Posted On: Thursday - December 7th 2023 9:33PM MST
In Topics: Movies Media Stupidity Race/Genetics ctrl-left Legal Stupidity
The astute, on-the-ball Peak Stupidity readers will have probably all heard of this documentary and many likely already watched it. I'll just refer to The Fall of Minneapolis as a movie here, and this will be a review, for those not sure if they want to spend the 1 hour and 42 minutes watching. The video appears below, but the link here goes to the movie on rumble in case you have any problems here (such as not being able to view full-screen, etc.)
There's no reason for me to go over the whole case here, of the death of fentanyl-overdosing, violent, reprobate George Floyd, the excuse for a summer or more of violence, looting, burning, and destruction, then the racially-motivated show trial. I'd learned a lot within a few days of what real story was more likely than that this poor innocent George Floyd was the victim of murder.
What really miffs me when I read arguments on-line today (with the news of Derek Chauvin having been stabbed 22 times in the Federal prison in Tucson) is that it’s taken 3 years for people to get the story! Maybe it’s because I DIDN’T watch TV news on the story that I DID know what really happened – not all details, mind you, but the gist of it – within a couple of weeks.
I’m not a cop, forensic expert, lawyer, any of that. I just read things and pulled up video at the time. Some of it has indeed been censored. Maybe the public will SOMEDAY, EVENTUALLY learn that they will be more informed if they don’t watch the standard Lyin’ Press Narrative Infotainment. It shouldn’t take this long, to where the man got railroaded in a coerced Stalinist show trial after pressure from months of Black Looter Mayhem and antifa Commie destruction and threats.
OK, about The Fall of Minneapolis now: The title doesn't really fit well, first of all. This movie is not so much about the decline of the city of Minneapolis due to the the death of St. Floyd and the resulting mayhem. It's about the actions that took place that May 25th of '20, the initial portion of the rioting and destruction with an emphasis on the 3rd Precinct police station, the railroading of Derek Chauvin in his trial, and interviews with many people involved, including Mr. Chauvin himself (only audio, from prison).
I would apportion the duration of discussion in the movie as such:
20 minutes: The arrest and attempted booking of George Floyd, with bodycam and other footage. This footage was tedious just watching, much worse for the cops trying to put this dumb, drugged-up reprobate into the cop car. He wouldn’t let them put him in the back, and he is a big guy. It was that, or I guess, as Steve Sailer says, you don’t arrest Black! people if they don’t want to be arrested, and too bad about the counterfeit twenties being passed around… and the woman threatened by Floyd with a gun to her pregnant belly.
The cops called the EMS early on, but the firemen went to the wrong location (quite likely due to incompetent AA dispatchers that can’t communicate well) and the ambulance took forever.
20 minutes: The first few days of destruction - protesting, looting, and burning. This included a pretty long segment about the abandonment then of the 3rd precinct (police station). I gotta say, though that evacuation under pressure from a violent mob must have been stressful, I really didn't appreciate seeing the police officials involved breaking into tears in the interviews. That'd be the women for the most part. Come on. I'm sorry, but I can think of things to cry about later, but that wasn't it. Perhaps these women shouldn't be involved next time. Its' one thing for the Mayor of Minneapolis Jake Frey to make big fake sobs at St. Floyd's funeral - he's a politician - but those big men doing that fake tear-wiping thing... please stop.
10 minutes: The movie focused on the Lyin' Press infotainment that stirred up the mob, politicians such as that evil Mayor Frey and Bai Dien himself, and then the Black! Reverend grifters and that crowd.
5 minutes: The question of exactly how George Floyd died is important, and the first autopsy that showed he didn't die by
20-25 minutes: Derek Chauvin's trial was a big part of the movie. I'll write about a few aspects of this in another post.
15- 20 minutes: There were interviews with cops involved with the trial and the Moms of both Derek Chauvin and Alex Keung, one of the other 3 cops present - he was sentenced to 3 years behind bars, I believe. Then, there were short phone interviews with both Mr. Chauvin and Mr. Keung from prison.
As I noted in the beginning, the whole event of this convenient excuse for BLM/antifa to run amok about the city of Minneapolis (first) was not the story here. The movie was mostly centered on the happening on the street that one day, and the things that the Minneapolis cops, especially the one guy, experienced in the aftermath. It is a movie made from the viewpoint of the cops.
That doesn't mean it's not worth watching for anyone else. The 01:42 was not a waste of my time, even though I'd known a lot of it. I'd not followed the court case though, so that part was somewhat new to me.
One would like to think that those who have pushed the black awokening business to near the brink since the Summer of '20 would have something to gain by watching this movie. I know better. They don't want to learn something, for lots of them, something that they already know. They are not interested in the truth, just power. They gained a lot of power by taking advantage of the death of that stupid worthless reprobate George Floyd. Lots of Americans are complicit in giving them this power by acquiescing to the following years of bullshit.
Here's the movie:
Comments:
Moderator
Saturday - December 9th 2023 5:46PM MST
PS: "... there are so problems with the Chauvin event, prosecution and trial (and the culture that exacerbated those problems) that they can't all be covered in a single film." I agree, J1234. This film only covered enough to at least show, to my satisfaction anyway, that George Floyd was not murdered and that manslaughter would not likely even be an appropriate charge either. As I wrote, it's written from a cop point of view.
The focus on the events by the cop cars that one day, plus (very small) discussion of the trial, and then the sentencing should be enough for anyone to see that Chauvin was railroaded by the system. It was the fairly direct threat of more black violence that enabled this, IMO.
As you wrote, there could have been, and still be, big political motivations behind these threats.
"An even more sinister possibility is that this could be a form of implicit societal extortion from the left. I.e., "We won't riot and create billions of dollars of damage when black criminals are killed by the cops...as long as a far left Democrat is in the white house" (in the same vein of AOC crying about "kids in cages" at the border, but only when there's a Republican president.)"
I don't find anything implausible in this level of sinister within the ctrl-left. Maybe nobody wrote it down the way you did, and maybe they didn't even talk about it as a plan. Nonetheless it is implicit for them.
Why it wasn't some other guy, with maybe even a more sympathetic story, a week before that or a month later may just be because they have to muster up the, errr, none dare call them "troops"? They have to have the right venue and materiel in place or else the riots might have to be delayed, often causing a lack of purpose seen - nothing BUT burning and looting without "a cause", which is always OK with them too...
Finally, no, they didn't cover defund the police at all IIRC. To me, that would go with the title "The Fall of Minneapolis", along with Mr. Ganderson's thoughts. That title really wasn't the best for this movie. "The Railroading of Derek Chauvin" or "Goodbye, Precinct 3" may have fit better.
The focus on the events by the cop cars that one day, plus (very small) discussion of the trial, and then the sentencing should be enough for anyone to see that Chauvin was railroaded by the system. It was the fairly direct threat of more black violence that enabled this, IMO.
As you wrote, there could have been, and still be, big political motivations behind these threats.
"An even more sinister possibility is that this could be a form of implicit societal extortion from the left. I.e., "We won't riot and create billions of dollars of damage when black criminals are killed by the cops...as long as a far left Democrat is in the white house" (in the same vein of AOC crying about "kids in cages" at the border, but only when there's a Republican president.)"
I don't find anything implausible in this level of sinister within the ctrl-left. Maybe nobody wrote it down the way you did, and maybe they didn't even talk about it as a plan. Nonetheless it is implicit for them.
Why it wasn't some other guy, with maybe even a more sympathetic story, a week before that or a month later may just be because they have to muster up the, errr, none dare call them "troops"? They have to have the right venue and materiel in place or else the riots might have to be delayed, often causing a lack of purpose seen - nothing BUT burning and looting without "a cause", which is always OK with them too...
Finally, no, they didn't cover defund the police at all IIRC. To me, that would go with the title "The Fall of Minneapolis", along with Mr. Ganderson's thoughts. That title really wasn't the best for this movie. "The Railroading of Derek Chauvin" or "Goodbye, Precinct 3" may have fit better.
J1234
Saturday - December 9th 2023 2:01PM MST
PS -
Mod, thanks for the article on, and review of, this documentary. I'd never heard of it, and it deserves all the publicity it can get, whatever its shortcomings are. I think that one of the obstacles the film faced was that there are so many problems with the Chauvin event, prosecution and trial (and the culture that exacerbated those problems) that they can't all be covered in a single film. Of course, there wouldn't be the funding to produce a series instead of a single film (think ken burns) but that's what's needed.
One obviously incriminating element that was left out of the film (as far as I can tell) dealt with the pro "defund the police" Minneapolis city council members who received $150,000 in private security service while they screamed about getting rid of the police for everyone else. To me, that was emblematic of societal dysfunction at large. If it was in the film, I didn't see it.
Beyond the documentary, here's something to consider: There have been a few deaths of "unarmed" black men at the hands of cops in the US over the last year or so, and NONE of them have spawned anything remotely like the reaction to St. George's death. So, my question is - is that because the left doesn't want to go down the "fiery yet peaceful" path anymore? Or, is it because (as I suspect) the left knows there's an election coming up, and they need to keep Donald Hitler out of office. Add to that the fact that their senile incumbent candidate has a minimal chance of winning, and you can see why all the violent leftist worker bees might be on their best behavior.
An even more sinister possibility is that this could be a form of implicit societal extortion from the left. I.e., "We won't riot and create billions of dollars of damage when black criminals are killed by the cops...as long as a far left Democrat is in the white house" (in the same vein of AOC crying about "kids in cages" at the border, but only when there's a Republican president.)
Mod, thanks for the article on, and review of, this documentary. I'd never heard of it, and it deserves all the publicity it can get, whatever its shortcomings are. I think that one of the obstacles the film faced was that there are so many problems with the Chauvin event, prosecution and trial (and the culture that exacerbated those problems) that they can't all be covered in a single film. Of course, there wouldn't be the funding to produce a series instead of a single film (think ken burns) but that's what's needed.
One obviously incriminating element that was left out of the film (as far as I can tell) dealt with the pro "defund the police" Minneapolis city council members who received $150,000 in private security service while they screamed about getting rid of the police for everyone else. To me, that was emblematic of societal dysfunction at large. If it was in the film, I didn't see it.
Beyond the documentary, here's something to consider: There have been a few deaths of "unarmed" black men at the hands of cops in the US over the last year or so, and NONE of them have spawned anything remotely like the reaction to St. George's death. So, my question is - is that because the left doesn't want to go down the "fiery yet peaceful" path anymore? Or, is it because (as I suspect) the left knows there's an election coming up, and they need to keep Donald Hitler out of office. Add to that the fact that their senile incumbent candidate has a minimal chance of winning, and you can see why all the violent leftist worker bees might be on their best behavior.
An even more sinister possibility is that this could be a form of implicit societal extortion from the left. I.e., "We won't riot and create billions of dollars of damage when black criminals are killed by the cops...as long as a far left Democrat is in the white house" (in the same vein of AOC crying about "kids in cages" at the border, but only when there's a Republican president.)
Moderator
Saturday - December 9th 2023 1:26PM MST
PS: BTW, for Mr. Ganderson but anyone else here, I will write a short 2-part post today, one of which will be a link to a much longer review of "The Fall of Minneapolis" I read only part way through it (the Tucker/Alex Jones interview comes first), but you may find out the answer to your questions on the medical help in there.
Look on unz.com - it's right up top, or was, last I checked.
Look on unz.com - it's right up top, or was, last I checked.
Moderator
Saturday - December 9th 2023 1:24PM MST
PS: Mr. Ganderson, I knew you were from the Twin Cities, but I hadn't known what part of town. There must be so many memories, if they can even be recalled as you walk through neighborhoods that have been destroyed.
Regarding the emergency services, the documentary says the firemen, who are trained as EMS's (?) too - I know they can do a lot of what the "ambulance drivers (old term) can - got sent to Cup Foods, while the cops were somewhere not far away dealing with Mr. Floyd. How'd he get from right by the store to the other location I either forgot or it didn't make clear.
There must have been really crappy communications between the firemen and the 9-1-1 dispatchers. You'd think someone would have figured this out in just a minute or two. As with lots of incompetence these days, I can make a good guess that AA/Woke employees had something to do with it.
I'm don't think it was the ambulance that got lost, but yes, good question, why that late. The movie covers this pretty well, so if nothing else, skip toward where you see in preview stills a picture of a heavy-set broad in uniform in court. That's about the portion of this documentary in which this was discussed.
Regarding the emergency services, the documentary says the firemen, who are trained as EMS's (?) too - I know they can do a lot of what the "ambulance drivers (old term) can - got sent to Cup Foods, while the cops were somewhere not far away dealing with Mr. Floyd. How'd he get from right by the store to the other location I either forgot or it didn't make clear.
There must have been really crappy communications between the firemen and the 9-1-1 dispatchers. You'd think someone would have figured this out in just a minute or two. As with lots of incompetence these days, I can make a good guess that AA/Woke employees had something to do with it.
I'm don't think it was the ambulance that got lost, but yes, good question, why that late. The movie covers this pretty well, so if nothing else, skip toward where you see in preview stills a picture of a heavy-set broad in uniform in court. That's about the portion of this documentary in which this was discussed.
The Alarmist
Saturday - December 9th 2023 10:21AM MST
PS
Mr. Ganderson, those who would pick up the real estate on the cheap might be the first to let it burn. Let it ghettoize, buy it, and then let the third-world army and national police clean out the ghetto of the problem.
Look at how LA has been ethnically cleansed of much of its ADOS population in recent years.
Mr. Ganderson, those who would pick up the real estate on the cheap might be the first to let it burn. Let it ghettoize, buy it, and then let the third-world army and national police clean out the ghetto of the problem.
Look at how LA has been ethnically cleansed of much of its ADOS population in recent years.
Ganderson
Saturday - December 9th 2023 8:52AM MST
PS
I haven’t summoned up the courage to watch the movie. As most of you know this hits really close to home for me; even though I no longer live in the Twin Cities, I get back quite often, and watching my hometown unravel in real time is heart-wrenching .I now have a sense what Detroiters or the (white)residents of Newark must have experienced back in the late 60s.
The Minneapolis- St. Paul I grew up in was a wonderful place- safe, clean, quiet, if perhaps a bit dull; a great place to raise a family, or to be a kid. There was no place we wouldn’t go, even the ghettos weren’t so “ghetto-y”. Seemingly all gone now.
In July of the “Summer of George” I drove down Lake Street, where most of the major ructions took place (The 3rd precinct station that burned is just off 27th and Lake). Many of my pals had told me that “it wasn’t so bad”. Well, it was; burned out buildings the whole urban nightmare scape.
A few things about the Floyd case that puzzle me:
Where was the ambulance? 38th and Chicago is not some obscure corner of the City of Lakes- it’s a major intersection. (I’d further point out that given the neighborhood around 38th and Chicago, ambulance runs there were/are not unusual) How could the ambulance get lost? Our host’s explanation of AA is possibly the explanation , but even at that…
The complete inaction of Minneapolis. Mayor Jacob Frey, St. Paul Mayor Melvin Carter, and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz. Why do all three still have their jobs? (Rhetorical question)
Ancillary question: why did stuff in St. Paul burn? The owners of Lloyd’s pharmacy on North Snelling Avenue had nothing to do with the death of St. George.
Finally the canonization of Floyd. Even if one believes that Chauvin was a stone cold first degree killer, ( Obviously,I don’t believe that) that doesn’t make Floyd St. Francis of Assisi. It makes the deification of Michael Brown and Travon Martin seem mild by comparison. It’s an indictment of the state of black culture.
I haven’t summoned up the courage to watch the movie. As most of you know this hits really close to home for me; even though I no longer live in the Twin Cities, I get back quite often, and watching my hometown unravel in real time is heart-wrenching .I now have a sense what Detroiters or the (white)residents of Newark must have experienced back in the late 60s.
The Minneapolis- St. Paul I grew up in was a wonderful place- safe, clean, quiet, if perhaps a bit dull; a great place to raise a family, or to be a kid. There was no place we wouldn’t go, even the ghettos weren’t so “ghetto-y”. Seemingly all gone now.
In July of the “Summer of George” I drove down Lake Street, where most of the major ructions took place (The 3rd precinct station that burned is just off 27th and Lake). Many of my pals had told me that “it wasn’t so bad”. Well, it was; burned out buildings the whole urban nightmare scape.
A few things about the Floyd case that puzzle me:
Where was the ambulance? 38th and Chicago is not some obscure corner of the City of Lakes- it’s a major intersection. (I’d further point out that given the neighborhood around 38th and Chicago, ambulance runs there were/are not unusual) How could the ambulance get lost? Our host’s explanation of AA is possibly the explanation , but even at that…
The complete inaction of Minneapolis. Mayor Jacob Frey, St. Paul Mayor Melvin Carter, and Minnesota Governor Tim Walz. Why do all three still have their jobs? (Rhetorical question)
Ancillary question: why did stuff in St. Paul burn? The owners of Lloyd’s pharmacy on North Snelling Avenue had nothing to do with the death of St. George.
Finally the canonization of Floyd. Even if one believes that Chauvin was a stone cold first degree killer, ( Obviously,I don’t believe that) that doesn’t make Floyd St. Francis of Assisi. It makes the deification of Michael Brown and Travon Martin seem mild by comparison. It’s an indictment of the state of black culture.
Moderator
Friday - December 8th 2023 6:21PM MST
PS: I just read that substack post, Alarmist. I will read more of Reiner Füllmich, and I'm thinking of sending him a Christmas card per his wife. I don't know it would get though - that probably depends on what I write. Can I mention the Covid-19 even?
The Alarmist
Friday - December 8th 2023 2:36PM MST
PS
The Chauvin trial was a thin legal veneer for a lynch mob. There are many grounds for judicial appeal, but we’ll see if Cabal allows any to be given serious consideration in courts of appeal, much the way that nearly all evidence of 2020 election tampering and fraud were never given serious consideration in American courts.
PPS: Germany returns to its old ways ...Free COVID dissident Reiner Füllmich, who was kidnapped in Mexico to answer bogus charges in Germany:
https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/reiner-fuellmichs-wife-inka-tearfully
The Chauvin trial was a thin legal veneer for a lynch mob. There are many grounds for judicial appeal, but we’ll see if Cabal allows any to be given serious consideration in courts of appeal, much the way that nearly all evidence of 2020 election tampering and fraud were never given serious consideration in American courts.
PPS: Germany returns to its old ways ...Free COVID dissident Reiner Füllmich, who was kidnapped in Mexico to answer bogus charges in Germany:
https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/reiner-fuellmichs-wife-inka-tearfully
Moderator
Friday - December 8th 2023 1:09PM MST
PS: "Minnesota Nice encounters 21st century America." This isn't working out so well, is it? It worked for Mary Tyler Moore in the "Great White North" Minneapolis of the mid-1970s, a different country.
MBlanc46
Friday - December 8th 2023 12:22PM MST
PS Minnesota Nice encounters 21st century America.
Moderator
Friday - December 8th 2023 6:23AM MST
PS: Good afternoon, Dieter! Change the races around on the trial/sentencing/stabbing story, and, believe you me, there'd be protests maybe as far as Europe again. It'd be another opportunity for antifa Commies to destroy and black thugs to get a, I mean, "on" TV.
People are just putting up with this stuff. I think it's easy to rationalize that, "these cops are an arm of the Police State, so they all get what they deserve", etc. No, but the truth is important, and no matter how ridiculous the sentence, being stabbed 22 times is not a part of it.
Yes, the background of the stabber, as speculated by iSteve commenters, is another story.
I'll check out your revolver.com article. Thanks.
People are just putting up with this stuff. I think it's easy to rationalize that, "these cops are an arm of the Police State, so they all get what they deserve", etc. No, but the truth is important, and no matter how ridiculous the sentence, being stabbed 22 times is not a part of it.
Yes, the background of the stabber, as speculated by iSteve commenters, is another story.
I'll check out your revolver.com article. Thanks.
Dieter Kief
Thursday - December 7th 2023 11:55PM MST
PS
Thx. Mod. - for me that's enough, I guess.
It's on judicial record that the Derek Chauvin case was based on the fraudulent version of the medical examination of George Floyds body:
https://revolver.news/2023/11/trial-by-ordeal-the-chauvin-verdict-and-the-dark-embarrassing-truth-of-the-american-jury-system/
I posted that on X - nobody protested, even though the big TV news shows and print media in Germany keep insisting, that Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd. So - people have msotly forgottne about this story - and some even know by now that there's something strange about this story - and even fewer say: It is a wrong story.
Add to that the fact, that the Derek-Chavin-stabber is a FBI-informant and Mexican drug cartell criminal with Croation roots.
The rulers play the judicial system in many cases as they please.
Thx. Mod. - for me that's enough, I guess.
It's on judicial record that the Derek Chauvin case was based on the fraudulent version of the medical examination of George Floyds body:
https://revolver.news/2023/11/trial-by-ordeal-the-chauvin-verdict-and-the-dark-embarrassing-truth-of-the-american-jury-system/
I posted that on X - nobody protested, even though the big TV news shows and print media in Germany keep insisting, that Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd. So - people have msotly forgottne about this story - and some even know by now that there's something strange about this story - and even fewer say: It is a wrong story.
Add to that the fact, that the Derek-Chavin-stabber is a FBI-informant and Mexican drug cartell criminal with Croation roots.
The rulers play the judicial system in many cases as they please.
Koon commanded her to stop where she was, and then followed procedure (important point) to subdue King. I watched the whole video and THE SECOND KING PUT HIS HANDS BEHIND HIS BACK they stopped striking him and cuffed him.
Of course the scene was brutal and unsettling, but the entire video gives context to show why the police acted as they did.
The big problem with this trial was that the federal government re-tried the officers on "civil rights" charges. They got a change of venue and they were able to anticipate the arguments the defense made. This is IMHO a landmark (at least in my knowledge) for mob rule, since the retrial was a response to the King riots.
The notion of double jeopardy obviously went out the window here. As the Bible says, "It is expedient that one man should die [or suffer in this case] for the people."