eric Clapton, COVID, And Immigration. The two discussions, about Mr Clapton's opinionated commentary from 4 decades apart are intermixed by Mr. Horowitz, but this second topic is in VDare's wheelhouse, out-of-control, unwanted mass immigration. (Out of the people's control that is!)
I'll put this caveat near the top here this time: Eric Clapton is just a musician. I wish it didn't come down to people getting their politics from entertainers rather than, I dunno, Ron Paul's Liberty Report. (Hey, it's entertaining too but it's no Layla or Blues Power.) That's the way it is, and this second discussion by Carl Horowitz is really something, anyway.
We're going back to 1976 here, 45 1/2 years back, when Eric Clapton had already been a big star already for10 years or so. This was a month after the American Bicentennial, if that rings a (liberty) bell for you. The show in question was at The Odeon in Birmingham, England. Horowitz's article notes that, like your average white band* during that era, Eric Clapton drank a lot of booze then and did cocaine. I'll discuss that "excuse" in a bit, but during a break in playing, he started a monologue to the audience which included this:
Listen to me, man! I think we should vote for Enoch Powell. Enoch’s our man. I think Enoch’s right, I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the wogs out. Get the coons out. Keep Britain white. I used to be into dope, now I’m into racism. It’s much heavier, man. F*cking wogs, man. F*cking Saudis taking over London. Bastard wogs. Britain is becoming overcrowded and Enoch will stop it and send them all back.Firstly, now I can guess more accurately what a "wog" is. Secondly, Enoch Powell was a scholarly, true-Conservative British Minister of Parliament for 37 years (1950 - 1987), famous at VDare and elsewhere for his "Rivers of Blood" speech in April of 1968. He was the British version of, well, maybe NOBODY America had, warning of this existential threat to his country.
Eric Clapton agreed. Were I transported back into the audience that night at the Odeon (the WHAT?), my current political bent would have me hooting and hollering "you said it, man!" However, I have sympathy for the bloke who paid his 5 quid for the show** who just wanted to hear the music, at that point hopefully some of the older best blues stuff alone with his "newer" music from There's One in Every Crowd and No Reason to Cry*** "Shut up and Sing!" Sure, OK, fair enough.
Because it was a conservative rant, not a leftist rant, the repercussions for Mr. Clapton were a lot bigger. I won't go over all the details from the article except to say that the "Rock Against Racism" group that resulted and persisted for 6 years after must have been mostly a British thing.
It reads as though Mr. Clapton didn't give any overt apology, at least for many years.
In a 2004 interview with the British music magazine Uncut, he termed Powell “outrageously brave,” adding that the UK was “inviting people in as cheap labor and then putting them in ghettos”Any excuse could easily include "I was drunk off my ass, so you know..." I would say things are in reality quite the opposite. Often the truth only comes out, or CAN only come out, when the potential truth-teller is drunk, not necessarily off his ass completely either.****
By the year 1976, it was brave of Eric Clapton to try to tell some racial truths to the people of formerly-Great formerly-Britain. How did he get his views, as an Englishman in a still almost-all-white country in 1976? I'm guessing it's from some time spent and experiences gained in America and from his American musical friends.
One was of his musical friends was Jimi Hendrix - I doubt he was the example Mr. Clapton had in mind. Another was Duane Allman who was, in fact, in an integrated band, during the time in the South when private schools were forming to get away from that. Still, you can get the truth out of all races of people though. That's especially the case when there ARE drugs and alcohol involved.
PS: One more point is in order. Commenter "UsNThem" on an iSteve comment thread brought up the question of Mr. Clapton's having made his whole, early, at least, career from the blues music originating from blacks in America. That's true, as with most of the British bands, and plenty of American, in those years. Carl Horowitz addresses this. I will too, real quickly here.
You know, in the whole continent of Africa, all of which makes a bit of civilization was appropriated from the White man, 2-story housing, electrical tools, hand tools, plumbing, law & order, medicine, [database error, text field exceeded!], OK, OK, I've already embedded that "What have the Romans done for us?" video before.... Yet, they may go on all the anti-White-people rants they want anyway, over in Africa, and I have no problem with that!
OK were these 2 posts just an excuse to feature some great music by Eric Clapton, as Peak Stupidity has been remiss about? Partially.
I suppose Lay Down, Sally from the Slowhand album has some indirect blues influence. It sounds a lot like the style of J.J. Cale in his They Call me the Breeze, made famous (OK, to ME, at least) by Lynyrd Skynyrd.
Tulsa Time is Eric Clapton's rock version of a true country song, written by and sung first by Don Williams - my second favorite country singer*****.
Finally, I will put this ballad down, though knowing the pain that Eric Clapton must have suffered from the tragic death of his 4 y/o makes me cry, honestly. Oh well...
* No, I'm not sure about the drug habits of the Average White Band itself. This is the generic average white band and average black or integrated band too, hell, everyone!
** a) I'm trying to stick to British terminology here. b) I think a quid is a pound - yes, thank you, wiki. c) I will write a post coming about the inflation in concert ticket prices soon. Even for the apples to oranges (then to now, and assuming you like apples better) comparison of smaller venues and better artists back then, without using hedonics, these prices have risen exorbitantly!
*** There's really not many hits that I remember from those 2 albums, but that's what the musicians did then, go on tour to popularize their new stuff .(That'll be part of the discussion the post coming per note **(c).)
**** There was a running Seinfeld gag is which the other characters would give Elaine some alcohol to get the story out. Peppermint Schnapps, I think it was, that did the trick.
***** No, that was just a funny line by Jerry Reed from Smokey and the Bandit Part 2(?)
Comments:
The Alarmist
Friday - February 4th 2022 9:20AM MST
PS
I beg to differ, Dieter. When I look at primary data sources, like the UK ONS weekly registrations of deaths, I see a distinct uptick in all-cause mortality that is not attributed to COVID... anywhere from 12% to 20% over the average numbers of deaths in corresponding weeks in the period from 2015 to 2019. Almost every week, i.e. a consistent trend. From July forward, there are many weeks where death registrations exceed those of 2020, when vaxxes were still not available. Not every week, but enough to signal a trend.
While some of the increase in deaths during 2021 might be attributable to deaths of despair or deaths due to delayed/denied medical treatment, it would be difficult to find that a vaxx that delivers a cytotoxic protein that latches onto endothelial cells in the circulatory system and has already been shown to cause clotting (all of the vaxxes do) and impairment of the heart muscle (again, all the vaxxes have done this) is not contributing to the uptick in deaths.
BTW, myocarditis kills over a period of time, not immediately. The thing to consider is that it is a one-way street. Once the heart is damaged by myocarditis, it never repairs itself, and the outcome is a product of both the initial damage and the lifestyle of the victim as time goes on.
Aspiration might mitigate some of the risk, but not all. If you have cells generating multiple copies of the spike protein, some of that is going to find its into the circulatory system and start doing damage over time.
Anyone who tries to pooh-pooh the risk of the COVID vaxxes given the data that is out there is either willfully blind, blindly optimistic, doesn’t really entertain alternative hypotheses, stupid, or criminal.
H0: COVID vaxxes are safe
Observation: Tens of thousands of deaths occurring within 14 days of vaxx administration in the official databases of the US, UK, and EU.
Analysis: Some can be explained by the natural course of the victim’s life and are coincidental, but many involve causes of death consistent with hypothesized adverse events one might expect from the primary mechanism of action incorporated in the vax.
H0 is false.
If they bothered to do autopsies on a meaningful sample of vaxx-coincident deaths, the vaxxes would have to be stopped immediately. As for more people dropping from heart attacks and strokes over time, that will be chalked up to our bad ways of life. Since they aren’t doing as many autopsies as they used to, nobody will be able to properly source the cause of increasing deaths.
I’m short life insurers, and I’m taking bets on institutions who think this marvelous technology will give them greater longevity risk that they think is very cheap to hedge at the moment. The longevity swaps I’ve written the past couple years started to pay almost immediately, and it’s only getting better. Same with investments in funeral services lately. Death is definitely a growth business.
Bet you won’t see that often on substack.
I beg to differ, Dieter. When I look at primary data sources, like the UK ONS weekly registrations of deaths, I see a distinct uptick in all-cause mortality that is not attributed to COVID... anywhere from 12% to 20% over the average numbers of deaths in corresponding weeks in the period from 2015 to 2019. Almost every week, i.e. a consistent trend. From July forward, there are many weeks where death registrations exceed those of 2020, when vaxxes were still not available. Not every week, but enough to signal a trend.
While some of the increase in deaths during 2021 might be attributable to deaths of despair or deaths due to delayed/denied medical treatment, it would be difficult to find that a vaxx that delivers a cytotoxic protein that latches onto endothelial cells in the circulatory system and has already been shown to cause clotting (all of the vaxxes do) and impairment of the heart muscle (again, all the vaxxes have done this) is not contributing to the uptick in deaths.
BTW, myocarditis kills over a period of time, not immediately. The thing to consider is that it is a one-way street. Once the heart is damaged by myocarditis, it never repairs itself, and the outcome is a product of both the initial damage and the lifestyle of the victim as time goes on.
Aspiration might mitigate some of the risk, but not all. If you have cells generating multiple copies of the spike protein, some of that is going to find its into the circulatory system and start doing damage over time.
Anyone who tries to pooh-pooh the risk of the COVID vaxxes given the data that is out there is either willfully blind, blindly optimistic, doesn’t really entertain alternative hypotheses, stupid, or criminal.
H0: COVID vaxxes are safe
Observation: Tens of thousands of deaths occurring within 14 days of vaxx administration in the official databases of the US, UK, and EU.
Analysis: Some can be explained by the natural course of the victim’s life and are coincidental, but many involve causes of death consistent with hypothesized adverse events one might expect from the primary mechanism of action incorporated in the vax.
H0 is false.
If they bothered to do autopsies on a meaningful sample of vaxx-coincident deaths, the vaxxes would have to be stopped immediately. As for more people dropping from heart attacks and strokes over time, that will be chalked up to our bad ways of life. Since they aren’t doing as many autopsies as they used to, nobody will be able to properly source the cause of increasing deaths.
I’m short life insurers, and I’m taking bets on institutions who think this marvelous technology will give them greater longevity risk that they think is very cheap to hedge at the moment. The longevity swaps I’ve written the past couple years started to pay almost immediately, and it’s only getting better. Same with investments in funeral services lately. Death is definitely a growth business.
Bet you won’t see that often on substack.
Dieter Kief
Thursday - February 3rd 2022 3:56PM MST
PS
Alarmist -
As of now - spurious.
One systemic mistake the panickers make is that they look at excess deaths numbers on a wekly basis (or a biweekly or ome other rather short basis).
But that is the nature of excess death stats: That they are uneven and that implies: Short time uptakes are meaningless.
Norway and Denmark differ noticably with regard to myocarditis cases - but not with regard to myocarditis deaths. As I've said before, Danish docotrs do aspire before giving the jab, the Norwegians don't aspire. And the myocarditis numbers in Norway are a whopping three times the numbers of Denmark. - But - no noticable difference in deaths from myocarditis. - So - not nothing. But far away from the panic scenarios that are being painted by the no-vaxx crowd.
So far. These things can change, of course. But for now, Orwell2024's findings are the solid rock I build my theses on and he did not find any vaccine relatd excess death numbers that should be worrisome.
Note that Fentons and el gato malo's numbers must not necessarily be understood as contradicting Orwell2024's obesity post.
Alarmist -
As of now - spurious.
One systemic mistake the panickers make is that they look at excess deaths numbers on a wekly basis (or a biweekly or ome other rather short basis).
But that is the nature of excess death stats: That they are uneven and that implies: Short time uptakes are meaningless.
Norway and Denmark differ noticably with regard to myocarditis cases - but not with regard to myocarditis deaths. As I've said before, Danish docotrs do aspire before giving the jab, the Norwegians don't aspire. And the myocarditis numbers in Norway are a whopping three times the numbers of Denmark. - But - no noticable difference in deaths from myocarditis. - So - not nothing. But far away from the panic scenarios that are being painted by the no-vaxx crowd.
So far. These things can change, of course. But for now, Orwell2024's findings are the solid rock I build my theses on and he did not find any vaccine relatd excess death numbers that should be worrisome.
Note that Fentons and el gato malo's numbers must not necessarily be understood as contradicting Orwell2024's obesity post.
Moderator
Thursday - February 3rd 2022 11:47AM MST
PS: Dieter, thanks for the links and your take on this. I meant to write you under the previous post, but I appreciate those 8 poll numbers that you showed us. That might require a blog post, because it's interesting which of these important opinions about the state of America is seen as changing quickly - the economy. Most people don't notice so much the just as important government control and the rest.
Adam, I meant to add, I did click on the first of those mask apparati. Holy crap. Just stay home and live in a plastic bubble.
Adam, I meant to add, I did click on the first of those mask apparati. Holy crap. Just stay home and live in a plastic bubble.
Moderator
Thursday - February 3rd 2022 11:42AM MST
PS: A belated thanks to Adam Smith for the comprehensive etymology lesson on the word "wog". Also, I haven't been to his site, but I enjoyed that comment under "The Bad Cat"'s post that you pasted for us. See, here's the thing: If these SCROTUS folks would still be making decisions based on the US Constitution, rather than politics, there wouldn't be so many numbers.
"Math is hard." "I was led to believe there would be no math during the confirmation process." Innumerate crap like that reminds me of the long-ago hilarious claim by a couple of news people based on their not being able to notice a 6 ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE mistake:
"The 2020 Media, with an Incredible Way of Putting It"
https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=1365
(This post happens to be just before PS covered the PanicFest as a part-time job.)
"Math is hard." "I was led to believe there would be no math during the confirmation process." Innumerate crap like that reminds me of the long-ago hilarious claim by a couple of news people based on their not being able to notice a 6 ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE mistake:
"The 2020 Media, with an Incredible Way of Putting It"
https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=1365
(This post happens to be just before PS covered the PanicFest as a part-time job.)
The Alarmist
Thursday - February 3rd 2022 10:44AM MST
PS
Thanks, Dieter, but the question that needs to be considered is whether or not the correlation of recent increases of age-adjusted all-cause mortality to the vaxx rollout is evidence of a causal relationship or just a spurious relationship.
Thanks, Dieter, but the question that needs to be considered is whether or not the correlation of recent increases of age-adjusted all-cause mortality to the vaxx rollout is evidence of a causal relationship or just a spurious relationship.
Dieter Kief
Thursday - February 3rd 2022 6:19AM MST
PS
For those about to Rock (= Adam and - The Alarmist and ?): Professor Norman Fenton salutes you from the data storing facilities of: The Office of National Statistcs (ONS) in the UK. After investigating this mine for months, he presented his team's latest Covid-vaccination findings and came to the following conclusion (- that in his mind need not be definitve as of yet) - : - there might follow more and/ or different things about this subject in the future...
But this is what Professor Fenton and his team say for now:
"Absent any better explanation, Occam's razor would support our conclusions. In any event, the ONS*** data provide no reliable evidence that the vaccines would reduce all cause mortality."*****
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357778435_Official_mortality_data_for_England_suggest_systematic_miscategorisation_of_vaccine_status_and_uncertain_effectiveness_of_Covid-19_vaccination
(Adam - I've also posted a freedom-highway memo under the Clapton post below).
****This finding does fit in well with what I've posted down below from science-blogger Orwell2024 and from el gato malo and from the Norwegians especially.
For those about to Rock (= Adam and - The Alarmist and ?): Professor Norman Fenton salutes you from the data storing facilities of: The Office of National Statistcs (ONS) in the UK. After investigating this mine for months, he presented his team's latest Covid-vaccination findings and came to the following conclusion (- that in his mind need not be definitve as of yet) - : - there might follow more and/ or different things about this subject in the future...
But this is what Professor Fenton and his team say for now:
"Absent any better explanation, Occam's razor would support our conclusions. In any event, the ONS*** data provide no reliable evidence that the vaccines would reduce all cause mortality."*****
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357778435_Official_mortality_data_for_England_suggest_systematic_miscategorisation_of_vaccine_status_and_uncertain_effectiveness_of_Covid-19_vaccination
(Adam - I've also posted a freedom-highway memo under the Clapton post below).
****This finding does fit in well with what I've posted down below from science-blogger Orwell2024 and from el gato malo and from the Norwegians especially.
Dieter Kief
Thursday - February 3rd 2022 1:16AM MST
PS
Thx Adam!I knew the Adam Kirsch stuff - and some of Alex Berenson's stuff too. Their quite capable opponents are Andreas Backhaus and Steve Stewart Williams (amongst others). Kirsch did make the Berenson mistake, how I call that now, which means to not understand that if you vaccinate those highly at risk first, you'll dead sure get higher hospitalization numbers amongst the vaccinated than amongst the unvaccinated.
You can rock this vaccine stats boat from both sides, so to speak.
The best method I have come across so far to avoid BOTH ways of rocking the boat is to look at stats that are valid and - not perfectly well compatible with the radical anti-vaxxers like Berenson who did get stuck dead in the stats swamp surrounding the vaccines.Now: my favorite amongst those opposing the vaccine panic is Orwell2024 - who by and large is on board with Michael Levitt and who found that : No, no overwhelming damage done by the vaccine - and no deaths avoided by them either. -
https://orwell2024.substack.com/p/age-adjusted-all-cause-mortality?r=zp558&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
But - maybe obesity/bad health is the big driver behind most of what did go wrong during the Covid-crisis.
That's also what the Norwegians found, by looking at their own clinical data which seem - like the Danish ones - to be very good (reliable and valid).And they concluded their study by saying that the vaccines did reduce the number of days in hospital for those vaccinated significantly. But they did not prevent people from dying.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.05.21265958v1
Here is a quote:
"We included 2,361 patients, including 70 (3%) partially vaccinated and 183 (8%) fully vaccinated. Fully vaccinated patients 18–79 years had a shorter LoS in hospital overall (adjusted hazard ratio for discharge: 1.35, 95%CI: 1.07–1.72), and lower odds of ICU admission (adjusted odds ratio: 0.57, 95%CI: 0.33–0.96). Similar estimates were observed when collectively analysing partially and fully vaccinated patients. We observed no difference in the LoS for patients not admitted to ICU, nor odds of in-hospital death between vaccinated and unvaccinated patients."
"Conclusions: Vaccinated patients hospitalised with COVID-19 in Norway have a shorter LoS and lower odds of ICU admission than unvaccinated patients. These findings can support patient management and ongoing capacity planning in hospitals."
Thx Adam!I knew the Adam Kirsch stuff - and some of Alex Berenson's stuff too. Their quite capable opponents are Andreas Backhaus and Steve Stewart Williams (amongst others). Kirsch did make the Berenson mistake, how I call that now, which means to not understand that if you vaccinate those highly at risk first, you'll dead sure get higher hospitalization numbers amongst the vaccinated than amongst the unvaccinated.
You can rock this vaccine stats boat from both sides, so to speak.
The best method I have come across so far to avoid BOTH ways of rocking the boat is to look at stats that are valid and - not perfectly well compatible with the radical anti-vaxxers like Berenson who did get stuck dead in the stats swamp surrounding the vaccines.Now: my favorite amongst those opposing the vaccine panic is Orwell2024 - who by and large is on board with Michael Levitt and who found that : No, no overwhelming damage done by the vaccine - and no deaths avoided by them either. -
https://orwell2024.substack.com/p/age-adjusted-all-cause-mortality?r=zp558&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
But - maybe obesity/bad health is the big driver behind most of what did go wrong during the Covid-crisis.
That's also what the Norwegians found, by looking at their own clinical data which seem - like the Danish ones - to be very good (reliable and valid).And they concluded their study by saying that the vaccines did reduce the number of days in hospital for those vaccinated significantly. But they did not prevent people from dying.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.05.21265958v1
Here is a quote:
"We included 2,361 patients, including 70 (3%) partially vaccinated and 183 (8%) fully vaccinated. Fully vaccinated patients 18–79 years had a shorter LoS in hospital overall (adjusted hazard ratio for discharge: 1.35, 95%CI: 1.07–1.72), and lower odds of ICU admission (adjusted odds ratio: 0.57, 95%CI: 0.33–0.96). Similar estimates were observed when collectively analysing partially and fully vaccinated patients. We observed no difference in the LoS for patients not admitted to ICU, nor odds of in-hospital death between vaccinated and unvaccinated patients."
"Conclusions: Vaccinated patients hospitalised with COVID-19 in Norway have a shorter LoS and lower odds of ICU admission than unvaccinated patients. These findings can support patient management and ongoing capacity planning in hospitals."
Adam Smith
Wednesday - February 2nd 2022 11:19PM MST
PS: Good evening, Dieter,
Thanks for the link to el gato malo's interesting blog post.
“ending the vaccine trials so early and eliminating the control groups by vaccinating them was a massive mistake (or a deliberate dodge). that was our one shot at any real long term understanding and it’s long gone.”
Some of that (and other datacrime) was touched upon here...
https://rumble.com/embed/voaxg5/?pub=4
https://tinyurl.com/mpm8f3ny
*************
From the comments under el gato malo's article:
Imagine trying to prove malfeasance in court against drug companies and regulators in order to hold them accountable. Just think carefully about the mental faculties, knowledge, and reasoning ability demonstrated by the Supreme Court justices regarding covid and the OSHA mandate.
-Expert Witness gato: "by counting a 2 week period against the previous group, you always produce a false efficacy rating, especially if that 2 week period is a unique window of vulnerability."
- Sotomayor: "Are you saying the vaccines don't work? Don't you know a 100,000 children are dying every second?"
-Breyer: "Indeed, over 800 billion Americans have caught covid this month alone."
And from the author:
"When in the history of medicine have people who have not taken a therapy been blamed for the failure of the therapy in those that did?"
see, now what's fun about this question, is that if you replace the word "medicine" with the word "religion" the answer is "pretty much always" and the whole set of outcomes here suddenly makes sense.
juss sayin'...
*************
Have you you noticed these?...
https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/end-covax.pdf
https://www.skirsch.com/covid/GermanAnalysis.pdf
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v3.full.pdf
Perhaps el gato malo's datacrime hypothesis helps explain some of the negative efficacy found by Hansen et al.?
https://i.ibb.co/xHqf5Y5/negative-efficacy.png
Perhaps there really is negative efficacy after 90 days?
Check out these awesome new masks...
https://www.air-ring.com/
https://www.ao-air.com/
https://leafmask.com/
(I really like the first one.)(/sarc)
Thanks again...
Have a great day, Dieter!
☮
Thanks for the link to el gato malo's interesting blog post.
“ending the vaccine trials so early and eliminating the control groups by vaccinating them was a massive mistake (or a deliberate dodge). that was our one shot at any real long term understanding and it’s long gone.”
Some of that (and other datacrime) was touched upon here...
https://rumble.com/embed/voaxg5/?pub=4
https://tinyurl.com/mpm8f3ny
*************
From the comments under el gato malo's article:
Imagine trying to prove malfeasance in court against drug companies and regulators in order to hold them accountable. Just think carefully about the mental faculties, knowledge, and reasoning ability demonstrated by the Supreme Court justices regarding covid and the OSHA mandate.
-Expert Witness gato: "by counting a 2 week period against the previous group, you always produce a false efficacy rating, especially if that 2 week period is a unique window of vulnerability."
- Sotomayor: "Are you saying the vaccines don't work? Don't you know a 100,000 children are dying every second?"
-Breyer: "Indeed, over 800 billion Americans have caught covid this month alone."
And from the author:
"When in the history of medicine have people who have not taken a therapy been blamed for the failure of the therapy in those that did?"
see, now what's fun about this question, is that if you replace the word "medicine" with the word "religion" the answer is "pretty much always" and the whole set of outcomes here suddenly makes sense.
juss sayin'...
*************
Have you you noticed these?...
https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/end-covax.pdf
https://www.skirsch.com/covid/GermanAnalysis.pdf
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v3.full.pdf
Perhaps el gato malo's datacrime hypothesis helps explain some of the negative efficacy found by Hansen et al.?
https://i.ibb.co/xHqf5Y5/negative-efficacy.png
Perhaps there really is negative efficacy after 90 days?
Check out these awesome new masks...
https://www.air-ring.com/
https://www.ao-air.com/
https://leafmask.com/
(I really like the first one.)(/sarc)
Thanks again...
Have a great day, Dieter!
☮
Adam Smith
Wednesday - February 2nd 2022 10:51PM MST
PS: Good evening,
You're welcome, Mr. Alarmist, Mr. Blanc...
And thank you Mr. Blanc for pointing me in the right direction...
I also found these links which have much of the same info, and a few more details...
https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/11432842
https://etymology.en-academic.com/37901/wog
I hope you guys have a great evening...
(or day, as the case might be...)
☮
You're welcome, Mr. Alarmist, Mr. Blanc...
And thank you Mr. Blanc for pointing me in the right direction...
I also found these links which have much of the same info, and a few more details...
https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/11432842
https://etymology.en-academic.com/37901/wog
I hope you guys have a great evening...
(or day, as the case might be...)
☮
Trotsky's Icepick
Wednesday - February 2nd 2022 10:00PM MST
PS “Russian Bolshevism and Italian fascism are kindred phenomena, they are signs of an epoch. They hate each other like brothers. They are both messengers of ‘Caesarism’, which sounds somewhere in the distance in the nebulous ‘music of the future’.”
Nikolai Ustrialov, Pod znakom revolutsii (1927)
Nikolai Ustrialov, Pod znakom revolutsii (1927)
Joe Biden
Wednesday - February 2nd 2022 7:47PM MST
PS: Antifa is an idea, not an organization...
http://www.antifa.com/
http://www.antifa.com/
MBlanc46
Wednesday - February 2nd 2022 2:05PM MST
PS Thanks for that, AS.
Poofters and Drongos
Wednesday - February 2nd 2022 9:28AM MST
PS "Yanks are the most boring atrocious peasants the world has ever seen, almost as bad as Brits."
Art H from the EPIC Fvck France
Art H from the EPIC Fvck France
The Alarmist
Wednesday - February 2nd 2022 8:23AM MST
PS
Thank you Mr. Smith, for that comprehensive review that will only see the light of day on the normie internet here in these pages, though it may live on on the dark web.
@Corrupt, I always loved the line, “Why don’t you put it on the toast.” Would it be correct to assume that that one didn’t survive into the recent release of Get Back?
@Dieter, I’ll have to take a look at that, but the original legerdemain was in the initial trials, when they let the volunteers go into the wild to risk catching the virus without controlling for the possibility of real differences in individual exposures between the trial and control groups. At the end of the period, the trial group had more deaths than the control group, but that was “assumed away” in the calculation of 95% efficacy ... why should we be surprised that the wizardry continues? Vaccination Über Alles.
Thank you Mr. Smith, for that comprehensive review that will only see the light of day on the normie internet here in these pages, though it may live on on the dark web.
@Corrupt, I always loved the line, “Why don’t you put it on the toast.” Would it be correct to assume that that one didn’t survive into the recent release of Get Back?
@Dieter, I’ll have to take a look at that, but the original legerdemain was in the initial trials, when they let the volunteers go into the wild to risk catching the virus without controlling for the possibility of real differences in individual exposures between the trial and control groups. At the end of the period, the trial group had more deaths than the control group, but that was “assumed away” in the calculation of 95% efficacy ... why should we be surprised that the wizardry continues? Vaccination Über Alles.
Dieter Kief
Wednesday - February 2nd 2022 8:13AM MST
PS
So - the Fins and the Danes and the Brits end all Covid restrictions in 2022.
Btw.:This is a tough one seen from the political angle: In GB its the conservatives, in danemark the Scocial Democrats and in Fnland the Gren Prts, that heads the government.
So - the Fins and the Danes and the Brits end all Covid restrictions in 2022.
Btw.:This is a tough one seen from the political angle: In GB its the conservatives, in danemark the Scocial Democrats and in Fnland the Gren Prts, that heads the government.
Dieter Kief
Wednesday - February 2nd 2022 5:14AM MST
PS
Is there somebody who has the stats-skills and the time (ca. 30 min.) to look into this paper here about statistical problems with vaccine-effectiveness?
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/bayesian-datacrime-defining-vaccine
I've seen an argument like this made before by Prof. Norman Fenton or some such learned head - which makes it even more interesting.
Is there somebody who has the stats-skills and the time (ca. 30 min.) to look into this paper here about statistical problems with vaccine-effectiveness?
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/bayesian-datacrime-defining-vaccine
I've seen an argument like this made before by Prof. Norman Fenton or some such learned head - which makes it even more interesting.
Corrupt
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 9:01PM MST
PS
Alarmist, reminds me of the lads doing get off/white power
https://youtu.be/SrDOwhTIPrQ
Alarmist, reminds me of the lads doing get off/white power
https://youtu.be/SrDOwhTIPrQ
Adam Smith
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 6:32PM MST
PS: This last Dictionary had the most information, but the book itself is not laid out as nice as the others...
https://3lib.net/book/1175447/f77aff
A Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English : Colloquialisms and Catch Phrases, Fossilised Jokes and Puns, General Nicknames, Vulgarisms, and Such Americanisms As Have Been Naturalised 8Th Ed.
By: Eric Partridge and Paul Beale
wog (or W.)
A lower-class babu shipping-clerk: nautical: late C.19–20. (Bowen.) Soon, any Indian, Pakistani, etc. from the Indian Subcontinent; an Arab; ‘A native. Someone once called enlightened natives “Westernised Oriental gentlemen” and the name caught on’ (Jackson), via the initials: RAF: since ca. 1930. But Gerald Emanuel goes nearer the mark, I think, when (1945) he asks, ‘Surely the derivation is from “golliwog”?’—with ref. to the frizzy or curly hair; wog, indeed, is a nursery shortening of golliwog. See also white wogs
wog gut
(Acute) diarrhoea: Aus. army: mostly 1940–2. ( Rats, 1944.) Also Palestine ache . Ex their training period in Palestine. See prec. 1, 4.
wog music
In the late [19]40s and early 50s “Wog music” was the common term for the Middle-East strains often picked up on the radio... Obviously it came from returned soldiers; it was not used offensively; and it seems to have been dropped when the immigrants started arriving.’ Robert Barltrop is writing (1981, to P.B.) of London; but the term was more widespread and, in the Services, still current until at least ca. 1975. See wog, 1.
woggery
An Arab village: army and RAF: since ca. 1930. (P-G-R.) P.B.: used of the ‘native quarter’ of Port Said, during the invasion of Egypt by Anglo-French forces, late 1956.
wogs begin at Calais
The c.p. that epitomises all that is worst in English parochial, xenophobic insularity: since ca. 1950 (?earlier). See wog, 1. I.e. ‘anything outside little old England is full of nasty foreigners’; and the phrase has variants, for the ever more parochially-minded: wogs begin at Offa’s Dyke (see white wogs, 2);... West of Pompey;... North of Cockfosters (for Londoners);... at the Waveney (Rev. Paul Kybird, a Norfolkman); etc. (P.B.
white wogs
Brit. and Continental European residents in Near and Middle East countries: army and RAF; since ca. 1930. See wog, 1.—2. A derogatory term, usu. joc., for a Welshman: Services’: since ca. 1950. Ex prec.; cf. wogs begin at Calais.
golliwog*
A caterpillar: Aus.: since ca. 1920. (B., 1942.) In ref. to the numerous very hairy caterpillars found in Aus. and ex their resemblance to a golliwog doll.—2. A ‘fence’ or receiver of stolen goods: low (verging on c.): since ca. 1930. golliwogs (or gollywogs)
Golly
For the average Tommy, black or white, any local, be he Arab, Indian, or Somali, is a “Golly”—a marginally less insulting retread of the old-fashioned “Wog”’ (John de St Jorre, ‘The End of the Affair’ in the Observer sup., 11 June 1967): since ca. 1950. See wog, 1, and cf.:—2. A Negro: low raffish London: since ca. 1960. Both short for golliwog, thick black crinkly hair and all, and perhaps ex golly!, common—or once common—among Negroes. Brian Fairborn, Good Luck, Mister Cain, 1976.—3. A tall person: schoolboys’, not very gen.: C.20. Prob. ex Goliath.—4.See v.
Palestine ache
Severe diarrhoea: see wog gut.
*This entry seems wrong to me. Everyone knows what a golliwig is...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golliwog
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https://3lib.net/book/1175447/f77aff
A Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English : Colloquialisms and Catch Phrases, Fossilised Jokes and Puns, General Nicknames, Vulgarisms, and Such Americanisms As Have Been Naturalised 8Th Ed.
By: Eric Partridge and Paul Beale
wog (or W.)
A lower-class babu shipping-clerk: nautical: late C.19–20. (Bowen.) Soon, any Indian, Pakistani, etc. from the Indian Subcontinent; an Arab; ‘A native. Someone once called enlightened natives “Westernised Oriental gentlemen” and the name caught on’ (Jackson), via the initials: RAF: since ca. 1930. But Gerald Emanuel goes nearer the mark, I think, when (1945) he asks, ‘Surely the derivation is from “golliwog”?’—with ref. to the frizzy or curly hair; wog, indeed, is a nursery shortening of golliwog. See also white wogs
wog gut
(Acute) diarrhoea: Aus. army: mostly 1940–2. ( Rats, 1944.) Also Palestine ache . Ex their training period in Palestine. See prec. 1, 4.
wog music
In the late [19]40s and early 50s “Wog music” was the common term for the Middle-East strains often picked up on the radio... Obviously it came from returned soldiers; it was not used offensively; and it seems to have been dropped when the immigrants started arriving.’ Robert Barltrop is writing (1981, to P.B.) of London; but the term was more widespread and, in the Services, still current until at least ca. 1975. See wog, 1.
woggery
An Arab village: army and RAF: since ca. 1930. (P-G-R.) P.B.: used of the ‘native quarter’ of Port Said, during the invasion of Egypt by Anglo-French forces, late 1956.
wogs begin at Calais
The c.p. that epitomises all that is worst in English parochial, xenophobic insularity: since ca. 1950 (?earlier). See wog, 1. I.e. ‘anything outside little old England is full of nasty foreigners’; and the phrase has variants, for the ever more parochially-minded: wogs begin at Offa’s Dyke (see white wogs, 2);... West of Pompey;... North of Cockfosters (for Londoners);... at the Waveney (Rev. Paul Kybird, a Norfolkman); etc. (P.B.
white wogs
Brit. and Continental European residents in Near and Middle East countries: army and RAF; since ca. 1930. See wog, 1.—2. A derogatory term, usu. joc., for a Welshman: Services’: since ca. 1950. Ex prec.; cf. wogs begin at Calais.
golliwog*
A caterpillar: Aus.: since ca. 1920. (B., 1942.) In ref. to the numerous very hairy caterpillars found in Aus. and ex their resemblance to a golliwog doll.—2. A ‘fence’ or receiver of stolen goods: low (verging on c.): since ca. 1930. golliwogs (or gollywogs)
Golly
For the average Tommy, black or white, any local, be he Arab, Indian, or Somali, is a “Golly”—a marginally less insulting retread of the old-fashioned “Wog”’ (John de St Jorre, ‘The End of the Affair’ in the Observer sup., 11 June 1967): since ca. 1950. See wog, 1, and cf.:—2. A Negro: low raffish London: since ca. 1960. Both short for golliwog, thick black crinkly hair and all, and perhaps ex golly!, common—or once common—among Negroes. Brian Fairborn, Good Luck, Mister Cain, 1976.—3. A tall person: schoolboys’, not very gen.: C.20. Prob. ex Goliath.—4.See v.
Palestine ache
Severe diarrhoea: see wog gut.
*This entry seems wrong to me. Everyone knows what a golliwig is...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golliwog
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Adam Smith
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 6:18PM MST
PS: Almost done...
https://u1lib.org/book/616546/a26e46
The Concise New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English
Tom Dalzell (Senior Editor)
Terry Victor (Editor)
chocolate frog noun
a person of Mediterranean or Middle Eastern background. Rhyming slang for WOG. Offensive AUSTRALIA , 1971 .
(And some other such rhyming slang.)
white wog noun
a Welsh person. Usually jocular, from WOG (any person of non-white ethnicity) and a recognition of the Welsh as a race apart within the British Isles; it is, perhaps, interesting to note that a Welsh accent attempted by an English person has a pronounced tendency to sound Indian UK, 1984
wog noun
1 any person of non-white ethnicity; a native of the Indian subcontinent; an Arab; any (non-British) foreigner, as in ‘the wogs begin at Calais’. Derogatory, patronising. Derives possibly from an abbreviation of ‘golliwog’ (a caricature, black-faced, curly-haired doll) but the widest usage is in reference to Asians and not black people. Popular, unproven etymology has ‘wog’ as an acronym of ‘Western(ised) [or] Wily Oriental Gentleman’ UK , 1929 . 2 any language that isn’t English AUSTRALIA , 1988 . 3 a germ that causes an illness AUSTRALIA , 1941
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https://u1lib.org/book/616546/a26e46
The Concise New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English
Tom Dalzell (Senior Editor)
Terry Victor (Editor)
chocolate frog noun
a person of Mediterranean or Middle Eastern background. Rhyming slang for WOG. Offensive AUSTRALIA , 1971 .
(And some other such rhyming slang.)
white wog noun
a Welsh person. Usually jocular, from WOG (any person of non-white ethnicity) and a recognition of the Welsh as a race apart within the British Isles; it is, perhaps, interesting to note that a Welsh accent attempted by an English person has a pronounced tendency to sound Indian UK, 1984
wog noun
1 any person of non-white ethnicity; a native of the Indian subcontinent; an Arab; any (non-British) foreigner, as in ‘the wogs begin at Calais’. Derogatory, patronising. Derives possibly from an abbreviation of ‘golliwog’ (a caricature, black-faced, curly-haired doll) but the widest usage is in reference to Asians and not black people. Popular, unproven etymology has ‘wog’ as an acronym of ‘Western(ised) [or] Wily Oriental Gentleman’ UK , 1929 . 2 any language that isn’t English AUSTRALIA , 1988 . 3 a germ that causes an illness AUSTRALIA , 1941
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Adam Smith
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 6:13PM MST
PS: Me again...
https://u1lib.org/book/5298892/1228d6
The New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English Volume I-II: A–Z
Second Edition Edited by Tom Dalzell and Terry Victor
white wog noun
a Welsh person UK, 1984 Usually jocular, from WOG (any person of non-white ethnicity) and a recognition of the Welsh as a race apart within the British Isles; it is, perhaps, interesting to note that a Welsh accent attempted by an English person has a pronounced ten-dency to sound Indian.
Wog noun
1 any person of non-white ethnicity; a native of the Indian subcontinent; an Arab; any (non-British) foreigner, as in “the wogs begin at Calais” UK, 1929 Derogatory, patronising. Derives possibly from an abbreviation of “golliwog” (a caricature, black-faced, curly-haired doll) but the widest usage is in reference to Asians and not black people. Popular, unproven etymology has “wog” as an acronym of “Western(ised) [or] Wily Oriental Gentleman”.
☮
https://u1lib.org/book/5298892/1228d6
The New Partridge Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English Volume I-II: A–Z
Second Edition Edited by Tom Dalzell and Terry Victor
white wog noun
a Welsh person UK, 1984 Usually jocular, from WOG (any person of non-white ethnicity) and a recognition of the Welsh as a race apart within the British Isles; it is, perhaps, interesting to note that a Welsh accent attempted by an English person has a pronounced ten-dency to sound Indian.
Wog noun
1 any person of non-white ethnicity; a native of the Indian subcontinent; an Arab; any (non-British) foreigner, as in “the wogs begin at Calais” UK, 1929 Derogatory, patronising. Derives possibly from an abbreviation of “golliwog” (a caricature, black-faced, curly-haired doll) but the widest usage is in reference to Asians and not black people. Popular, unproven etymology has “wog” as an acronym of “Western(ised) [or] Wily Oriental Gentleman”.
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Adam Smith
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 6:11PM MST
PS: So I botched one of the links in my previous comment...
The first link should (will?) get you to a page with several different versions of the same books...
https://tinyurl.com/2p8495u3
https://u1lib.org/book/3592914/02c128
The Routledge Dictionary of Modern American Slang and Unconventional English
Second edition
Edited by Tom Dalzell
☮
The first link should (will?) get you to a page with several different versions of the same books...
https://tinyurl.com/2p8495u3
https://u1lib.org/book/3592914/02c128
The Routledge Dictionary of Modern American Slang and Unconventional English
Second edition
Edited by Tom Dalzell
☮
Adam Smith
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 6:02PM MST
PS: Good evening gentlemen,
I looked up wog in some various different Dictionaries of Slang and Unconventional English.
The list is getting a little long, so I will post the links to the books and the definitions I found in a few different comments.
These two similar dictionaries contained the same definition...
https://tinyurl.com/yckp6rku
The Routledge Dictionary of Modern American Slang and Unconventional English
Edited by: Tom Dalzell
https://u1lib.org/dl/3592914/59ebbf
The Routledge Dictionary of Modern American Slang and Unconventional English
Second edition
Edited by Tom Dalzell
wog noun
any person of nonwhite ethnicity; a native of the Indian subcontinent; an Arab; any (non-British) foreigner, as in “the wogs begin at Calais” UK, 1929 Popular, unproven etymology has “wog” as an acronym of “Western(ised) [or] Wily Oriental Gentleman.”
• Do you know what I’m going to do to those wogs? — Richard Farina, Been Down So Long, p. 164, 1966
☮
I looked up wog in some various different Dictionaries of Slang and Unconventional English.
The list is getting a little long, so I will post the links to the books and the definitions I found in a few different comments.
These two similar dictionaries contained the same definition...
https://tinyurl.com/yckp6rku
The Routledge Dictionary of Modern American Slang and Unconventional English
Edited by: Tom Dalzell
https://u1lib.org/dl/3592914/59ebbf
The Routledge Dictionary of Modern American Slang and Unconventional English
Second edition
Edited by Tom Dalzell
wog noun
any person of nonwhite ethnicity; a native of the Indian subcontinent; an Arab; any (non-British) foreigner, as in “the wogs begin at Calais” UK, 1929 Popular, unproven etymology has “wog” as an acronym of “Western(ised) [or] Wily Oriental Gentleman.”
• Do you know what I’m going to do to those wogs? — Richard Farina, Been Down So Long, p. 164, 1966
☮
MBlanc46
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 5:49PM MST
PS I’ll try to remember to check Partridge when I get back to the land of snow and ice. Unless someone beats me to it.
Robert
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 5:15PM MST
PS: Mr. Moderator, Re: I'd thought till your comments that they were black people.
Remember the Majors remark in one of the Faulty Towers Episodes (about some dot-indians?) "They're not n*gg*rs, they're Wogs!"
Remember the Majors remark in one of the Faulty Towers Episodes (about some dot-indians?) "They're not n*gg*rs, they're Wogs!"
You Must Escape Wokekanda
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 4:21PM MST
PS Clapton is a champion survivor besides being one of the greatest guitarist ever to grip a fretboard.
He has overcome the COV-LARP by going through the not-a-vaxx mystery meat poison concoction injection and thankfully with minimal damage.
This Salem witch hunt pscychopathy over things people said 40 years ago or a tweet from ten years ago is reaching hysteria levels in Wokekanda.
He has overcome the COV-LARP by going through the not-a-vaxx mystery meat poison concoction injection and thankfully with minimal damage.
This Salem witch hunt pscychopathy over things people said 40 years ago or a tweet from ten years ago is reaching hysteria levels in Wokekanda.
Moderator
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 3:30PM MST
PS: Thanks to both of you - I just don't always feel like looking everything up, but I'd thought till your comments that they were black people. Of course, for any foreigner that works too.
I'll probably forget by late March, Mr. Blanc ;-} You must be one of those snowbirds. Maybe just a free bird, for having gotten out of the cage of Chicago, Illinois.
I'll watch your video in a bit, Alarmist.
I'll probably forget by late March, Mr. Blanc ;-} You must be one of those snowbirds. Maybe just a free bird, for having gotten out of the cage of Chicago, Illinois.
I'll watch your video in a bit, Alarmist.
The Alarmist
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 2:08PM MST
PS
I was always told WOG was polite shorthand for Westernised Oriental Gent, as in describing those in the Crown’s service in the reaches o the Empire, though some associate it more likely with blac-faced golliwog dolls. To each his own. It is shorthand for those who one wishes would get back to where they once belonged.
Speaking of Get Back, WOGs featured prominently in the early incarnations of that song, and Enoch Powell featured prominently in a Beatles gem called The Commonwealth song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMWs6hW_vyE
Enoch Powell and the WOGS ... classic!
I was always told WOG was polite shorthand for Westernised Oriental Gent, as in describing those in the Crown’s service in the reaches o the Empire, though some associate it more likely with blac-faced golliwog dolls. To each his own. It is shorthand for those who one wishes would get back to where they once belonged.
Speaking of Get Back, WOGs featured prominently in the early incarnations of that song, and Enoch Powell featured prominently in a Beatles gem called The Commonwealth song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMWs6hW_vyE
Enoch Powell and the WOGS ... classic!
MBlanc46
Tuesday - February 1st 2022 1:03PM MST
PS “WOG” is said to stand for “Wily Oriental Gentleman”. I haven’t a clue as to where it actually originated.* There is the expression, “Wogs start at Calais”. That would imply that anyone not a Brit was some sort of foreigner. Which, of course, is true if interpreted in a certain way. Especially now that the British have had the good sense to exit the execrable EU.
There might be something in my Partridge’s Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English, but that’s back in Chicago. If you want to remind be in late March, I’ll check.
There might be something in my Partridge’s Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English, but that’s back in Chicago. If you want to remind be in late March, I’ll check.
Oh, Alarmist -
excess deaths are low in Scandinavia (the lowest in all of Europe 2021 - - - and high in Bulgaria for example 8see Euromomo). - Bulgaria is hardly vaxxed // Scandinavia - highly vaxxed.
I don't want to doubt your investment decisions though and wish you good luck with those! - We all know that this is a - somewhat (up to a degree) different game, I'd say.
The estimate of an GB-expert in this field for - : - Deaths of cancer resulting from the lockdown: 55 000 so far. - Hospital treatments delayed in the UK because of the lockdown: A whopping six million. - Now compare that to Sweden: No delays of treatments (this changd a tiny little bit in late Dec./early Jan. - but I'd prefer to ignore that).
https://www.waronflu.org/dr-john-campbell-daily-covid-19-updates/
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Just to pin this down here as a subject for further investigations: Highest numbers in overall - happiness in life in North-America: Highly vaxxed Billionaires - and unvaxxed throughout Hutterites and Amish people (the numbers for these two groups are indistinguishably close together).