Posted On: Saturday - November 27th 2021 4:01PM MST
In Topics:   China  Orwellian Stupidity  World Political Stupidity  Kung Flu Stupidity
Maybe this is not fair, as the Unz Review commenter Erebus, who agreed to my posting his entire comment on Peak Stupidity in One observer's opinion of Chinese Kung Flu Stupidity., may not read here. However, if he wants to comment, he is welcome. Also, I am not arguing that he is wrong in his comment, but just that I don't think it all says anything much good about Chinese society under the Kung Flu PanicFest.
Regarding Erebus' first half of this comment, on the newest Orwellian aspects of Chinese life, or lack thereof, I refer the reader (as I did Mr. Erebus) to the 4-part review of the recent (last '20) Kai Strittmatter book We Have Been Harmonized:
As I've written before, the look at modern China that Mr. Strittmatter reports will scare the Bejusus out of anyone who values his liberty the least little bit. Per Mr. Erebus, well, it's not that bad, as enforcement is not as organized as you might worry about. The Chinese may work hard and work long, but organization is not one of their strongest points, in my opinion from observation. Fine, but I would really not want my little bit of freedom left to depend only on the Authoritah not being as organized as they need to be.
The matter of rural Chinese citizens not having to play by the rules is a good one. That has been the case for a long time, including even during the onerous rules of the one child policy. I think the idea is that, in general, rural people in China are poor-ass peons almost by definition, so let's let them alone so there's not any kind of revolution out of that sector (until only very recently, a big majority of the population).
Now, as for the Kung Flu stupidity in China, no, I have not been since the PanicFest started, over there, of course. However, I do have contacts and have seen WeChat videos. What Mr. Erebus states now may be true, that there's no vaccine mandate there. I've seen videos of reluctant Chinese people being forcefully held down as with out-of-control mental patients and jabbed with the vaccine as they struggled. (Boy, does that make it a bit difficult to make sure to miss a blood vessel?*)
It is great for the Chinese people that they are not being experimented on with novel vaccines that SCIENCE! had no idea of the long term affects of, and seemingly not even the short-term**. Erebus' report has some good news about consent forms being required by the national government. Their national government seems to be a bit more on the side of the people than our on this and (lately) lots of issues. However, if and when the Chinese authorities decide that everyone must take this after all, I think they will get their way.***
We've seen the way the Chinese conduct LOCKDOWNs very early on, something of which our local Totalitarians must be green with envy! Then there is the new Health Score app that Erebus mentioned, Mr. Strittmatter discussed in his book, and I have learned about through personal contacts.
In a reply, the commenter Erebus linked me to a European organization called The Mercator Institute for China Studies, "Merics" for short. In particular, he sent me to one of their articles titled China’s social credit system is actually quite boring. Under the title it reads "A supposedly Orwellian system is fragmented, localized, and mostly targeted at businesses, says Vincent Brussee", Mr. Brussee being one of their many analysts. Yeah, it's got a few excuses for how it's not all bad. I don't buy that opinion. Interestingly, as I looked through the personnel or contributors of/to Merics, I came across a familiar face:
That is the one and only Kai Strittmatter, of all people, who wrote We Shall Be Harmonized. I don't think he'd go for that "supposedly" talk.
As for their own Kung Flu stupidity, I have read too much from dupes on how "China knows how to do pandemic control" and "they took care of it.", etc. Nah, it's really hard to get good info about China. You will not hear about the bad stuff over here. Not only does the CCP control the press their more fully than the US Feral Gov't does, but the social media gets plenty of censorship. I have personally seen WeChat messages that have been prevented from being forwarded. (I guess it's from software back on the servers.) The way around this was a video of a video, which got pretty hard to view, I gotta say.
To address that last thing, as a slight digression into the iEspionage topic, there is likely more than the reason of IP theft prevention that explains Apple's leaving decent input/output devices like phono jacks out of their hardware. Must everything go through the internet to get on or off those (wait, THESE) devices? USB is all you have. Are there no old Radio Shack type tinkerers who can make a device to get sound and video off as analog signals? Maybe the young Chinese don't DO tinkering any more than young Americans do.****
The summary of Peak Stupidity's rebuttal here is simple. Kung Flu stupidity doesn't stop at the border. Oh, and don't look at China for answers, if your questions are come under the slogan Question Authority! They got nada. I don't know if I ever want to see that place again. That's too bad, because in general the Chinese are good people... in small enough doses, haha!
* Granted, as I'm about to write, this is not the same type of vaccine. Perhaps for a normal, dead or weak dose of viral material type, vaccine, that's not a problem.
** It's not like all problems make it to the VAERS database.
*** OTOH, Peak Stupidity has learned that central authority over there is not all we may think - see an old post of ours extolling the Chinese resistance to eminent domain abuse as opposed to Americans' : Fireworks from China .
**** Peak Stupidity had some discussion about this a few years ago - see China vs. America and the local hardware store and DIY and mechanical aptitude in Americans vs. Chinese - self rebuttal