When the Music's Over


Posted On: Thursday - March 18th 2021 7:37PM MST
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I was trying to pick some music that I could dedicate to the scum Commies like the doxer described in the previous post. Nothing came to mind really quick, and I felt like some Doors. Peak Stupidity has only featured The Doors music once in a post about an "LA" Woman (in reality, a Chinese spy).

When the Music's Over is from The Doors' 54 year-ago album Strange Days. Yeah, 1967 had some strange days alright. These guys, especially Jim Morrison himself fit right in with all that. These weirdos could play though. This, along with The End, and maybe more songs I don't recall or never heard, has Mr. Morrison going on a rant in the middle. So long as that hypnotic combination of bass guitar and keyboards keeps going, I can get lost in these songs, whatever Morrison was going on about notwithstanding.



Guys like Christian Exoo's days won't go on forever. The music will be over for people like him, as soon as Americans have a little less to lose. Imagine "our fair sister" is America:

What have they done to our fair sister?
Ravaged and plundered and ripped her and bit her,
stuck her with knives in the side of the dawn, and
tied her with fences and dragged her down.


The Doors were:

Jim Morrison – Vocals
Ray Manzarek – Keyboards
Robby Krieger – Guitar
John Densmore – Drums

Comments:
The Alarmist
Saturday - March 20th 2021 3:05PM MST
PS

On LA Woman, for me its a toss-up between “Been Down so Long” and “The WASP (Texas Radio and the Big Beat)”.
Moderator
Saturday - March 20th 2021 5:59AM MST
PS: Thanks, Dieter, for that book suggestion.
Moderator
Saturday - March 20th 2021 5:57AM MST
PS: Cloudbuster, I read a biography of The Doors long ago. It has the band meeting in normal ways, with Morrison and Manzarek meeting while Morrison was in film school or something. Jim Morrison was the creative type, no doubt. though the drugs could have helped that a lot.

I have read a whole book about the Laurel Canyon/MK Ultra and all that. I wish I could remember the name, but it wasn't "Hotel California", the book Mr. Dieter suggests. Yeah, it may have been something weird that all these musicians from there became big. I don't know. It was a center of creativity and the drugs helped that along. I believe the book said that a lot of this drug experimentation was encouraged by Deep State types from the east and so forth. Was it just that they had lots of willing subjects out there in California?

I'm not saying some sinister force couldn't have been behind it all, but the book didn't have me convinced. Rebellion was very big back then, such as with Jim Morrison vs. his Admiral Dad. I don't know how people would know how a project like this would turn out for American society and WHY they wanted it to turn out the way it did.

Regarding the arranged bands like the Monkees (widely known, as they were formed from newspaper ads looking for TV show band members), I'm sure commercial interests took advantage of the new thing, being a wierdo, hippy, rebel, whatever, in their marketing campaigns. If degeneracy was selling, then degeneracy it was gonna be...
Moderator
Saturday - March 20th 2021 5:45AM MST
PSL Alarmist, I'm pretty sure I embedded "The End" in another post.

When one really gets into a band, one appreciates even the not-so-hot album cuts, but only for a while, Peter. That's my experience. Way after their time, I had a period in which I liked The Doors a lot. I will add "Moonlight Drive", "Backdoor Man", "Crystal Ship", "Light my Fire", and "Love her Madly" to Mr. Ganderson's list.
dieter kief
Friday - March 19th 2021 2:26PM MST
PS PeterIke
Laurel Canyon and California - a tasteful and well informed look at the scene:

Barney Hoskyns - Hotel Califonia - I enyoed reading that


https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/231024.Hotel_California
PeterIke
Friday - March 19th 2021 12:13PM MST
PS
The thing about The Doors is they were basically a singles band. Two or maybe three great, great songs on an album, and the rest mostly junk. But they produce some stuff that sounds as fresh today as it did... (checks pulse)... 53 years ago.

"a group of mediocre-plus musicians"

Nah, The Doors were tight. Great band.

"the improbability of the Laurel Canyon music scene of the late '60s and early '70s -- how many of the key figures were children of military or intelligence figures"

Interesting. Along these lines, I was watching the Jim Jarmusch documentary about Iggy Pop, "Gimme Danger," which is TERRIFIC. And one of the things Iggz sez is that you'd be surprised at how many bands were created in board rooms. Ones that you'd never suspect. He didn't name any, though, damn him. But I get the sense that Iggy is really pretty based.
Cloudbuster
Friday - March 19th 2021 12:01PM MST
PS: Jim Morrison and the doors are a very weird subject. Think about it. This guy is the son of an Admiral. He shows no particular interest in or talent for music his whole life*. Then suddenly in 1965 he forms a band with a group of mediocre-plus musicians, with a bunch of song lyrics and melodies already prepared and ready to go, shoots immediately to stardom, and it's all done five years later and he's dead within six years.

There's a guy who did a whole book about the improbability of the Laurel Canyon music scene of the late '60s and early '70s -- how many of the key figures were children of military or intelligence figures, the startling amount of degeneracy that went on, and the sheer improbability of the success of some of these dubiously-talented people (some of them were basically manufactured bands, differing from The Monkees only in that the The Monkees publicly acknowledged it. In fact the The Monkees band members were part of the Laurel Canyon scene, as was Charles Manson).


* Though he apparently did do a lot of weird, esoteric reading that should have been way beyond his realm of experience (remember in the days before the internet, finding out about obscure stuff was *really hard*):

"His senior year English teacher said, 'Jim read as much and probably more than any student in class, but everything he read was so offbeat I had another teacher (who was going to the Library of Congress) check to see if the books Jim was reporting on actually existed. I suspected he was making them up, as they were English books on sixteenth- and seventeenth-century demonology. I'd never heard of them, but they existed, and I'm convinced from the paper he wrote that he read them, and the Library of Congress would've been the only source.'[14]"
The Alarmist
Friday - March 19th 2021 10:24AM MST
PS

Didn’t want to go with “This is the End” eh?
MBlanc46
Friday - March 19th 2021 7:57AM MST
PS Rather liked the Doors at the time. But their music hasn’t worn well. I agree with Ganderson: Too pretentious.
anon
Thursday - March 18th 2021 9:37PM MST
PS

"Don't let 'em pull you down"
(Ian Stuart Donaldson [UK] 1984)

You're walking 'round the street
And a van slows down
They pull you off your feet
And they knock you around

Whoever they are,
If it's the Reds or the blues,
Well they spit on the flag
And they take it out on you!

We're flying the Union Jack!
And there ain't nothing wrong with that..
We're flying the Union Jack,
And there ain't no turning back!

Wherever you go, whatever you do
You're always getting picked on
For your Red White and Blue

The judges in the pocket
The best that money buys
And the other sort of leaders
Who wave a Red flag

We're flying the Union Jack
And there ain't nothing wrong with that
We're flying the Union Jack
And there ain't no turning back, White man...
Ganderson
Thursday - March 18th 2021 9:09PM MST
PS Riders on the Storm and LA Woman weren’t bad either.
Ganderson
Thursday - March 18th 2021 9:06PM MST
PS

Never was a huge Doors fan, but really liked Break on Through, Soul Kitchen, 20th Century Fox, People Are Strange, and Roadhouse Blues.

Tended a bit too much toward the pretentious for my taste.
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