Ann Coulter with a Neocon flashback


Posted On: Friday - August 27th 2021 10:40AM MST
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It happens. You can agree with 98% of the writing or speech of some pundit, politician, even friend, but occasionally stuff that you just plain can't agree with comes out. How can they be like that, you wonder. Ann Coulter has been Peak Stupidity's #1 literary pundit for a long time. It's not just her opinions but her writing style and humor that put her at numero uno.

I would say I agree with 98% of what she writes. I have disagreed on her about the pot (a minor issue, IMO) and about her support for Affirmative Action. The latter stance is not libertarian. It's not conservative. In this day and age, after 1/2 a century of proscribed discrimination against the White Man, not to mention that the shit hasn't helped matters, that stance is plain stupid. Like I wrote though, there's that 98%.

Therefore, while reading what started off and ended as another good common-sense column that any real Conservative, Libertarian, Constitutionalist, and alt-righters, even, would agree with, I came across a Neocon flashback from Miss Coulter. In her latest column, Teaching Psycho Flintstones About Women’s Equality Didn't Work. (Duh!), there's this one small paragraph in the middle:
I was, and remain, more pro-Afghanistan war and Iraq war than Donald Rumsfeld, but not so we could hang out for 20 years and teach them to respect transgenders.
Please note that I kept the link there that either Miss Coulter or VDare had included, pointing to her column on the TownHall site from September 14th, 2001. Yes, it's important to first read her writing from 3 days after the NYC attack. I have a memory of Miss Coulter being a Neocon but forgave her for that emotional writing during that time.

I ask the reader to click that link, because it's not all Neocon vitriol. There's a lot of great libertarian writing about the airport security stupidity. I didn't mean to write a long post here, but.. anyway, here:
"All of our lives" don't need to change, as they keep prattling on TV. Every single time there is a terrorist attack -- or a plane crashes because of pilot error -- Americans allow their rights to be contracted for no purpose whatsoever.

The airport kabuki theater of magnetometers, asinine questions about whether passengers "packed their own bags," and the hostile, lumpen mesomorphs ripping open our luggage somehow allowed over a dozen armed hijackers to board four American planes almost simultaneously on Bloody Tuesday. (Did those fabulous security procedures stop a single hijacker anyplace in America that day?)

Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now.
Great stuff! Now, I read further, and I got to part I specifically remember, 20 years later! You may too:
We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
That was pure emotion, that's all. People read it though. Perhaps the Neocons took great advantage of that.

The 2nd clause in that one sentence paragraph in her recent column has Miss Coulter's point that the wars were OK, but only to punish people and get out. Well, I'll write more with my view of the purpose of the Afghanistan war in another post. Regarding Iraq though, does Miss Coulter just not want to admit she was wrong? Lots of people have. I'd forgive her. Does she still see some purpose for America having waged war on a country that had nothing whatsoever to do with the attack, even as alleged?*

Steve Sailer had a recent post in which he excerpted his writing from a blog post written at the time of the build-up to Iraq War II and the Afghan war.. I give him a lot of credit for his anti-war position back then. As I wrote on that thread, I also saw no rhyme or reason for the Iraq war. However, I remember now that 20 years ago I still had a small amount of respect for these high-up policy makers. My thoughts leaned toward "maybe they know something we don't and can't divulge it... for reasons." I now know that they have plenty of reasons not to tell us their intentions, but it's not because they know better than us.



* Peak Stupidity will publish a post on why we don't argue about 9/11 on 9/11, this year.

Comments:
Hail
Tuesday - September 7th 2021 7:47PM MST
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Mr. Anon wrote: "Ann Coulter and Steve Sailer....have both been essentially useless on the whole COVID affair. Perhaps, being oldish boomers they are just deeply afraid of it. Fair enough. But their blindness to the agenda being pushed through by the very malign forces they know to exist and exert power in the World (Davos Man) is not something I can readily excuse."

I perceive a strong qualitative and quantitative difference between these two commentators' roles on the "COVID."

Ann Coulter: After a brief period in March 2020 and maybe into April 2020 of being cautiously Pro-Panic and a "two weeks to slow the spread" zombie, since no later than May 2020 or so she has been Anti-Panic. I think she has described how and roughly when she snapped herself out of it (but I have no link handy and cannot remember the specifics well enough to do anything but misquote it filling in too many blanks as to reach the point of dishonesty in attributing thoughts to her). Coulter long been moderately Anti-Covid-Panic.

Steve Sailer was an early-adopter of a hardline Pro-Panic position which became the standard line in much of our world, a predictable disaster. He was a nonstop PR man for it during the critical weeks and months.

Sailer, as one of the ultimate sources for much of the Tucker Carlson Right's talking points, undermined any ability to wage a hard-line war against the forces of the Panic at the start---the kind of Anti-Panic united front which characterizes much of the Right and even Center in 2021 but which was simply absent from the public stage in spring 2020 when it mattered.

We could have crushed it in spring 2020 and not let it take over. Now with northern-hemisphere flu season coming, there's no way the monster is put back in its cage until spring 2022, meaning two largely-lost years, a totally unnecessary self-inflicted wound.

Tucker Carlson has seldom had Ann Coulter on his show, and never had Steve Sailer, but his own program is a watered-down version of those two and other influences. Tucker, too, was a Covid Fanatic when it mattered, though eventually converted to the Anti-Panic side and is consistent about it. I think he realized at some point that he was conned, hard and successfully, and takes it more personally than many others.

Coulter allows herself to be more overtly emotional to the extent of trolling (as the main post here argues, re: the infamous "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity"), and has said overtly that she was angry when she realized she was conned about "Covid," and rants against Virus Lockdownism and public-health quasi-dictatorship on the venues that allow her, generally radio. She is now a regular on the old Rush Limbaugh talkshow because the two successors like her and have been allowed a free hand to bring her on at least once a week, and the rhetoric she goes for there is committedly and actively Anti-Covid-Panic of the kind that would get her called names by Ron Unz were she a commenter there.

Coulter sometimes tactically shifts to hardline Anti-Panic positions and rhetoric, putting her at the leading edge of respectable rhetoric. Leading Anti-Panic hardliner journalist Alex Berenson was finally life-banned from his main venue, Twitter, last month, after several one-week bans, and Coulter regularly retweeted him and made parallel arguments. Her brief forays into hardline Anti-Panic territory are generally in response to the latest news of the day, but then she withdraws into a moderate stance again, perhaps worried about being banned herself.

Coulter mocks the Pro-Panic side basically daily, opposes the mandates, opposes all the "Covid" politics and Lockdown-ism, and there is no secret of it. If you check her twitter feed at any given time and check the most recent ten or twenty tweets, odds are several of them are Anti-Panic.

Coulter also says she supports DeSantis 2024 specifically because of the Covid Panic issue and his leadership on it.

What is Sailer's position on DeSantis 2024?
Moderator
Tuesday - August 31st 2021 8:29PM MST
PS: Mr. Anon, I didn't read Steve Sailer back then, but I did read his excerpt of himself from that time that he published recently. Yeah, he's not Conservative, Inc, type like Ann Coulter used to be.

On the Kung Flu, I don't remember being pissed at any of her columns at all during this period. I just can't remember it all right now, but I think she was less worried about it than Steve Sailer, on a personal level that is.
Adam Smith
Tuesday - August 31st 2021 12:57PM MST
PS: Good afternoon everyone...

Mr. Anon, I agree with all three of your comments.

“But the main reason, I think, was it's use as a forward base.”

That's what I meant by “strategic location”, but my words were kinda clumsy.
Your “use as a forward base” language is more succinct. Thanks.

Mr. Anon
Monday - August 30th 2021 10:50PM MST
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"I think they targeted Afghanistan for the minerals, the opium and it's strategic location."

Quite so. Maybe throw in a gas-pipeline too. But the main reason, I think, was it's use as a forward base.

We invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. Why? Well, what lies between Afghanistan and Iraq? Perhaps that is a clue. And perhaps that was to be the seventh of the "seven nations in five years". I have no beef with that country, and neither do most other Americans. But there is one country that does seem to be particularly worried about that country.
Mr. Anon
Monday - August 30th 2021 10:45PM MST
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Steve Sailer was solid on the "War on Terror" right from the beginning. He thought it was a load of crap, and that the best thing we could do is stop importing plane-loads of people who hate us, rather than invading their countries and chain-gunning them until they loved us "for our freedoms". And he was right.

Ann Coulter was, at the time, a believer in all the neo-con lies, but she eventually came 'round to the more Sailerian point of view, and she's been solid on that ever since.

But they have both been essentially useless on the whole COVID affair. Perhaps, being oldish boomers they are just deeply afraid of it. Fair enough. But their blindness to the agenda being pushed through by the very malign forces they know to exist and exert power in the World (Davos Man) is not something I can readily excuse.

To quote somebody - I can't quite recall his name - when it comes to the struggle against the Bill Gates's and Klaus Schwabs of the World...............You're either with us, or against us.
Mr. Anon
Monday - August 30th 2021 10:37PM MST
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@The Alarmist

"September 10th is a long ways away in Covid Clown World ... Sh!t happens."

Indeed. I used to long for a return to 9/10/01. Now I just long for a return to 03/12/20.
Adam Smith
Saturday - August 28th 2021 10:54AM MST
PS: Good afternoon,

Mr. Blanc,

According to the official story, 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi's. However, in the days/weeks following the event several of the alleged hijackers were reportedly alive and well. (I have some info about the hijackers, but it's a couple pages long and would take up a whole lot of space on this page. The stories about the hijackers who were still alive have been pretty well scrubbed from the interwebs.)

“It seems as if the wrong target were picked, for reasons which escape me.”

I think they targeted Afghanistan for the minerals, the opium and it's strategic location.

Maybe the war planners picked their targets knowing full well that the events of September eleventh were staged so they could launch wars in seven countries in five years (General Wesley Clark said in a 2007 interview that America’s objective is to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran. As long as Iran is independent and not in the clutches of the U.S. and Israel, they will be in the crosshairs of NATO and the Zionist regime.)

https://img.jagranjosh.com/images/2021/May/2052021/greater Israel.jpg

https://s.faketrumptweet.com/jubgdu9d_g4n7sf_kwpab3.png

https://i.ibb.co/VQ9M6h0/Bin-Ladens-Mountain-Fortress.gif

Moderator
Saturday - August 28th 2021 8:12AM MST
PS: Yes, great bands, IMO, Mr.Blanc. That period ended with the arrival of disco. That is not to say the bands weren't still around into the late '70s, (barring overdoses, plane wrecks, quarrels, and the like), but that disco really put the kibosh on the popularity of the great sounds of the mid-'70s.

I would say it started at the end of the old 60's spillover into the early '70s, culture-wise.
Moderator
Saturday - August 28th 2021 8:09AM MST
PS: MBlanc, you guys are both digging into the Afghan post coming. Bin Laden was associated with the Taliban, the sect that was running Afghanistan. The alleged direct culprits were those Saudis, so, if we were going to invade anyone, which wasn't the answer anyway, you'd think it have been Saudi Arabia. But no, we are great loyal allies, of some sort (at least at the top level we are). More Saudi immigrants (and not to mention students who may or may not ever leave) have been arriving yearly SINCE 9/11/01. That should tell us how serious a country this is.
MBlanc46
Saturday - August 28th 2021 7:58AM MST
PS Regarding the Afghan debacle, if memory serves, 19 of 20 of the hijackers were Saudi citizens. None of them were Afghans. It seems as if the wrong target were picked, for reasons which escape me. And, “great bands of the mid-1970s”?
Moderator
Saturday - August 28th 2021 6:58AM MST
PS: Peter Ike, thank you for that. That's good news that definitely deserves a post. You mentioned clicking Twatter, but I was thinking "click your heels together 3 times ..." as with that meme I put in an unz comment, but forgot to put up here.
Moderator
Saturday - August 28th 2021 6:55AM MST
PS: Adam, thanks for that info from RT. It can be said in a good way, but I am not when I say "these people just won't quit!" They want the US military to stay in the Middle East 24/7/365/Kingdom Come. I suppose they are using Biden's F'd up pull-out as an excuse now. "Yeah, we have to go back in so we can proceed with a proper pull-out from Afghanistan. Pull out Proper!"

There are so many parallels to Vietnam that show that the people that should, don't learn jack squat from history, recent history even.
Moderator
Saturday - August 28th 2021 6:51AM MST
PS: I agree, Alarmist, but it's hard to attack the culprits alone. To me, that has been the problem in all wars since I suppose before WWI when it least it was almost all one armed force against another directly (most of the time, and not counting terrorism).

I was going to address that regarding the Taliban and Afghanistan in that coming post on the Afghan war.

In this case, Miss Coulter was angry and pretty much whacked out.
The Alarmist
Saturday - August 28th 2021 4:48AM MST
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September 10th is a long ways away in Covid Clown World ... Sh!t happens.
PeterIke
Friday - August 27th 2021 1:25PM MST
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OT, but the Rona is ovah in Denmark.

https://twitter.com/alan_firth_/status/1431177475103592451

All you have to do is say so, and it's done!

To avoid giving Twatter clicks, this is the gist:

Breaking in Denmark: From 10th September, Covid 19 will no longer be regarded as a ‘societally-critical’ illness and therefore *all* restrictions will end in Denmark.
Adam Smith
Friday - August 27th 2021 12:29PM MST
PS: Good afternoon Mr. Alarmist, Mr. Moderator...

Leon Panetta says JoBidet will have to “go back in” to deliver on a pledge to avenge the deaths of troops in Kabul.

https://www.rt.com/usa/533225-panetta-predicts-return-afghanistan/

So much vengeance.

(((False Flag))) attacks sure do get the proles all fired up.

Remember when “we” had to avenge the deaths of Scott Helvenston, Jerry Zovko, Wesley Batalona, and Mike Teague?

Remember when we “had to” destroy Fallujah in order to save Fallujah?

https://archive.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/occupation/2004/1108vietnam.htm

Remember the Maddox?
Remember the Maine?

Miss Coulter is wrong about Cannabis and she's wrong about war.

Miss Coulter needs to smoke a phatty...

The Alarmist
Friday - August 27th 2021 11:45AM MST
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The problem is that carpet bombing cities and mass killing of civilians ar war crimes.

That’s not who we are supposed to be.
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