PS

Be wary of (and aware of) Elise Stefanik, who is an aggressive Zionist.

From what we have seen of her, she is the kind who implicitly takes the position that Jews and Israel are more important than White-Christians in America. A common position, but a bad one in many ways.

It wouldn't be right to say that Elise Stefanik is the same species of con-person as Trump is, though, for she is more ideological.

Interestingly, Elise Stefanik is a Harvard graduate overlapping for three years with Michelle Wu, the anti-American or post-American current Mayor of Boston in the 2000s. Amazing coincidence! If we were in the business of alleging a conspiracy to keep control over politics, and that this conspiracy inserts figures like Michelle Wu into positions of power (anyone interested in this theory can read the below), we would not be overly surprised if the conspiracy also inserted people like Elise Stefanik on the "Trump side"!

https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2024/01/04/michelle-wu-mayor-of-boston-believes-every-human-being-has-the-legal-right-to-come-to-the-united-states-michelle-wu-as-biographical-ideological-study-of-the-u-s-elite-in-the-2020s/

PS: Re: Florida v New York, etc., of course I'd pick the Sunshine/gunshine State. Yes, Alarmist, that Orwellian camera surveillance business is almost everywhere. To really get away from it, one may go to a remote land where they don't have the wherewithal and competence to set up all this stuff or really use it. Sure, Bolivia or Costa Rica or Thailand all sound good, but they have their own problems.

Adam Smith has the right idea, to get to one of the few hold-outs that aren't SO bad (yet). Plus, the racial demographics are very good! It's not so easy to find a reasonably warm place with those demographics - there are isolated pockets.

As it stands, I still want to check out Uruguay, if nothing else, just to know if a place like that should even be considered.

PS: Thanks for writing in, Mark, Magagna. I don't think we've heard from you before. There's no way to know for sure though ;-}

Mr. Blanc, I don't know - I think Trump would say that, but he's using "hostages" because he thinks this is all about him. Everything, all the lawfare, the injustice, Totalitarianism, etc. being discussed here - Trump is under the impression that's all about him. It is A LOT about him, he being a lightning rod for the hate and oppression coming from the left. Why he doesn't say Political Prisoners or discuss the evil of The Regime in general is that he cares more about himself than about this country. (He does care about the country - he likes Americans more than the Globalist elite do - but he has no foundation of Constitutionalism and real understanding of liberty. I.e., he's not really that smart when it comes to all that...)

PS: Thanks for the great discussion here. I agree that admission of guilt means nothing these day, unless you know a whole lot about the case. Once facing those length sentences that you all have discussed (with severity indeed age dependent) most of us might go that route. It's especially the case when we may know that there are almost no Americans who have our back. Being a hold out of real justice when nobody even knows about it, well, I'm not sure what good that'll do.

If we had anything like a free press, in the legacy big media that is, the J6 story should be in the news daily. Using the word "hostages", one could compare this to the coverage, at least mention of, the American hostages in Iran held 444 days(?) back in 1979-'80.

PS: What can I say, Mr. Alarmist...

I'm a hopeless romantic. A dreamer even.

I do know that there is less surveillance as you get further away from the city and into flyover country.

"Free" Florida.(?) I used to live in Florida for awhile. First place I moved to when I left New York. (I headed south for the sun until the roads ended. Landed in the Florida Keys.)

I liked Florida well enough, and it treated me well. Much better than NY, but much too much like NY.

I call Florida "Southern New York". Too many people. Too many rules. Too many toll roads. Not at all like the real south.

Lots of sunshine and fresh citrus, which is quite nice. I'd take Florida over New York any day.
(If I had to live in New York I would kill myself.)

Anyway... I'm off to town to find some WSN-M97B18-D compatible antifreeze.
(Wish me luck.)

Cheers! ☮️

PS

“... but does it really aid in the pursuit of justice?”

Justice ... lulz, Mr Smith. America stopped being about actual justice decades ago.

Repeat to yourselves: “There are no political prisoners in America” even if you don’t believe that or even know better.

Fear is freedom.
Subjugation is liberation.
Contradiction is truth.

In communist regimes, the only winning move and the best, albeit not perfect, survival plan is to join the Party, if they let you, and to always spout the party line and assume they listen to everything you say, see everything you do, and already have a dossier to use against you.

I’m looking outside my window in Florida and see what looks like a camera installation looking at my building from what is allegedly a utility pole. There are cameras on the many of the utility poles here. When I drive through a cash lane on my local toll road, they photograph my and other cars coming and going. This is “free” Florida. You have no privacy anywhere in the USA. And we haven’t even gotten into the size of Cabal’s surveillance net.

🕉🛸🤐

PS Mr Trump doesn’t have the spine to say, “political prisoners”. I’m skeptical that any mainstream Repub as the spine to say, “political prisoners”. To do so would be to say that the regime is as evil as they say that we are. And the Repubs can’t be having that.

PS: Good morning, Mark,

Seven to nine years plus fines ranging from $30,000 to $300,000. (I don't know Mr. James' financial situation, but I'd assume that after his arrest, conviction and presumably seven to nine years in federal prison he would be unemployable and therefore judgement proof.)

I do agree with your greater point. What may seem like a similar sentence really isn't when factored for age. Stewart Rhodes, 57, was sentenced to 18 years. How many people in their 60's and 70's can handle the stress of prison?

Might as well be sentenced to life.

☮️

PS
Adam: so according to the guidelines, he's now up for 7 to 9 years. As opposed to his already sentenced supposed co-conspirators, who have received more than twice that.

Age also matters. If you're in your 40s and you get 20 years, generally you should plan on dying in prison. If you're in your 20s and you get 10, you will likely live to be released.

James is mid-thirties, the other two are in their mid to late fifties. James will probably see the sun again, those two won't.

PS: Good morning, Bill,

What are the people to do when the “state” over steps its bounds? And at what point would it become moral and righteous to rebel against the authority of a state in general?

I do agree with you that an unarmed insurrection is preposterous. This nation should be constitutionally incapable of having political prisoners, but well, that is obviously not the case.

If only there were some sort of historical precedence for the inauspicious situation we find ourselves in...

“𝐺𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑡𝑢𝑡𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑔 𝑀𝑒𝑛, 𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑗𝑢𝑠𝑡 𝑝𝑜𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑓𝑟𝑜𝑚 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑔𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑒𝑑, 𝑇ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤ℎ𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑎𝑛𝑦 𝐹𝑜𝑟𝑚 𝑜𝑓 𝐺𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑛𝑚𝑒𝑛𝑡 𝑏𝑒𝑐𝑜𝑚𝑒𝑠 𝑑𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑟𝑢𝑐𝑡𝑖𝑣𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑠𝑒 𝑒𝑛𝑑𝑠, 𝑖𝑡 𝑖𝑠 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑅𝑖𝑔ℎ𝑡 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑃𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑙𝑡𝑒𝑟 𝑜𝑟 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑠ℎ 𝑖𝑡...”

You know the thing...

Hope you have a great day, Bill. ☮️

PS: Good morning, M,

I agree. A guilty plea is almost always due to a plea bargain, (very few cases go to trial and the punishment is very harsh for the few who have the audacity to decline the plea deal offered and are later found guilty), so presumably Joshua James will receive a (much?) lighter sentence than the others who were found guilty of seditious conspiracy.

(Wikipedia lists seven other "oath keepers" and "proud boys" who were found guilty of seditious conspiracy and their sentences range from 10 years to 22 years.)

Joshua James is set to be sentenced on January 26ᵗʰ...

“𝐼 𝑠𝑢𝑠𝑝𝑒𝑐𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟𝑠 𝑤𝑒𝑟𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑔𝑢𝑖𝑙𝑡𝑦 𝑎𝑡 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑡 𝑝𝑎𝑟𝑡𝑙𝑦 𝑑𝑢𝑒 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑝𝑙𝑒𝑎; 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑏𝑙𝑦 ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑛 𝑡𝑒𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑓𝑖𝑒𝑑 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑚.”

Apparently your suspicions are correct...

https://www.newsweek.com/oath-keeper-joshua-james-set-enter-plea-agreement-jan-6-involvement-1684231

“According to U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta of Washington, D.C., James is now expected to fully cooperate with the Department of Justice (DOJ) during the ongoing investigation into the Oath Keepers' role in the January 6 riot. Furthermore, he is expected to now provide grand jury testimony for affiliated trials.”

Of course, their “expectations” may, or may not, be satisfied. I suppose his level of cooperation will be reflected in in sentence.(?)

“As part of his plea agreement, his offense level was adjusted from 32 to at least 29, which means the recommended range for sentencing is 87-108 months, along with fines ranging from $30,000 to $300,000. Originally, the two counts he pled guilty to carried a maximum sentence of 20 years in jail each.”

Stacking those charges to secure a plea deal probably helps conviction rates, but does it really aid in the pursuit of justice? How many people who take the plea deal are later found innocent? (How many are innocent but never exonerated?)

I guess we will hear about James' sentence sometime around the end of the month.(?)

Cheers! ☮️

PS Definition of "sedition"
"conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state"

Not against a single act of that state, but generally against it's authority. J6 was, at most, an attempt to prevent a single act of the federal government, which the people of this nation have an absolute, constitutional right to do.

The federal government is treating J6 as an attempt to overthrow the government as a whole, doing so without the use of weapons, which is beyond absurd.

This nation should be constitutionally incapable of having political prisoners, but since the J6ers have been in imprisoned in pursuit of the political agenda of the Democrat Party, the nation indisputably does have political prisoners.

PS
Adam: I do wonder what his alternative was. A guilty plea is almost always due to a plea bargain, so he would have been doing this instead of getting something worse.
I suspect the others were found guilty at least partly due to his plea; possibly he even testified against them.

PS: Good evening, Mr. Alarmist,

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384

On March 2, 2022, Oath Keeper Joshua James pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy, admitting in his plea that "from November 2020 through January 2021, he conspired with other Oath Keeper members and affiliates to use force to prevent, hinder and delay the execution of the laws of the United States governing the transfer of presidential power." Stewart Rhodes and Kelly Meggs, also of the Oath Keepers, were found guilty of seditious conspiracy on November 29, 2022. Rhodes was sentenced to 18 years and Meggs to 12 years.

On June 6, 2022, five members of the Proud Boys—their leader Enrique Tarrio, together with Joseph Biggs, Zachary Rehl, Ethan Nordean and Dominic Pezzola—were indicted for seditious conspiracy. On May 4, 2023, all but Pezzola were convicted. A few months later, they were sentenced. Pezzola was sentenced on September 1, 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_proceedings_in_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

☮️

PS

America does not have political prisoners, and the mere act of suggesting it does is enough to get you on the watchlist and possibly sent to prison for seditious conspiracy.

PS: “Prisoners of conscience”? ☮️

PS: How 'bout “prisoner of conscience”? ☮️