Posted On: Saturday - May 6th 2023 5:39PM MST
In Topics: Music Websites
As you may have either seen while trying to view Peak Stupidity or read of in the comments, I'd forgotten to renew the SSL (Secure Sockets Layer) digital "certificate". Therefore browser gave scary warnings. I know you all can get on here if you want, but was proven 2 years back to be discouraging to new readers. (I'm not sure how I could take your money, since there's no place to pay, but then, a prospective reader would not get to find that out..)
I'll tell you that I didn't have my notes from 2 years ago on how to do this thing more on my own, so I had to shell out a few bucks. Time is money though, and I'm not enamored with that kind of work. OK, I'll set a phone alarm for next year.
Next, in that same thread I linked to in the previous post, commenter Wilkey and others, starting here had more info on the Oregon Shakespeare Festival and its woke director, as we wrote about here and here, and Mr. Hail wrote about here. The woke Black! director, Nataki Garrett, has been fired. There will be no honest reason given - that'd be a bridge too far.
BTW, I do usually link to here from TUR when appropriate. However, most of what I did in the 2 posts was paste in material from the commenter Wilkey. I did look at a couple of additional stories and give some opinion. In a recent thread on that site, a couple of commenters got on my case, albeit semi-sarcastically, I think, about continually linking to Peak Stupidity there. Sorry, that's what I do. That won't change unless it's forced, but I write this to explain that those remarks aren't why I didn't link this time. I had nothing extra to add really.
For a few days, I'd had a country music song from long ago in my head. If you'd have told me it was a Kenny Rogers song, I wouldn't have believed you. It was/is, and I really like this one. Kenny Rogers got pretty sappy about the time he got famous* - it worked for him, so I shouldn't knock it. This one seems pure 1970s country to me though. It's Love or Something Like It, from 1978.
BTW, that line about "she even had a name we could sign" at the motel reminds me a lot of the lyrics from The Amazing Rhythm Aces in their great song Third Rate Romance. They both are pretty country-style lyrics.
I'll continue on that sad, but to be expected South Africa story, an important one if nothing else due to that things may go that way here. Also, it'll be inflation data-point week - I think I have 5 of them built up. There are also 2 1/2 movies to be discussed. Have a happy Sunday. Thanks for reading and writing in!
* He was what they called a "cross-over artist". That was one who was big on the country music charts only - not nearly as big a deal as being on the Pop charts - but turned to writing songs somewhat more in the pop vein to cross over to the big-time and big bucks, from both audiences.
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[UPDATED. 05/07:] Added reference to the Amazing Rhythm Aces.
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Comments:
Moderator
Monday - May 8th 2023 1:53PM MST
PS: Fred the Gator: Kenny Rogers was more versatile, I guess, than we'd heard on the radio. What Ganderson wrote reminded me that that "What my condition is..." song didn't sound to me ANYTHING like other of his music. It sounded like some 1960s hippie stuff, in fact.
Moderator
Monday - May 8th 2023 1:50PM MST
PS: Mr. Ganderson, I'll have to be content with youtube and other archive sources. (You linked me to one place with full shows - I don't need video anyway).
I got about 4 long-length tapes from a die-hard/tie-died Deadhead long ago that were labeled with the show dates but also said "Third Generation". For a long time, I think a year or two, I thought that was just some comment about 3rd generation of Grateful Dead listeners. I finally realized he meant 3rd-generation taping. That is, the original from the show got played and recorded (hopefully directly electronically and then he had those 2nd recordings to make tapes from for people like me. It was very nice of him. They were good shows too, but those tapes got stolen out of a car in a whole case of cassette tapes long ago... alas!
I got about 4 long-length tapes from a die-hard/tie-died Deadhead long ago that were labeled with the show dates but also said "Third Generation". For a long time, I think a year or two, I thought that was just some comment about 3rd generation of Grateful Dead listeners. I finally realized he meant 3rd-generation taping. That is, the original from the show got played and recorded (hopefully directly electronically and then he had those 2nd recordings to make tapes from for people like me. It was very nice of him. They were good shows too, but those tapes got stolen out of a car in a whole case of cassette tapes long ago... alas!
Moderator
Monday - May 8th 2023 1:46PM MST
PS: KCaCO, thanks for your takes on the news! Since I don't have a name, was the Indiana politician serious about it or trolling the whole idea. If it's the latter, I like that way of handling this. The stupidity must be made fun of, but doing it in a way that gets us ahead in the cultural war is even better.
All of your 3 "old school" artists have been featured here and are favorites of mine. As for country, Willie, Waylon (I think Sr., definitely Jr., but not III), Johnny Cash, and I think Patsy Cline too, have been on here.
All of your 3 "old school" artists have been featured here and are favorites of mine. As for country, Willie, Waylon (I think Sr., definitely Jr., but not III), Johnny Cash, and I think Patsy Cline too, have been on here.
Moderator
Monday - May 8th 2023 7:58AM MST
PS: Thank you all for the good comments. I'll have to reply more 3 hours from now - will be off the net - phone is pretty useless for this sort of thing...
Moderator
Monday - May 8th 2023 7:57AM MST
PS: Long ago on this site:
"More Gord's Gold - Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald"
https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=115
It's not just the great song, but the video is a very good memorial to these fine lost Americans - something like 29 or 30, I believe, lost in Lake Superior's "Icewater Mansion" on that bitter November day.
The Edmund Fitzgerald was a something-like-700-ft-long ore carrier.
"More Gord's Gold - Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald"
https://www.peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=115
It's not just the great song, but the video is a very good memorial to these fine lost Americans - something like 29 or 30, I believe, lost in Lake Superior's "Icewater Mansion" on that bitter November day.
The Edmund Fitzgerald was a something-like-700-ft-long ore carrier.
Ganderson
Monday - May 8th 2023 6:04AM MST
PS
There was a time when I thought all Canadian men were named Gord, Reg, or Cam.
And, re Gordon Lightfoot- I was always a casual fan- saw him once in the 70s at Tanglewood; he put on a good show.
He came out of a folk music tradition, that while still heavily commie-infested, didn’t seem to hate average working folk. I was always struck by this line from the “Canadian Railroad Trilogy” to wit: “ built the mines, the mills and the factories, for the good of us all”.
What? Aren't mines and mills and factories places where all those icky people work?
Don’t know anything about Gord’s politics, which is a point in his favor.
I suppose today in Prime Minister Zoolander’s Canuckistan you’d have to read one of these “stolen land” statements before singing “Canadian Railroad Trilogy”.
Also, gotta love a song (Alberta Bound) that’s a love letter to a seriously unsexy place like Alberta. That is, seriously unsexy to the tragically hip…
There was a time when I thought all Canadian men were named Gord, Reg, or Cam.
And, re Gordon Lightfoot- I was always a casual fan- saw him once in the 70s at Tanglewood; he put on a good show.
He came out of a folk music tradition, that while still heavily commie-infested, didn’t seem to hate average working folk. I was always struck by this line from the “Canadian Railroad Trilogy” to wit: “ built the mines, the mills and the factories, for the good of us all”.
What? Aren't mines and mills and factories places where all those icky people work?
Don’t know anything about Gord’s politics, which is a point in his favor.
I suppose today in Prime Minister Zoolander’s Canuckistan you’d have to read one of these “stolen land” statements before singing “Canadian Railroad Trilogy”.
Also, gotta love a song (Alberta Bound) that’s a love letter to a seriously unsexy place like Alberta. That is, seriously unsexy to the tragically hip…
Ganderson
Monday - May 8th 2023 5:43AM MST
PS One more thing: the reason , I think, that 5/8/77 has such a great reputation (and make no mistake, it was a VERY good show) is that it was one of the first decent quality tapes* to circulate- dunno if it was an FM broadcast or what, but it was the one tape EVERYBODY had. There may have been more circulating copies of the Cornell show than most Dead albums. I wonder if anyone has researched such an esoteric topic!
*The tape from the Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, 8/13/75 was also in wide circulation.
*The tape from the Great American Music Hall, San Francisco, 8/13/75 was also in wide circulation.
Ganderson
Monday - May 8th 2023 5:31AM MST
PS. Hey all- haven’t been posting much anywhere lately, due to a number of factors- I’ve still been lurking, however.
Dead and Company are playing at Barton Hall, Cornell University tonight, which is the anniversary of the very famous show at that same venue in 1977. There is a rumor out there that they are going to recreate the playlist from 5/8/77; I hope not, as it would seem rather gimmicky. I’ll be listening from home, tix being impossible to come by..
As Kenny R would say, I’m gonna just drop in to see what condition my condition is in.
As an aside, despite its reputation, the original Barton Hall show, while a good one, was probably not even the the best show THAT WEEK; I’d argue for either the next night in Buffalo, or 3 days after that in St. Paul. Every show from May 1977 was top drawer, though, not a clinker in the bunch.
Dead and Company are playing at Barton Hall, Cornell University tonight, which is the anniversary of the very famous show at that same venue in 1977. There is a rumor out there that they are going to recreate the playlist from 5/8/77; I hope not, as it would seem rather gimmicky. I’ll be listening from home, tix being impossible to come by..
As Kenny R would say, I’m gonna just drop in to see what condition my condition is in.
As an aside, despite its reputation, the original Barton Hall show, while a good one, was probably not even the the best show THAT WEEK; I’d argue for either the next night in Buffalo, or 3 days after that in St. Paul. Every show from May 1977 was top drawer, though, not a clinker in the bunch.
Fred the Gator
Monday - May 8th 2023 4:56AM MST
PS I got Kenny Rogers' album "Timepiece" on my jazz playlist. This is an album full of jazz standards. Willie Nelson also has an album of jazz standards called Stardust. I like Kenny Rogers' voice better but both are (imho) listenable. I'm a sucker for jazz standards.
Of course the masterpiece in that vein (if anyone cares) is Tony Bennett and Bill Evans. Bennett's voice is a remnant but (again imho) incredibly evocative.
Of course the masterpiece in that vein (if anyone cares) is Tony Bennett and Bill Evans. Bennett's voice is a remnant but (again imho) incredibly evocative.
Keep Calm and Carry On
Sunday - May 7th 2023 4:06PM MST
PS Talk of a Grand Old Politburo move regarding 9 members of the Beijing Brandon crime family on Wednesday.
Brace yourself for distract-o-rama abominations.
Even Bolshevik enemedia is speaking of Joe Slovo's 36% approval which is historic. (honk!)
Just found a Gab feed claiming that a comrade of Mao came up with trans in order to keep the chairman in power for one more decade by using psychological warfare.
There is also the Weimar-Frankfurt School theory and comrade Lin may have studied them.
An Indiana republican came out at a presser as a lesbian woman of color with a purple wig on for the ultimate Jedi troll job and says...you cannot question me and if you do you are discriminating against me as this is how I identify and these are the rules, there are calls for him to resign. Brilliant!
He is married with children.
Going old school with music Dire Straits, Steely Dan, CCR.
Playlist country would be Hank W/JR/III, Jerry Reed, Hawkshaw Hawkins, Waylon/Shooter Jennings, Rebel Son, Johnny Cash, also all old school except for three.
Hawkshaw Hawkins, Cowboy Copas, Patsy Cline, have the country version of Buddy Holly as they all shuffled off this mortal coil in a plane crash while out on tour.
Brace yourself for distract-o-rama abominations.
Even Bolshevik enemedia is speaking of Joe Slovo's 36% approval which is historic. (honk!)
Just found a Gab feed claiming that a comrade of Mao came up with trans in order to keep the chairman in power for one more decade by using psychological warfare.
There is also the Weimar-Frankfurt School theory and comrade Lin may have studied them.
An Indiana republican came out at a presser as a lesbian woman of color with a purple wig on for the ultimate Jedi troll job and says...you cannot question me and if you do you are discriminating against me as this is how I identify and these are the rules, there are calls for him to resign. Brilliant!
He is married with children.
Going old school with music Dire Straits, Steely Dan, CCR.
Playlist country would be Hank W/JR/III, Jerry Reed, Hawkshaw Hawkins, Waylon/Shooter Jennings, Rebel Son, Johnny Cash, also all old school except for three.
Hawkshaw Hawkins, Cowboy Copas, Patsy Cline, have the country version of Buddy Holly as they all shuffled off this mortal coil in a plane crash while out on tour.
The Alarmist
Sunday - May 7th 2023 12:47PM MST
PS
Are you thinking of “The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald” ? It sank in Lake Superior, and was the subject of one of Lightfoot’s bigger hits.
Are you thinking of “The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald” ? It sank in Lake Superior, and was the subject of one of Lightfoot’s bigger hits.
Moderator
Sunday - May 7th 2023 12:41PM MST
PS: In that 2nd example reference I remember he was talking about the Andrea Doria - sunk in the Atlantic with most rescued I believe.
Now Jimmy Buffett and his Parrotheads would be off all the Seinfeld writers and actors radars screens, I think. Old timey Floridays, the islands, and that life seem so far removed from NYC life ...
Now Jimmy Buffett and his Parrotheads would be off all the Seinfeld writers and actors radars screens, I think. Old timey Floridays, the islands, and that life seem so far removed from NYC life ...
Hail
Sunday - May 7th 2023 12:00PM MST
PS
- Seinfeld on G Lightfoot vs. K Rogers -
I think Seinfeld mentioned both Kenny Rogers and Gordon Lightfoot.
The Kenny Rogers chicken of which was one of Kramer's obsessions until something when wrong and he tried to organize a boycott; the Gordon Lightfoot reference was via the shipwreck he made famous with his song (or was it another shipwreck), when George got muscled out of a plum apartment by a survivor of that shipwreck and then tried to do library research proving the shipwreck was not as bad as it was claimed.
- Seinfeld on G Lightfoot vs. K Rogers -
I think Seinfeld mentioned both Kenny Rogers and Gordon Lightfoot.
The Kenny Rogers chicken of which was one of Kramer's obsessions until something when wrong and he tried to organize a boycott; the Gordon Lightfoot reference was via the shipwreck he made famous with his song (or was it another shipwreck), when George got muscled out of a plum apartment by a survivor of that shipwreck and then tried to do library research proving the shipwreck was not as bad as it was claimed.
Adam Smith
Sunday - May 7th 2023 11:27AM MST
PS: I too think Gordon Lightfoot is a better songwriter...
https://lightfootrestaurant.com/
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https://lightfootrestaurant.com/
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Moderator
Sunday - May 7th 2023 12:23AM MST
PS: I'd vote for Gordy over Kenny as better songwriter, Mr. Hail, and I'm not even Canadian. Jimmy Buffett v Gordon Lightfoot would be a tough call for me...
Kenny Rogers' Roasters
Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville (been to the one(?) in Key West)
Gordon Lightfoot's Canadian Bacon?
Kenny Rogers' Roasters
Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville (been to the one(?) in Key West)
Gordon Lightfoot's Canadian Bacon?
The Alarmist
Saturday - May 6th 2023 8:23PM MST
PS
But who ever heard of Gordon Lightfoot Roast Chicken?
Then there’s that young whippersnapper billionaire restaurateur, Jimmy Buffet.
But who ever heard of Gordon Lightfoot Roast Chicken?
Then there’s that young whippersnapper billionaire restaurateur, Jimmy Buffet.
Hail
Saturday - May 6th 2023 7:56PM MST
PS
Kenny Rogers
...vs...
Gordon Lightfoot
Both b.1938
Kenny Rogers
...vs...
Gordon Lightfoot
Both b.1938