PS To be honest, my relative was a kind of special case. He really didn't have a good relationship with his parents and his rationale (excuse?) was that he was worried about having that kind of relationship with his kids. He also had a kind of convincing (I wouldn't say domineering; he was soft-spoken and reasonable) personality. I guess you can say he was a good salesman.

If he had thought about it, though, this was pretty denigrating to his wife, who was a very nice person. I mean, he thought his wife might turn out like his mother, and there was no way that was going to happen. And his father was passive, and there was no way he was going to be passive. So I think it's an excuse. They lived very well; nice house, cars, travel etc.

But I do know a number of younger people who, reflecting on their parents' relationships, are leery of marriage or bringing up a family.

PS: From Fred the Gator: "She wanted kids but my relative was pretty adamant."

That's a shame for her, but I don't know if they got this straight upon their engagement or whenever. Lots of couples don't really talk this over, from what I've experienced. Then, too, even if the guy was straightforward and adamant about it from the start, that $$ and stability may have had her thinking that, "well, I can change him."

You know how it is with that. He may have figured that she meant what she said, and that's also a standard problem.

PS "Fred, it sounds like what you're telling me it that the Frankfurt School Communist were space aliens?"

Haha... I think they (and many others) were inhabited, or at least strongly influenced, by alien mind parasites, that is, beings that exist outside the normal canons of natural law. These alien mind parasites are corrupted and seek our destruction, not because we get in their way, but because they like creating misery and destruction because they are spiteful and envious.

Some guy wrote about it a few years ago:

"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places."

But "alien mind parasites" tends to go over easier when teaching this stuff to middle school kids.

I mean, convincing women that having bringing about and shaping the next generation is less important than getting out some power-point presentation? Definitely something supernatural at work.

PS "I am curious if you know whether the wife was OK this that decision by your entrepreneurial relative."

She wanted kids but my relative was pretty adamant. They ended up owning dogs and she apparently takes out her maternal instinct on them.

I've noted that many people will use animals as a substitute for kids. I was worried when my son and his wife got a dog, but fortunately they had a son about a year later.

PS: "If some interstellar invaders wanted to destroy the human race, seems like a good strategy would be: (1) (2)" Fred, it sounds like what you're telling me it that the Frankfurt School Communist were space aliens?

I could believe that more than some of the theories about JFK. I didn't include your (3), because these aliens are not standing back - they are still pushing this stuff. Would aliens have thought of the BLTG++ idea? No alien civilization is THAT clever!

Thanks for the anecdote too. I am curious if you know whether the wife was OK this that decision by your entrepreneurial relative. Yes, that last paragraph is part of the problem too. Even if she eventually got him to change his mind (or conveniently forgot something), by the late 30s, 3 things are harder:

1) Conception
2) Carrying the baby to term
4) Delivery/complications

PS If some interstellar invaders wanted to destroy the human race, seems like a good strategy would be:

1. Give the human race the technology to reliably avoid conception after intercourse

2. Convince the most intelligent females (especially) that having children is a waste of their talents, too inconvenient, too expensive, or otherwise not worth doing

3. Stand back and wait until the human race becomes incapable of defending itself

I read something (did I read it here???) that Singapore was an IQ shredder because highly intelligent people are induced to marry but not have children. I think Silicon Valley is also an IQ shredder.

I have a very successful relative who sold several startups and made a big chunk of change in the process. He's married but he refused to have kids. His decision process definitely shredded some IQ.

I've also noted that the tendency to delay marriage and having children has resulted in a number of couples of my acquaintance having trouble getting pregnant and needing IVF or other technological aids to have children.

PS: That would mean, Mr. Blanc, were women basically the same as far as these "habits" before and after the pill in other respects (I don't think so, though), fertility now is the same as what it would have been as far as PLANNED pregnancies (or at least being ready for it). The additional numbers before were all "oops"s? There's a lot to this.

PS: "Is this anecdote yet another reminder that fertility is naturally dysgenic?" Yeah, that's what I was thinking, Adam.

Alarmist, it would have been OK probably but for the immigration invasion. I think there will come an equilibrium, were this stopped, but it'll be not very White. Were this invasion never started, it could have been an equilibrium of the same proportions of Americans the country had in 1965.

Mr. Blanc, the pill has to be a big part of it, BUT, see Mr. Hail's graphs from this post of his:

https://hailtoyou.wordpress.com/2023/07/11/americas-demographic-crisis-on-developments-in-births-in-the-usa-in-the-early-2020s-and-1920s-to-2022/

Check out his century-long graphs of White birth share. Total numbers would be nice, but one can see a gentle decrease even during the Baby Boom, %-wise. Then, from 1969, it heads on down quickly. That's about the time that birth control pill took hold, isn't it?

PS We’ve given women the option of copulating without the chance (or very low chance, and termination if she loses) of conception. Many women are availing themselves of that optionl

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The future world belongs to those who show up.

It's not looking good for those descendent from White Europe.

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PS: Off topic, but Osama Bin Laden becoming Gen Z's Noam Chomsky wasn't something I saw coming...

https://tinyurl.com/mr3b6ew8
https://informationclearinghouse.info/article6537.htm

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PS: Good afternoon, Mr. Moderator,

Is this anecdote yet another reminder that fertility is naturally dysgenic?

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