Posted On: Monday - February 26th 2024 6:51PM MST
In Topics: Elections '16 - '24 Trump The Neocons
... they're always telling him, "you're quite a character."
Peak Stupidity started this thing, so we've gotta finish it. We posted short political biographies of Nikki as Scene 1 and Henry as Scene 2. In the final scene of this political chick flick, Donald Trump appears, as he did in Home Alone 2. In this one he gets more than a cameo appearance, however.
Donald Trump picked SC Gov. Haley to be US Ambassador to the UN in November of '16, when the former was still President-elect. Upon taking the office on Jan 20th of '17, President Trump nominated Haley, and she was confirmed by the Senate 2 days later 96-4 (hmmmm... what might that tell you?) She resigned the SC Governorship, and Lt. Governor Henry McMaster took the Governorship.
Why'd Trump pick this Neocon, if he was truly against the American Warfare State? We've discussed this before, in posts and comments. As the Governor of S. Carolina, Nikki Haley's NeoConinnity, if I may, had not much of a reason to come to the surface. I believe her Invade-the-World attitude had lots to do with her husband's military "service" and the crowd they'd have been hanging out with, and it came out in spades as she "represented" the US in the UN.
I'll give Ambassador Haley credit for supporting President Trump in nixing the bogus Paris Climate Calamity™ accords and withdrawal from the UN Human Rights Council. The rest of her words and actions were pure Neocon. She didn't even support the Trump Moslem ban, started (conveniently, I gotta say) during the early part of the Kung Flu PanicFest.
That brings us to Haley's Invite-the-World tendencies. Even though she's a daughter of very-foreign immigrants, she was born in small town South Carolina and is assimilated ... up to a degree that is, right before the point of caring about keeping the (VDare term) Historic American Nation intact. Haley could care less about that. She's never been against the Population Replacement Program - it's just that you've got to do it all LEGALLY.
Nikki Haley was a late-comer to the MAGA world, as she had initially supported, uggh, Marco Rubio back in '16, and she was only half-assed at it. Somehow, that got her a plumb position high-up in foreign affairs. Well, maybe there IS more to it. I wrote the post Free Advice for a future President Trump mostly in jest. The suggestion was the hiring of certain lower-level politicians to these plumb positions in order to allow more Conservative politicians to take these lower-level, but still important, positions vacated.
You've got to FOLLOW THROUGH though*, meaning, FIRE THEM! OK, maybe not right on the day their replacements get sworn in - don't want to be TOO obvious. UN Ambassador Haley resigned on her own**, per Wiki (yeah, I know) either due to a looming scandal or friction with other Trump foreign policy makers, all of them NeoCons as well!
Would long-time old South Conservative Henry McMaster have gone NeoCon, if he had been picked for UN Ambassador or Secretary of State***? I don't know. I don't think he'd be gung-ho on the "Invite-the-World" program anyway.
Yes, this series has been repetitive, but I only started it due to my being very surprised at one small thing Trump said in a speech in Conway, SC two weeks back. Go to 02:20 in the video in this Gateway Pundit post.
About SC Gov. McMaster: "I don't want to say it too loud, but the fact is, it was more important to get Henry McMaster to be Governor than it was to have her [you know who] at the United Nations, I have to be honest."
Honest? I don't know, but as after-the-fact bullshit, it comes across pretty well. Or, has Trump really been playing that 5-D chess after all? I can't tell with this guy. My left brain can't keep up with the 5-D chess-playing, egotistical bullshitting right brain of Donald Trump. Where is the ego, BTW? Anyone? Anyone ... Dieter? As with The Sixth Sense, this one ended with me wondering if I need to see the whole thing again to get it.
PS: As I recall, early on Candidate/President Trump didn't think too highly of the UN. It was not quite at John Birch Society level, but maybe if you planned on getting the US out of that organization, sticking Haley up there was a good move ...
* Trump's incapability to do that being one of the traits that one of his former underlings, Ken Cuccinelli, noted with disappointment.
** We should assume that, as there was no years-long tweet-fest first.
*** As it's rumored Trump first wanted Nikki Haley for. (Stupid, stupid, stupid!!)
Comments:
Moderator
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 6:00AM MST
PS: I didn't see "Two Weeks Notice", Alarmist. Perhaps I should then.
I remember Sandra Bullock in a black bikini from some 1990s movie about subterfuge on the internet. It's amazing what we keep with us. I forget what else happened besides that her company or co-worker got the idea they were being hacked or what-have-you while she was on vacation on the beach... in a black bikini...
I remember Sandra Bullock in a black bikini from some 1990s movie about subterfuge on the internet. It's amazing what we keep with us. I forget what else happened besides that her company or co-worker got the idea they were being hacked or what-have-you while she was on vacation on the beach... in a black bikini...
Moderator
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 5:57AM MST
PS: Dieter, Steven MIller is a real mensch, as they say. The action on the immigration invasion during Trump's presidency would have been more strategic, thorough, and long-lasting, had Steven Miller been the only go-to guy on it, and Javanka being relegated to their Washington, FS house, to show up at the White House on holidays only.
Yes, I know about the numbers from VDare. Trump brought the illegal alien numbers down from previous years - the 1980s through Obama times - quite a bit, vie wheeling-dealing with Mexico's AMLO and others. He kept the policies made during the PanicFest in place. Bai Dien reversed that. "Remain in Mexico", as in, you may have a (bogus) asylum claim, but until we get to it in (5, 10 years) you stay in Mexico or go home elsewhere. Bai Dien reversed that. Now, and even often before Trump, OTM. (Other Than Mexico) illegals do and would get the opposite deal - stay in the US till we get to you. Almost none of them appear for some stupid court date in a year, or 2 or 5.
Just as importantly, Trump brought the number of legal, for what that's worth, "refugees" down from number like 50,000 to over 100,000 annually to under 30,000, IIRC, by his last year in control of this.
For more on this, Dieter, see "President Donald Trump: the Bad, **the Good**, and the Ugly" from Oct of '20.
https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=1651
Of course, I got the basics from VDare, especially - for that post - Washington Watcher II and Allan Wall.
Now, the Bai Dien numbers are 3 to 5 TIMES anything even before Trump.
I'm glad your'e feeling better. Just don't sneeze.
Yes, I know about the numbers from VDare. Trump brought the illegal alien numbers down from previous years - the 1980s through Obama times - quite a bit, vie wheeling-dealing with Mexico's AMLO and others. He kept the policies made during the PanicFest in place. Bai Dien reversed that. "Remain in Mexico", as in, you may have a (bogus) asylum claim, but until we get to it in (5, 10 years) you stay in Mexico or go home elsewhere. Bai Dien reversed that. Now, and even often before Trump, OTM. (Other Than Mexico) illegals do and would get the opposite deal - stay in the US till we get to you. Almost none of them appear for some stupid court date in a year, or 2 or 5.
Just as importantly, Trump brought the number of legal, for what that's worth, "refugees" down from number like 50,000 to over 100,000 annually to under 30,000, IIRC, by his last year in control of this.
For more on this, Dieter, see "President Donald Trump: the Bad, **the Good**, and the Ugly" from Oct of '20.
https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=1651
Of course, I got the basics from VDare, especially - for that post - Washington Watcher II and Allan Wall.
Now, the Bai Dien numbers are 3 to 5 TIMES anything even before Trump.
I'm glad your'e feeling better. Just don't sneeze.
Moderator
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 5:45AM MST
PS: Dieter, you are quite right that this story is not worth diving into very much. However, what started with my hearing those words from Trump during his SC primary campaign got this going. Though less detailed and investigated (I mean, Wiki, please!). short biographies were along the lines of what Mr. Hail has been known to do on his blog.
That was just to get to my short point, that bit that Trump said. It really surprised me - did he actually think that back in Nov. of '16, or did it sound like a pretty good excuse for his move 7 years later?
I imagine Nikki will be some sort of "consultant" in political matters, resulting in plenty of money to upgrade the mansion on Kiawah or maybe to the level of her and her "warrior" husband obtaining a private jet - could fly out of John's Island, aka Charleston Executive now.
But that means we won't need to hear from her again. I had even more to post with some of the really birdbrainey stuff she said against Trump in the campaign, but perhaps it is indeed a waste of time.
That was just to get to my short point, that bit that Trump said. It really surprised me - did he actually think that back in Nov. of '16, or did it sound like a pretty good excuse for his move 7 years later?
I imagine Nikki will be some sort of "consultant" in political matters, resulting in plenty of money to upgrade the mansion on Kiawah or maybe to the level of her and her "warrior" husband obtaining a private jet - could fly out of John's Island, aka Charleston Executive now.
But that means we won't need to hear from her again. I had even more to post with some of the really birdbrainey stuff she said against Trump in the campaign, but perhaps it is indeed a waste of time.
The Alarmist
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 4:50AM MST
PS
Mr. Trump’s cameo in “Two Weeks Notice” was probably more endearing, and who can’t like Sandra Bullock.
Now that I think about it, Sandra Bullock would have been a better governor.
Mr. Trump’s cameo in “Two Weeks Notice” was probably more endearing, and who can’t like Sandra Bullock.
Now that I think about it, Sandra Bullock would have been a better governor.
Dieter Kief
Tuesday - February 27th 2024 12:41AM MST
PS
Mod. - he is throwing these stories out and he is scoring in the moment he does and clearly that is one of his prime modes of - uuuuhhhhh: Acting**.
**This si something special in the English language: Acting as in the ficticious movie and acting as in - reality are the same verb. But this is only a side note.
I guess he IS (at least) a step away from the neocon idea to dominate the world.
2) More than a step a way from the climate-change-de-industrialise the West ideas and dito:
3) From open borders.
2) is self-evident from what we know about his first term.
Dito 3) - the difference of the numbers between Trump-term and Biden-term is striking.
3 b) - Stephen Miller. - A very focused and bright guy (look him up on X - - - daily new attempts at the goal he is in for in this Trump-camp.) I repeat myself: Steve Sailer, who grew more and more Trump-reluctant, had - repeatedly - high praise for this young Californian lawyer - Stephen Miller.
Nikki Haley is one of those stories you could spend years with - but as of now I would not dive into her story much. She might soon be out of the race - and out of the hot center of things for some years - Rebus Sic Stantibus as the srious econmist decorates his predictions: As long as things stay pretty< much as they are (as long a sno Black Swans appear...).
PS
Oh - Mod. and Adam thanks for your good wishes - - !
My back is "getting so much better all the time".
I can laugh again quite nicely - only sneezing reminds me that there had been something a bit wrong.
Mod. - he is throwing these stories out and he is scoring in the moment he does and clearly that is one of his prime modes of - uuuuhhhhh: Acting**.
**This si something special in the English language: Acting as in the ficticious movie and acting as in - reality are the same verb. But this is only a side note.
I guess he IS (at least) a step away from the neocon idea to dominate the world.
2) More than a step a way from the climate-change-de-industrialise the West ideas and dito:
3) From open borders.
2) is self-evident from what we know about his first term.
Dito 3) - the difference of the numbers between Trump-term and Biden-term is striking.
3 b) - Stephen Miller. - A very focused and bright guy (look him up on X - - - daily new attempts at the goal he is in for in this Trump-camp.) I repeat myself: Steve Sailer, who grew more and more Trump-reluctant, had - repeatedly - high praise for this young Californian lawyer - Stephen Miller.
Nikki Haley is one of those stories you could spend years with - but as of now I would not dive into her story much. She might soon be out of the race - and out of the hot center of things for some years - Rebus Sic Stantibus as the srious econmist decorates his predictions: As long as things stay pretty< much as they are (as long a sno Black Swans appear...).
PS
Oh - Mod. and Adam thanks for your good wishes - - !
My back is "getting so much better all the time".
I can laugh again quite nicely - only sneezing reminds me that there had been something a bit wrong.
Achmed, the movie you're thinking about is called "The Net". It's from 1995. Not sure if I've ever seen that or "Two Weeks Notice". Seems like I probably have, but it would have been long ago. On to the post...
“Why'd Trump pick this Neocon, if he was truly against the American Warfare State?”
Do we have any real evidence that Trump is/was truly against the warfare state? I know he didn't start any new wars, but he did sign off on the Soleimani assassination. He also bombed some Syrian runways at an airbase because Ivanka was (allegedly) saddened by the fake Syrian chemical gas attacks, or something. Not really the actions of a principled Anti-warfare stater. (In my opinion.)
He was, however, much better than his predecessors/successor regarding the warfare state. Perhaps he'll be even better yet when he's selected for a second term?
I don't know where Trump's heart really lies concerning the warfare state, but I think he could have done more to throw some wrenches in the gears to slow their roll. (Perhaps he tried but was out maneuvered by the deep state and the entrenched warfare state bureaucracy? I really don't know what he was up against.)
“I believe Haley's Invade-the-World attitude had lots to do with her husband's military "service" and the crowd they'd have been hanging out with...”
I'm not sure how much of her Invite-the-World attitude has to due with her husband or his mercenary job or the company they keep though I do agree that her status as one of America's preeminent Anchor Babies is likely to hold great influence in shaping her Invite-the-World beliefs. All that aside, I'm inclined to believe that much (if not most) of her Invite-the-World attitude has to do with the opinions of those who fund her coffers. Maybe I'm just being cynical.(?)
Anyway...
I'm happy to hear your feeling better, Dieter.
Cheers to a speedy and complete recovery!
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